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Anonymous A started this discussion 2 weeks ago#136,084
Why some people hate blacks. To me the low income belligerent blacks in public housing are what comes to mind. They're the equivalent of white trailer trash.
Is it fair to demonize a race because a few bad actors?
Personally it doesn’t matter. They’re scum of the earth. Because being low income and living in public housing is not excuses to be a useless waste of human flesh and deface property or making everywhere unsafe.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 11 minutes later[^][v]#1,445,084
We can debate on we reached the current regime in the U.S and for whats it worth and for the sake of curbing the whole “I dont agree because XYZ” let me say you are right on those reasons. However I want to add that we got what we got because people got tired of blacks and Latinos from low income blue states. the broke majority that moan and bitch about everything and shit on everything then demand free everything. You also have the whites who just confused about who they want to be: are they man or woman, gay or straight, hero or villain.
Theyre a weird lot. I don’t have much to say about a race that in my eyes are just bland and devoid of substance.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,087
Really, I’m just confused how you wrote that you get why people hate blacks because some of them are poor like white people, and you can’t use your brain cells to put two and two together that it doesn’t make sense for white people to hate black people for being poor when there are white people who are poor and the reason why black people are poor is because of white people who were racist against black people. I don’t understand how you could have those bits and pieces in your brain and not be able to put them together coherently into the most obvious thing ever, and write this instead.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,088
Especially given that the modern right wing reactionary racism against blacks doesn’t actually have anything to do with black poverty. Trump’s base of support are uneducated working class whites. Middle class whites are less racist because they’re not insecure. It’s not a reaction to black poverty, it’s a reaction to Obama’s presidency. Racists don’t have a problem with black people being poor, they want black people to be poor, they have a problem with blacks being successful, and they want to stop us from being successful.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,089
The entire focus on black poverty, which does exist, isn’t really that they actually are tired of black people being poor. It’s all just an ego thing. Black people didn’t do anything wrong, black people didn’t start World War One and World War Two, we didn’t wipe out the Native Americans, we didn’t kill six million Jews, we didn’t drop two atomic bombs on Japan, we didn’t do any of that stuff, that was all white people. But white people want to shift the blame from their ancestors onto black people today because blaming their ancestors is painful to them, it doesn’t matter whether it’s true or false, they feel hurt emotionally by the truth, so they want to shift the blame onto black people. They want black people to take responsibility for what was done to black people by white people and blame us and say maybe we’re poor because we’re worse than white people or maybe we’re less successful because we’re just stupid or something. But the problem is, I’ve seen the types of things these people believe, white racists are not intelligent people. I can so clearly see that I’m so far superior to these people, that it offends me that they want me to blame myself for things they claim other black people did that didn’t even happen half the time. I just don’t believe in their narrative at all, and I don’t think black people have anything to apologize for.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 51 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,090
The issue at the core of everything happening in the US right now is that the average American has NOTHING to live for. No hopes, no dreams, and no soul because it's all been systemically destroyed. Americans are an utterly broken people and the collapse of this empire is near. The question now is what will replace it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 49 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,091
You wouldnt understand it. You’re not seeing what im seeing. I can tell you that very intelligent blacks who contribute to society and thats true but the same truth exists in that there are poor blacks and whites use being poor as excuse to destroy, rob, and just muck up the very place they live in.
Also white people dont hate blacks for being poor. They hate blacks for adopting a poor mentality because instead of making the best of a bad situation. You have a majority that make the minority are decent and sane humans look bad. You can call my takes brain dead if that floats your boat and I defend your right to have that opinion and as a matter of fact it should make you angry because you have blacks who actively contribute to the stereotype. The same way how whites dont want to be vilified even though members of their community make it hard for us to not see them racist bigots. It works all the same.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,092
@previous (A)
I don’t see anything wrong with my mentality. I act in my own self interest above the interests of people who don’t care about me. I don’t want anti black racists to like me, if you do what your enemies want, you might as well hang yourself, because at least that will lead to the same end result faster. If white racists aren’t happy with what I have to say, then I’m on the right path. Your enemies shouldn’t like you. If your enemies smile at you, you’re making a mistake.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,093
@1,445,091 (A) > poor blacks and whites use being poor as excuse to destroy, rob, and just muck up the very place they live in
Turns out when social mobility no longer exists people get angry and fuck shit up. How could we have possibly seen that coming? Oh what's that? The thousands of years of documented history we know of? Okay but who even learns about history LMAO
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 56 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,094
Another thing i’m american and no im not white.
