Topic: Population decline + stock market = ????
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 weeks ago #136,742
If fewer people are buying, because there's fewer people, then the price declines I think, so there's no growth. Therefore we should send portfolio relief funds for millions in developing countries, we get the money back, and the portfolio donated... Is locked for withdrawals the next 10-20 years. Does that make sense? It's like indentured investors except they don't actually have to do anything except accept the free money.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #1,450,893
send stuff
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no .onion links pl0x
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,898
Are we all passing the same dollar back and forth again?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,899
Africa will be rich because it has a high population! Also all of Africa is one country and their governments are good!
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,900
@1,450,898 (C)
> Are we all passing the same dollar back and forth again?
The very same dollar can help buy a Maserati or toothpaste. Even help rent a vagina for a few minutes.
> Are we all passing the same dollar back and forth again?
The very same dollar can help buy a Maserati or toothpaste. Even help rent a vagina for a few minutes.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 14 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,901
@1,450,899 (D)
If in 2100, 40% of people in the world live in Africa, thinking this won’t have any implications is rather naive.
If in 2100, 40% of people in the world live in Africa, thinking this won’t have any implications is rather naive.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,902
@OP
Use Japan as an example. Right wing weirdos like to pretend Japan is perfect because of their immigration policy, but just google Japan’s birth rate, their immigration levels, and then their debt to GDP ratio and then compare that to third world African countries. People yap about Africa being in a debt trap but the debt to GDP ratio in the west will be much higher if right wing ethnonationalists react to the changing demographics by reducing immigration.
Use Japan as an example. Right wing weirdos like to pretend Japan is perfect because of their immigration policy, but just google Japan’s birth rate, their immigration levels, and then their debt to GDP ratio and then compare that to third world African countries. People yap about Africa being in a debt trap but the debt to GDP ratio in the west will be much higher if right wing ethnonationalists react to the changing demographics by reducing immigration.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 54 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,903
(I said third world African countries instead of naming a particular one, because it doesn’t matter which one you pick.)
Anonymous D replied with this 2 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,904
@1,450,901 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
But Africa is not a united country, it is lots of countries with their own interests and rivalries. To talk about Africa like it's one country is very, very naive.
But Africa is not a united country, it is lots of countries with their own interests and rivalries. To talk about Africa like it's one country is very, very naive.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,905
@previous (D)
When did I ever say Africa is a country? I’m aware that it’s a continent. The only countries I compare Africa to are India and China because Africa, India, and China currently have almost the same population size.
When did I ever say Africa is a country? I’m aware that it’s a continent. The only countries I compare Africa to are India and China because Africa, India, and China currently have almost the same population size.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,906
Like for example, people talk about Europe’s trade with China or people talk about the west collectively. Individual European countries are rather tiny but combined they have more economic power. "The west" isn’t a country either and "the west" is made up of countries that have various rivalries with each other. If anything it’s more vaguely defined than Africa is. Japan and South Korea are "pro western" but it would be dumb to call them western countries because they’re obviously Asian.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,907
Of course, talking about Europe makes sense because there’s a union of European countries. There’s also an African union, but member states are more independent and don’t use the same currency, so people talk about it less, but it does exist though.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,908
@1,450,905 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> When did I ever say Africa is a country? I’m aware that it’s a continent. The only countries I compare Africa to are India and China because Africa, India, and China currently have almost the same population size.
I also point this out, because while Africa, India, and China have almost the same population size now, they have very different levels of wealth. But their level of wealth is correlated with their birth rates. China has the lowest, India is in the middle, and then Africa has very high birth rates. China is the wealthiest, India is in the middle, and Africa is the poorest. But when you look backwards in history at when for example, China used to be incredibly poor when they had birth rates similar to what Africa has today. It’s not that two of the three regions can’t develop, they’re on different timelines.
> When did I ever say Africa is a country? I’m aware that it’s a continent. The only countries I compare Africa to are India and China because Africa, India, and China currently have almost the same population size.
I also point this out, because while Africa, India, and China have almost the same population size now, they have very different levels of wealth. But their level of wealth is correlated with their birth rates. China has the lowest, India is in the middle, and then Africa has very high birth rates. China is the wealthiest, India is in the middle, and Africa is the poorest. But when you look backwards in history at when for example, China used to be incredibly poor when they had birth rates similar to what Africa has today. It’s not that two of the three regions can’t develop, they’re on different timelines.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,909
And the reason I’m optimistic about Africa is they have high birth rates now when the continent already has a population slightly larger than India and China do, 1.5 billion as opposed to 1.4 billion, meaning when they stop growing they’re projected to be similar in population to Asia. If Africa can develop with a significantly larger population than what China or India have as they’ve been developing / have developed (it doesn’t happen at one moment in time so I’m not sure what tense to use there), even if Africa doesn’t achieve the same GDP per capita as China, their total economic output could still rival that of China in the future. It’s not impossible, and a world like that would obviously be a better world.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc sextuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,910
And I’ve already explained that Africa and China have a similar population size. In 1980 at the beginning of the Chinese economic miracle, you can look up what their GDP was. Compare that to the GDP of Africa today. Even though people are negative about it, they’re actually starting from a better place than China did.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc septuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,911
Then when you compare Africa to India, and you compare the birth rate in Africa to that in India and you keep in mind that Africa and India have about the same population size, Africa isn’t actually that far behind India in terms of nominal GDP, but their birth rates are still much higher than India. But nobody factors that in for some reason. They should be further behind India than they are. There are reasons to be optimistic.
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc octuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,914
Of course Africa is a continent so it has a lot more land than India so that probably has something to do with it. They really shouldn’t be close to India in terms of GDP yet if their birth rate is twice as high as India.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc nonuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,916
And I’m not saying that Africa will become the richest continent in GDP per capita, I’m just saying, China’s GDP per capita coincidentally is about the same as the world average GDP per capita. If by the end of the century, Africa grows as projected and their GDP simply reaches the world average, not extremely wealthy on a per capital level, just global average GDP per capita, that would be enough to make African countries as a collective much more powerful than they are today.
boof joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 45 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,919
since money is imaginary and only works with sufficient agreement that it works, rather than operating on economic assumptions that do not have to be adhered to, we could imagine and implement other ways of pretending that help us sustain the well being of people.
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Earn that moneyMeta joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 28 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,932
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Meta double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,450,954
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