Topic: World War Two
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc started this discussion 1 month ago #136,832
I wonder why Germany and Japan lost? 🤔Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,451,840
Oh well. Guess we’ll never figure this one out.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,842
The allies had:
- the largest country
- the most populous country
- the wealthiest country
The axis had:
- aryan genetics
- honorary aryan genetics
I just, don’t understand why they lost. It’s truly a mystery.
- the largest country
- the most populous country
- the wealthiest country
The axis had:
- aryan genetics
- honorary aryan genetics
I just, don’t understand why they lost. It’s truly a mystery.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,844
All those strong Japanese men with honorary blue eyes and honorary bold hair. How could they lose?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 22 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,847
I just wanna know how with all their race science, the Germans concluded that the Japanese are in fact white people but Slavs are not white people. And also Islam. Hitler liked Islam, what was that all about? So you want to exterminate all brown people but you think Islam is cool?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 41 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,850
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 8 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,886
@previous (C)
What percentage of the US population lives in cities again? Last I checked the senate gives overrepresentation to people who live on corn fields. We should probably abolish the senate. It’s not democratic, land can’t vote.
What percentage of the US population lives in cities again? Last I checked the senate gives overrepresentation to people who live on corn fields. We should probably abolish the senate. It’s not democratic, land can’t vote.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 month ago, 57 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,887
I don’t actually think we should abolish the senate for the record. It’s just fun to say.
"ABOLISH THE SENATE!"
It sounds so extreme.
"ABOLISH THE SENATE!"
It sounds so extreme.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,889
Even Julius Caesar didn’t abolish the senate. Given what happened next, maybe he should have. It’s so sad he died during March madness. He never got to see who won.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 51 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,890
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,891
@previous (E)
Tbh, I don’t think the nuclear bombs had much to do with Japan losing. Japan is an island and we sunk their entire navy and the Soviet Union also was about to invade Japanese Manchuria, so they were kinda screwed. There’s not a whole lot Japan could really do.
Tbh, I don’t think the nuclear bombs had much to do with Japan losing. Japan is an island and we sunk their entire navy and the Soviet Union also was about to invade Japanese Manchuria, so they were kinda screwed. There’s not a whole lot Japan could really do.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,892
Japan did have more success in Asia, but Asia was relatively underdeveloped back then, in part because of European colonialism. So Japan was able to conquer Asia because since Japan was a relatively isolated island that realized the threat of industrialized European powers, they got their act together (in industry not morality), and since they were more industrialized than other Asian countries, they were able to conquer a lot of territory despite having a pretty tiny population (by Asian standards). But the main issues were, Japan just never had enough oil so it a vicious cycle where they had to expand their empire to get more oil to support their large empire that was barely able to sustain itself because it didn’t have enough oil. Once they actually faced another industrial power with a higher population and/or reliable access to oil, they were never going to win. Logistically it would be impossible for them to win unless the other side just gave up, which is probably what they were thinking with Pearl Harbor, which was really stupid.
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Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 32 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,893
@1,451,891 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
The H Bomb was the cause of a RAPID Ending - Just one week after, Japan said Mia Culpa.
Germany spent so much money and man power trying to clear out Jews and Homo's. One of the many reasons they lost the war.
The H Bomb was the cause of a RAPID Ending - Just one week after, Japan said Mia Culpa.
Germany spent so much money and man power trying to clear out Jews and Homo's. One of the many reasons they lost the war.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,894
@previous (E)
I mean, Japan is an island. They can’t sustain their own population with the resources they have on the island. We never actually had to invade Japan. It would take longer but it would have happened either way eventually.
I mean, Japan is an island. They can’t sustain their own population with the resources they have on the island. We never actually had to invade Japan. It would take longer but it would have happened either way eventually.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 month ago, 29 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,895
And by longer I mean, it might end in 1946 instead of 1945.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,897
Of course the Japanese had the whole macho "never surrender" thing going on, but like they surrendered, so that was obviously a bluff because if it wasn’t a bluff then how come they surrendered? If they were all actually willing to die then the nuclear bomb thing shouldn’t have changed their consideration, but it did, because it was a bluff.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,899
@1,451,894 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> I mean, Japan is an island. They can’t sustain their own population with the resources they have on the island. We never actually had to invade Japan. It would take longer but it would have happened either way eventually.
"Japan has a highly developed market-oriented economy. It is known as an East Asian model for its public investment into strategic sectors."
"Japan is the fourth-largest economy in the world by nominal GDP and the fifth-largest by purchasing power parity It constituted 3.7% of the world's economy on a nominal basis in 2024."
Seems to me they are totally able to thrive. Super Successful. As a Fan of the food and I mean not just Sushi - In any case they recovered with USA help and have become totally successful.
