Topic: The pope excommunicated SSPX
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #135,992
I told y’all but y’all didn’t listen!
https://youtu.be/9pEmmmbpoDs
https://youtu.be/9pEmmmbpoDs
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #1,444,209
The Catholic Church is the church Jesus founded upon Peter, Peter was the first pope, all popes are the successors of Peter, if you don’t accept the pope as the leader of the church, then you aren’t Catholic. Very straightforward, very clear, very obvious. End result was very predictable.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 19 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,210
Trump’s response: *does literally nothing*
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,211
And now it begins. Will trump take out pope leo and revive the holy roman empire or will pope leo keep styling on trump?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,212
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 36 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,213
He might post about it on Truth Social or something, but I think he’s distracted with some crypto thing he’s getting criticized for so he might miss it entirely.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,214
Trump isn’t even Catholic I think he just thinks the position of pope sounds cool or something.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,215
@1,444,212 (A)
It doesn't really matter if trump is religious I'd say. A lot of the stuff he's done has been suggested to him by people around him. He's essentially a puppet. We'll see though
It doesn't really matter if trump is religious I'd say. A lot of the stuff he's done has been suggested to him by people around him. He's essentially a puppet. We'll see though
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,217
@previous (B)
Yeah, but then again, Melania is Catholic, JD Vance is Catholic, and most of the Supreme Court is Catholic, and a lot of Trump’s wins in terms of power have been coming from the Supreme Court since congress is split. I really doubt he’s going to do anything, especially since the Vatican is in Europe. It’s unfortunate, but if you bomb a brown country that’s poor, people don’t care. But he’s not going to do anything in Italy. Especially since it’s part of NATO, an attack on one is considered an attack on all, he’s not going to go to war with every European country at the same time, he’s not that stupid.
Yeah, but then again, Melania is Catholic, JD Vance is Catholic, and most of the Supreme Court is Catholic, and a lot of Trump’s wins in terms of power have been coming from the Supreme Court since congress is split. I really doubt he’s going to do anything, especially since the Vatican is in Europe. It’s unfortunate, but if you bomb a brown country that’s poor, people don’t care. But he’s not going to do anything in Italy. Especially since it’s part of NATO, an attack on one is considered an attack on all, he’s not going to go to war with every European country at the same time, he’s not that stupid.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,218
@previous (A)
You know you can be Catholic and strongly disagree with the pope right? That's exactly what the SSPX is
You know you can be Catholic and strongly disagree with the pope right? That's exactly what the SSPX is
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,219
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,220
To be fair, they appointed some bishops without the approval of the Vatican which is something people can be excommunicated for and they were warned before they did it and they were only excommunicated after they did it, so it was sort of their own fault.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 9 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,221
@1,444,219 (A)
Wait a minute...pope leo is that you?! You little rascal I knew you browsed minichan!
Wait a minute...pope leo is that you?! You little rascal I knew you browsed minichan!
Anonymous B double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,222
@1,444,220 (A)
Why now though? They knew they'd be excommunicated so they went into this looking for a fight and the question is why? And more specifically why at this time?
Why now though? They knew they'd be excommunicated so they went into this looking for a fight and the question is why? And more specifically why at this time?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,224
@previous (B)
> Why now though? They knew they'd be excommunicated so they went into this looking for a fight and the question is why? And more specifically why at this time?
From Reddit:
As a Catholic, I accidentally attended one of their church services a few years back with my mom when looking for a catholic service in an unfamiliar city.
These people are nuts. My mother and I have never walked out of church before in our lives but we only made it 20 minutes.
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challam
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I did the same thing in Paris and felt like it was the church before Vat II, only enhanced to some dystopian level. They had a priest patrolling the aisles, watching for misbehavior, including women not wearing a head cover of some type. I also left.
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tanloopy
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1d ago
What made you walk out?
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mr_evilweed
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1d ago
The breaking point was when the priest started talking about vaccines as demonic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1ukgsu1/rebel_catholic_group_sspx_defies_pope_consecrates/
> Why now though? They knew they'd be excommunicated so they went into this looking for a fight and the question is why? And more specifically why at this time?
From Reddit:
As a Catholic, I accidentally attended one of their church services a few years back with my mom when looking for a catholic service in an unfamiliar city.
These people are nuts. My mother and I have never walked out of church before in our lives but we only made it 20 minutes.
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challam
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1d ago
I did the same thing in Paris and felt like it was the church before Vat II, only enhanced to some dystopian level. They had a priest patrolling the aisles, watching for misbehavior, including women not wearing a head cover of some type. I also left.
