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Topic: Who were the reactionaries in Marxist ideology?
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 hours ago#136,413
The reactionaries were the liberals and the fascists. Liberals become fascist because they do not proactively construct a society, they have a hands-off attitude, let people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others.
But when certain factions society make themselves a problem (marxists emphasize the capital class), the liberal can only react. They never banned that faction from operating or existing in the first place, so they need to react to threats as they happen.
When the threats become too threatening, a liberal reacts by militarizing and targetting that specific group.
The reason liberals do not create a society where dangerous elements are solved before they begin is that they operate reactively not proactively. That's also why it always decays into fascism. They change when they are forced to, and theydon't have time to plan a new society from the ground up, so they keep much of it the same and just put more resources into police or military to counter the threat.
A revolutionary vanguard party tries to be proactive and change society fundamentally. There are other non-marxist proactive political movements.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 29 minutes ago, 31 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,448,141
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
So is rape and murder and shitting in holes. If society can overcome those, it should be able to talk about ideas that they disagree with.
Schools could teach logic, we can shame those that dismiss the results of the process when they don't get what they want.
It's not that different from any other problem civilization has overcome. People are trained, resources are allocated, and consequences are set.