> I mean, Japan is an island. They can’t sustain their own population with the resources they have on the island. We never actually had to invade Japan. It would take longer but it would have happened either way eventually.
"Japan has a highly developed market-oriented economy. It is known as an East Asian model for its public investment into strategic sectors."
"Japan is the fourth-largest economy in the world by nominal GDP and the fifth-largest by purchasing power parity It constituted 3.7% of the world's economy on a nominal basis in 2024."
Seems to me they are totally able to thrive. Super Successful. As a Fan of the food and I mean not just Sushi - In any case they recovered with USA help and have become totally successful.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,901
@previous (E)I think I have two opposing thoughts about the Japanese economy. On the one hand, it is a developed country and is more successful than average, definitely. On the other hand, it does seem like most of that success is due to past growth not current growth, and while they’re still ahead of other parts of the world, they seem like they’re falling behind. Right now the world economy is dominated by China and the United States. There was a period where smaller countries like Japan or Britain could dominate the world earlier on in history after the Industrial Revolution when only a few countries were industrialized. But it seems like that trend has been changing and more countries are beginning to catch up, so in the future, population size might matter more. I wouldn’t be surprised if later in this century, India, China, and the United States are the three largest economies and Japan slips down further in the ranking.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,903
I think the main thing that’s going to be a problem for Japan in the future is demographics. Japanese culture seems to be rather conservative when it comes to acceptance of foreigners, but Japan (also China) will be facing a demographic collapse in the coming decades, which will have major implications for the Japanese standard of living since it will make dependency ratios worse. There will be more retired Japanese relative to working Japanese people, which will cause strain on the economy. The United States gets around this problem through having high immigration. There’s a right wing populist movement in the United States that’s arguably worse than Japan maybe in some ways. But the US still has more immigration than Japan. Without immigration, the United States would suffer the same fate as Japan.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,905
Or I guess the alternative would be if there is some technological development that allows for a second Industrial Revolution. However, while some people think AI could be that, you can’t really see recent technological developments in GDP data, it just doesn’t show up. It all blends together into one smooth exponential. So the internet or smartphones haven’t actually caused the same type of divergence that happened when the steam engine was invented where relatively poor countries in Europe rapidly became much more productive and took over vast amounts of land.Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 58 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,906
Like for instance, you can’t look at that graph and see any bump when the internet was invented or when the iPhone came out.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,908
Also if you look at US GDP growth recently, it’s a bit ironic when you listen to AI people talk about how it will cause rapid GDP growth, when it’s not doing that right now.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 9 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,909
Coordination (lack of), logistics shortfalls, materiel shortfalls, land wars in Asia with the aforementioned issues, strategic and tactical blunders.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,910
@1,451,908 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> Also if you look at US GDP growth recently, it’s a bit ironic when you listen to AI people talk about how it will cause rapid GDP growth, when it’s not doing that right now.
AI as a tool is just getting started. First step is layoffs because NOW AI can do real work. For instance in my work I have to on occasions write code in C++ and I suck at that. AI now takes my code and corrects it.
> Also if you look at US GDP growth recently, it’s a bit ironic when you listen to AI people talk about how it will cause rapid GDP growth, when it’s not doing that right now.
AI as a tool is just getting started. First step is layoffs because NOW AI can do real work. For instance in my work I have to on occasions write code in C++ and I suck at that. AI now takes my code and corrects it.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 41 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,913
@previous (E)I have theories about why AI isn’t contributing to the GDP. I will say that I don’t know the reason why for sure, but I do know that the data doesn’t seem to support the idea that AI has caused any acceleration in the GDP growth of the United States.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,914
As a matter of fact, it seems like the US GDP growth is actually slowing down over time. Again, I have theories for why this is the case, but what I know is that it is the case, not necessarily why it’s the case.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,915
It might be the case that LLMs are less revolutionary than the media has led everyone to believe and that this is actually a massive capital misallocation fueled by circular financing and debt. Or I could be wrong.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,916
It’s just weird how the rhetoric and the actual data don’t match.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,451,940
@1,451,890 (E)
> > Japan lost? 🤔
It wasn’t even the nukes. The final nail was the utter route of the weakened Kwantung Army in Manchuria by a Soviet onslaught. And fear of a Soviet invasion of Japan. I’m sure we’d have a North Korea situation had that happened, given FDR’s trust of the Russians.
> > Japan lost? 🤔
It wasn’t even the nukes. The final nail was the utter route of the weakened Kwantung Army in Manchuria by a Soviet onslaught. And fear of a Soviet invasion of Japan. I’m sure we’d have a North Korea situation had that happened, given FDR’s trust of the Russians.