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tanloopy
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1d ago
What made you walk out?
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mr_evilweed
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1d ago
The breaking point was when the priest started talking about vaccines as demonic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1ukgsu1/rebel_catholic_group_sspx_defies_pope_consecrates/
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 29 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,225
I think it’s safe to say SSPX aren’t the most rational fellows, so I’m not really too worried about all that.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,226
@1,444,224 (A)
> they're like le wacky and crazy idk lmao
Yeah I'm not buying that. If the pope and SSPX were seemingly on good terms until recently, there's no need to jeopardize that unless it's for a good reason. Something has to come from this we just don't know what
> they're like le wacky and crazy idk lmao
Yeah I'm not buying that. If the pope and SSPX were seemingly on good terms until recently, there's no need to jeopardize that unless it's for a good reason. Something has to come from this we just don't know what
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,227
@previous (B)
Not really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X
The church generally tries to resolve conflicts. They were never really on good terms, it seems like there was more of an attempt to resolve the issue and integrate them into the church, but that failed so they got kicked out.
Not really.
Tensions with the Holy See climaxed in 1988, when Lefebvre consecrated four priests as bishops — Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Alfonso de Galarreta, and Richard Williamson — without an Apostolic Mandate and against a personal warning from Pope John Paul II,[10] incurring automatic (latæ sententiæ) excommunication.[11] The SSPX disputed that any penalty had been incurred, citing a moral and theological crisis in the Church. This excommunication was lifted in 2009 at the bishops' request.[citation needed] The society's broader canonical status remained unresolved for decades, though Pope Francis extended ecclesiastical jurisdiction to SSPX-administered confessions (2017)[12] and marriages.[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X
The church generally tries to resolve conflicts. They were never really on good terms, it seems like there was more of an attempt to resolve the issue and integrate them into the church, but that failed so they got kicked out.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,228
The Catholic Church still tries to resolve the schism with Orthodoxy by reintegrating Orthodox Churches as Eastern Catholic Churches. Christianity focuses heavily on forgiveness so even thought there’s the idea that the pope has authority over the church and schism warrants excommunication, there’s always some sort of attempt or desire to unify Christianity - but only if it’s under Rome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 27 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,229
@1,444,227 (A)
You're only proving my point. It's been over 30 years. They could have done it again plenty of times but they waited until now. Something is up
You're only proving my point. It's been over 30 years. They could have done it again plenty of times but they waited until now. Something is up
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,230
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,231
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,232
@previous (B)
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@1,444,229 (B)
> You're only proving my point. It's been over 30 years. They could have done it again plenty of times but they waited until now. Something is up
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@1,444,229 (B)
> You're only proving my point. It's been over 30 years. They could have done it again plenty of times but they waited until now. Something is up
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,233
@previous (A)
You're misunderstanding. I'm saying it's been over 30 years since the last big conflict between SSPX and the Vatican. Why wouldn't they start a fight for 30 years and then say "fuck it let's start a fight again"? I know your answer is "lol they're just wacky goofy silly guys lmao" but I think that's bullshit
You're misunderstanding. I'm saying it's been over 30 years since the last big conflict between SSPX and the Vatican. Why wouldn't they start a fight for 30 years and then say "fuck it let's start a fight again"? I know your answer is "lol they're just wacky goofy silly guys lmao" but I think that's bullshit
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,234
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 52 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,236
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 29 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,237
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,238
@previous (A)
Looks like we're all just wacky goofy silly guys in the eyes of the powerful elite...
and that's real
Looks like we're all just wacky goofy silly guys in the eyes of the powerful elite...
and that's real
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,239
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,240
"The elite" aren’t especially spectacular in terms of skill or intelligence or anything. They’re just average people in extraordinary circumstances. If you walk up to a random guy on the street it’s 50/50 he’s smarter than the president.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,241
@1,444,239 (A)
The ones we see are. I think the guys controlling things from the shadows are a lot more serious.
The ones we see are. I think the guys controlling things from the shadows are a lot more serious.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 second later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,242
Tbh I don’t really like monarchy but the reason why I like the pope anyway is because it’s an elected monarchy and I feel like that’s more honest. It’s like, you’re not born special.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,243
@1,444,241 (B)
My only question is: do you believe that because you see evidence for it, or do you believe it because it’s more comforting to believe that the world is secretly run by competent people even if you think they have bad intentions?
My only question is: do you believe that because you see evidence for it, or do you believe it because it’s more comforting to believe that the world is secretly run by competent people even if you think they have bad intentions?
