Topic: Marxist materialism and dialectical history

Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #136,500

Recently it was brought to my attention that communists think all of history is a struggle between the wealthy and the poor and the poor will win in the end and all of history is predetermined.

What do you think about that idea? Do you believe in another form of dialectical history? Maybe that democracy is the end of history?

Personally, I think feudalism is the end of history. I think we’re going back to feudal England and we’re gonna have lords and peasants. Tradition is inevitable and the only constant is that things don’t change which is why conservatism will win. It is one of the laws of physics that given time, things never tend towards chaos and tend to organize themselves back to their most original form.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,449,033

Tbh the whole thing sounds goofy.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,449,046

Some of the socialist activists of the 1900s pointed out the education differential meant the Communist parties would be staffed by university grads, themselves bourgeoisie.

When has any peasant uprising succeeded? The lords and poor hired hands are paid to crush them. Look at early 20th century strikebreaker militias.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,449,063

@previous (B)
Weird, I would think educated politicians would be a good thing.

It’s weird ours yap about DEI. Do you really think Pete Hegseth got into Princeton for his brains?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,449,065

@previous (A)
It's irrelevant, because even if he got in through legacy or money, we still shouldn't have a society where positions are given out based on race.

Eliminating legacy/donor admits would be a step forward. Making everything race based is a step back.

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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 34 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,449,068

@previous (C)
Yeah, that’s the issue though. I think Pete Hegseth got his position based on race, that’s why I don’t like him.

Anonymous D double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 40 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,449,070

Or, one of the reasons I don’t like him. There’s also the fact he’s a drunk running the world’s largest military and that’s fucked.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 14 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,449,214

There are born slaves who cannot abide by the definition of freedom once it has released them. Only some may continue on a path of unrestrictive mentality. There is simply no way around numerous peasant revolts or the coming atrophied culture we're all being fed inevitably being so incredibly inorganic it just won't make sense.

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