Like I said being low income/poor is no excuse to act rachet, ghetto or belligerent.
It’s much easier for you to say “can’t relate” than to write paragraphs and think pieces on this matter. I respect your thoughts but come on bro. Be for real you know some niggas just can not be saved. They’ll think it’s corny.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,095
@1,445,093 (C)
People can’t just stop being poor. The fewer resources you have, the fewer options you have, and the smarter you have to be to overcome that. But the issue is, knowledge is a resource, and people who are poor usually don’t receive the same education as wealthy people so it traps them in the cycle of poverty.
My only issue is, when life isn’t going your way, you can make a choice, punch up or punch down. Punching down is pathetic, but too many people choose that. For example, homeless people aren’t preventing me from being successful, they’re not competing with me in any type of way. It makes no sense for me to hate them.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,098
@1,445,095 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
They're just punching who they can. They can't touch rich people because rich people don't live near them lol they don't see them they don't interact with them so it's much easier to blame the Asian guy who runs the local gas station and always gives you shit when your card declines. Rich people go out of their way to keep poors out of their communities for this reason as well as others
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,099
@previous (C)
Well it actually is possible. Rich people are a minority of the population. They don’t physically have any control over us, it’s more psychological. Everyone individually thinks they’re powerless, and the fact we believe that makes it so. It’s like how money inherently has no objective value since it’s backed by nothing, it only has value because if everybody believes that it does, then it does.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,445,102
That’s one of the things that’s really important about freedom of expression. For some reason people have reduced it down to the right to say offensive things, which is stupid and immature and was completely not the point. The right to assembly and the right to organize generally are important for the functioning of a democratic society. People can advocate for their interests as a collective more effectively than they can as individuals.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,103
@1,445,099 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
It doesn't matter if it's possible because if poor Americans could work together, the rich elite would have been overthrown years ago. The American attitude regarding prosperity is to blame those who are unsuccessful and praise those who are successful. If you win, it's because you were just born with it and if you lose it's because you're a bum and you've always been a bum. So who am I going to attack when I'm angry? The guy who loses all the time obviously because he's a bum and he's always been a bum and you know what? God literally hates him
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,105
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Americans let it happen because TV, microwave dinners, and porn were just too good to pass up. What's that? Rights? Yeah yeah just take them who cares I'm gooning while eating frozen pizza!
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,107
When the US was founded, we literally had slavery, and not all white men could vote, only landowning white men could vote. Arguably, it’s actually improved over time, but if you think about it, we’re sort of like an arm of the British Empire that broke off. The British Empire (as empires are) was hierarchical and class based. So it is possible for things to improve, the issue is that people with more money can buy influence in that, yeah, we can all speak, we can’t all afford a billboard advertisement in Times Square on New Year’s Eve if you know what I mean. In the past, it was the paper, then the radio, then the TV. Now it’s algorithms and the internet.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,108
Of course, social media companies are owned by the richest people on the face of the planet, so it shouldn’t be surprising racism is promoted more than blaming billionaires. The sad thing is most people aren’t very smart, so they don’t question this, they just buy into it.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,109
@1,445,107 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Money isn't the issue. Americans themselves refuse to change their worldviews. I've spoken with countless blue collar Americans and they spout pre-arranged talking points like machines. These people are indoctrinated to hell and back. What you're talking about is just changing the indoctrination channel instead of teaching them to think critically
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 57 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,110
You’ve gotta think about it from the perspective of Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg, it’s like, okay, I can control what a billion people see every day, and I know these people have angst about the fact I’m richer than God and they’re struggling to make ends meet, am I going to recommend them content that blames me or Somalian immigrants? It’s like, duh…
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,111
@1,445,109 (C)
Yeah. It feels bad honestly. Like I want to believe the whole libertarian argument that the good arguments win out over the bad arguments because people are rational, but if you contrast that with experience in the real world, the idea is laughably silly.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,112
@1,445,110 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
They're only willing to accept those ideas because they subconsciously view Somalians as less than them in the first place. You'd be surprised at some of the views that are commonplace among lower class Americans
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,113
@previous (C)