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,244
@previous (A)
Competency is subjective but if we're talking about people who can and do consistently move toward their goals, I would personally call those people competent
Competency is subjective but if we're talking about people who can and do consistently move toward their goals, I would personally call those people competent
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,247
@previous (B)
I half agree. I’d say in general if two people have the same circumstances and one outperforms the other, then yes, that’s the case. In the case of super powerful and wealthy people, I would disagree. It will seem like wealthy and powerful people are always winning even when they made decisions that seem stupid not because they’re actually smart but because they simply have more resources and we live in a society where popularity and money are currency. If a politician wins an election, it’s not because they’re smart, it’s because people like them. If a billionaire’s net worth increases, it’s not because they’re smart, it’s because investors think they’ll make a profit. In terms of their competence as individuals, behind the facade, they’re far less intelligent than many people think.
I half agree. I’d say in general if two people have the same circumstances and one outperforms the other, then yes, that’s the case. In the case of super powerful and wealthy people, I would disagree. It will seem like wealthy and powerful people are always winning even when they made decisions that seem stupid not because they’re actually smart but because they simply have more resources and we live in a society where popularity and money are currency. If a politician wins an election, it’s not because they’re smart, it’s because people like them. If a billionaire’s net worth increases, it’s not because they’re smart, it’s because investors think they’ll make a profit. In terms of their competence as individuals, behind the facade, they’re far less intelligent than many people think.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 30 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,248
Well anyway the guy that leads the Heritage Foundation (the guys behind project 2025) is also Catholic haha who would have guessed. I'm telling you there's something here with this whole Catholicism meme
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 36 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,249
@previous (B)
It’s one of the world’s largest religions, it’s not really a conspiracy that there are a lot of Catholics in positions of power in western countries, it’s an old organization and it has a tradition of being scholarly and it’s huge so that all lends itself to being overrepresented in certain places (like the Supreme Court for example).
It’s one of the world’s largest religions, it’s not really a conspiracy that there are a lot of Catholics in positions of power in western countries, it’s an old organization and it has a tradition of being scholarly and it’s huge so that all lends itself to being overrepresented in certain places (like the Supreme Court for example).
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,265
@1,444,209 (A)
It's not clear how Leo has any real authority as Pope when Vance killed the last pope and had an American installed as leader with the CIAs cardinal assets.
It's not clear how Leo has any real authority as Pope when Vance killed the last pope and had an American installed as leader with the CIAs cardinal assets.
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 54 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,276
Real talk, who fuckin cares?
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Anonymous G replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,281
@previous (MBL)
exactly. the only people that care what the pope thinks are not sentient, so cannot even grasp catholism.
aethiopia delenda est
exactly. the only people that care what the pope thinks are not sentient, so cannot even grasp catholism.
aethiopia delenda est
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MBL replied with this 3 weeks ago, 59 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,282
Anonymous G replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,283
@previous (MBL)im sure if you keep screeching like a howler monkey it will eventually be true, just go do it over there.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,318
Given the nature of the Vatican Bank, the enormity of the CSA scandals, and the lack of accountability, mixed with the Church positioning people to be politicians and Supreme Court justices who take orders from the Pope, who gives a shit. The top clergy run around dressed like transvestites with yarmulkes. You can talk to God whenever you like and you can do so directly.
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Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,328
@1,444,249 (D)
It's not really the presence of Catholicism itself. It's the conversion to Catholicism of many important political figures in America coinciding with a big schism within the church
It's not really the presence of Catholicism itself. It's the conversion to Catholicism of many important political figures in America coinciding with a big schism within the church
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It’s "big" in the same way an ant is big compared to a dust mite.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 32 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,341
In this analogy, the dust mite is a person, the ant is SSPX, and the church is a city.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,343
SSPX has 733 priests, the Catholic Church in the United States has 37,000 priests, and globally there are 407,000 Catholic priests. I actually hadn’t heard of SSPX until it was mentioned on here (because that’s how relevant it was). Basically 0.2% of Catholic priests in the world were a part of SSPX (rounding up), so the church is 99.8% intact after this "big" schism.
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 weeks ago, 18 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,353
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
The Catholic church was couped. You worship the American deep state.
The Catholic church was couped. You worship the American deep state.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,354
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@previous (B)
More like, I hadn’t heard about it because it’s tiny and it doesn’t matter because it’s tiny.
More like, I hadn’t heard about it because it’s tiny and it doesn’t matter because it’s tiny.
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Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,444,560
I did like when that German guy threw the wooden statues of Guadalupe into the Tiber.