It’s really sad, because ironically, they’re sort of in the same positions as Somalians, they just don’t realize it. Everything is relative. If you look at the world on a global scale, yeah they’re rich compared to Somalians. But if you think about everything in a relative way, the bottom 50% of Americans have something like 2.5% of the wealth if I remember correctly from the last time I googled it. That’s not too dissimilar to the imbalance between population distribution and wealth distribution on planet earth as a whole. The white Americans who hate Somalians are the lower class from the wealthiest society on Earth, and the Somalians are just average people from one of the least wealthy societies. But they’re still both getting the short end of the stick just on different scales, national vs international.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,115
If you think about it, the US is 4% of the world population, but has 25% of the global economy. In 1960 it was closer to 40% because of WWII, which is why there’s this weird thing where black Americans remember the past as being much worse because the past was racist but white Americans want to go back to "the good old days" and say "make America great again" because relatively, we did used to be even more wealthy relative to the rest of the world. I think that could be why there’s this focus on being cruel to people from third world countries because it used to be that the US was so infinitely powerful compared to those parts of the world and people don’t like the idea that in the future that might change. I mean, for instance, in the 60s, China was poorer than most African countries, now it’s the second largest economy. That’s part of why biological determinism is so appealing, because people want to tell themselves that can’t happen again, even if it might.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,116
The top 1% in the US has 30% of the wealth (I just googled it), so the US is technically a bit more unequal than the world is, but it’s not incredibly dissimilar. 1% having 30% vs 4% having 25%.
Not sure if this is some sockpuppeting attempt but regardless I just wanna make this clear: I’am racist for sure 100%. towards to a certain group blacks, whites, Asians and Latinos. You can sleep comfortably knowing that it’s true.
However im not wrong. You can disagree all you want but I’m not wrong. Feel free to send links and more paragraphs but it really doesn’t undo the facts here and especially when unfortunately you look at the data.
Maybe it’s easier to digest if I had start I understand why people hate poor people but we know that won’t do because to a certain degree blacks surpass white trailer garbage in terms of rachetness and sumbaggery.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 1 week ago, 57 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,119
I mean, even at the height of the British Empire, the largest empire in history only had 25% of the global economy. So right now the United States is as powerful economically as the British Empire was at its height even though the world economy has been growing faster than our economy for decades and we shrank from our peak at 40%. The dominance of the United States was a really incredible thing that happened in history due to an extreme set of circumstances, and in the grand scheme of things, that probably was unlikely to continue forever in the first place. 4% of people can’t have 40% of the economy and maintain that until the end of time. That was only possible because India and Africa were colonized, China got invaded by Japan, then Japan got bombed, Germany got bombed, etc. the rest of the world was in ruins and that’s why that was possible.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,123
@1,445,117 (A) > However im not wrong. You can disagree all you want but I’m not wrong. Feel free to send links and more paragraphs but it really doesn’t undo the facts here and especially when unfortunately you look at the data.
The glowniggers defeated this arguement when George Lincoln Rockwell used it by assassination.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,125
@1,445,103 (C)
You praise the successful person who managed to work their way out of poverty. Not every rich, successful person is some evil tyrant that robbed the rich. Just like how you guys are making the case that not all poor people are lazy and asking for handouts or whatever.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,127
@previous (A)
My point was those distinctions aren't made (at least not by the average American). You seem completely unaware of Prosperity Gospel. Are you really American?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 1 week ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,129
@1,445,127 (C)
I think that’s one of the reasons why Trump was so popular in Nigeria. Ironically, regardless of what whites say, Africa was colonized by whites, so in some ways their cultures are similar. Nigeria has a lot of Protestants, so there were some very pro Trump Nigerians ironically.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,130
@1,445,127 (C)
You know we can search things up right? Like on the fly even with ai. I could tell you im american and I know what that is and you’ll either believe me or tell me it’s not real as a test lol
You guys are not as smart as you think believe it or not.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,131
@previous (A)
Anon I couldn't give less of a shit if you're American or pretending to be. I'm pointing out the obvious flaws in your posts for fun and you have no real rebuttals. Not like anything posted on this site matters.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,132
Idk why for some reason right wing people on the internet think Africa is filled with Muslims but if you look into it, that’s not actually true. North Africa is mostly Muslim but then in sub Saharan Africa, there are actually a lot of Christians, so there are some attitudes that are weirdly similar to the right in the United States despite the fact that the right in the US doesn’t like them and think they’re all Muslims.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,134
@1,445,131 (C)
Why would I waste time with rebuttals to a bunch of faceless anon that by tomorrow will be forgotten? I wrote what I wrote. It is what it is. Feel free to keep writing nonsense think pieces.
In the end what I wrote initially was not supposed to matter neither you nor bloody would’ve even entertain it lol
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,139
Anyways I don’t care. low income hood niggas are scum. Especially black teens that act like chimps. White teens copy and in turn like fucking low IQs.
Poor breeds poor. Rich breeds rich. Thats how it is. You can debate for fun or you can choose better in life and quit writing essays for free and maybe create a blog and post all those wonderful counterpoints on mainstream media instead minichan because you know it’s easier supposedly easier to debate here than to debate at a high level.
Tl;dr stop smurfing and go play comp in real life.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,445,143
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Actually not really. I think the high/low IQ is some weird newspeak. Im just throwing it out there for fun. IQ really means very little to me.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,445,145
@1,445,142 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Actually you know you remind me of those fat black armchair philosophers. The ones that create 5 hour race deconstruction video essays. Like an F.D signifier type. Probably have locs and a constant no nonsense expression. Either that or you’re the overly opinionated black nerd with a fro and glasses with the ability to invade white spaces and to weaponize as much as possible against your “oppressors”. Ive seen your lot. I used to be a part of that but after it just got boring. Honestly glad I left that behind.
> Why some people hate blacks. To me the low income belligerent blacks in public housing are what comes to mind. They're the equivalent of white trailer trash. > Is it fair to demonize a race because a few bad actors? > > Personally it doesn’t matter. They’re scum of the earth. Because being low income and living in public housing is not excuses to be a useless waste of human flesh and deface property or making everywhere unsafe.
White trailer trash omf- do you mean hollywood??? wTFFF
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 14 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,445,293
@1,445,164 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Hey bloody I have a question for you and it’s not shade or anything. Im just curious where you stand on this.
What do you think about black inner city youths that partake in gang culture? Like what would you propose in terms of outreach or some kind of solution?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,400
@1,445,293 (G)
Tbh I’ve never really thought about it. I’ve never met any gang members in my life so I’m not an expert on that at all, I’m the wrong person to ask about that.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,401
I guess the closest I’ve ever been to that sorta thing is I’ve been to Chicago, the south side of Chicago has more gangs and stuff. So with some people Chicago has a reputation, but at least as an outsider, visiting that city, one thing I did notice that really stood out to me is wealth disparity. For example, Chicago looks like this:
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,404
I think the thing is, not all poor kids join gangs, but no rich kids join gangs. So I think if you want to keep kids out of gangs, addressing the underlying issue which is the United States is an unequal country has to be a part of it. If you come from a family where you know you can go to college and have a good career and you have all these opportunities, you’re not going to commit crime because you’ll be afraid of losing that. If you don’t have any of those opportunities, I’d imagine circumstances matter. Of course, personal responsibility, blah blah blah, that’s not a societal level solution.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc sextuple-posted this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,405
Although, that’s the ironic thing about the inner city stereotype, the inner inner city in Chicago is actually really nice. It’s the surrounding area that’s not as nice.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc octuple-posted this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,407
The center of the city though… honestly, I think the fear mongering is kinda unwarranted. It’s really just the inequality, some parts of the city look impoverished, but the center of the city though, it’s just really really not like that.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc nonuple-posted this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,408
I’m trying to get the point across by posting pictures but, you really can’t tell without going there, the wealth disparity is insane. It’s like this giant gleaming modern clean city with trees and glass and steel skyscrapers, and then you drive a bit more and you see homeless people begging and poor looking neighborhoods, but it’s all so close together. It’s really hard to describe, but without being an expert I have to say that’s the reason.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc decuple-posted this 1 week ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,409
Although, even though the neighborhoods on the south side are poor, it’s the opposite on the north side, especially if you drive around in Evanston, there are a lot of nice houses there.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc undecuple-posted this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,445,410
Also I think poverty and wealth disparity is the main cause, but guns don’t make it better, if people were just poor but there weren’t a bunch of guns on the south side, that would help reduce the murder rate. Although, Chicago actually has been implementing AI for gun control. Like they have security cameras that use AI to automatically identify guns and on the highways entering and leaving the city it scans your license plate so they can charge you without you having to stop driving.