Anonymous A started this discussion 5 hours ago#135,900
I don’t really understand the mentality of Japanese people, but the mentality of Chinese people makes a lot of sense to me. I get this idea whenever I read stuff written by Japanese people on the internet that the Japanese think they’re European instead of Asian and their only goal is to preserve the ethnic homogeneity of their island, not to compete with the United States or to be a successful and powerful nation. Chinese people on the other hand are also nationalistic, but they’re nationalistic more in the sense that they want China to be powerful and they want China to be rich and they want China to compete with the United States for the spot of most powerful country. Given that white people nuked Japan, it seems very strange to me that Japanese people identify more with whites than with Asians and discriminate against other Asians and think they’re in the in group with whites whenever xenophobic Europeans talk about foreigners. Chinese people can be racist, but I’ve never met any Chinese person who was confused that they are Chinese, not white. I feel like Japan’s self identification doesn’t make a lot of sense. It’s like, they’re biased against the ethnicities that are the most similar to them, while also admiring the culture they lost a war to, it seems like that’s a losing proposition. How can you ever really win with that mentality?
Idk, maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve been trying to wrap my head around it, and the only logical explanation I can come up with is maybe other Asians don’t like the Japanese because of their war crimes in World War Two, but Europeans are less aware of that, so the Japanese noticed Asians don’t like them, but Europeans say more positive things, so they assume they’re more like Europeans than they are like the Chinese or Koreans.
A focus on cultural preservation above economic power, above technological progress, and above military power seems like a mistake though. It’s technically not a law of physics, but a law of statistics, that all things tend toward chaos, although people say it as if it’s a law of physics because it might as well be one. Preservation forever is obviously impossible and if they focus on nothing else, the result is they’re just going to slowly die and not progress much at anything.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 hours ago, 25 minutes later[^][v]#1,443,241
Even if you look at history, there’s this ahistorical idea on the right that diversity didn’t exist in the past, but the most powerful empires in history were never homogenous. The British Empire wasn’t homogenous, English people are Anglo-Saxon, Anglo means "England" but is Saxony is in Germany. English is technically a Germanic language but with French influences. Then if you look at Ireland (it used to be controlled by the British I know it’s not British), Scotland, and Wales, every other country in the British isles other than England is Celtic. Celtic languages are unrelated to English. Irish doesn’t even have the same word order as English, it has the same word order as Arabic. Rome wasn’t homogenous, you can tell just by looking at a map it couldn’t have been. England and North Africa were both the same country back then. Even China, if you look into it, there were multiple groups there, the Manchus, the Han, etc. and there were multiple languages so it wasn’t really homogenous in the sense that Hitler wanted Nazi Germany to be homogenous. Even if you go as far back as Egypt, the unification of upper and lower Egypt was important for establishing Egypt as a powerful civilization in the ancient world. You can’t conquer people and be homogenous. It’s doesn’t add up, that’s why all empires that strived to be homogenous lost existential wars.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 5 hours ago, 14 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,443,242
It’s also ironic, English culture is a mixture of all the cultures that conquered England in the past, and then they conquered the world. But now they want to pretend there was no foreign influence in the past and they were just their own little homogenous island and now they’re just victims. Which is completely false, that’s not what actually happened.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 4 hours ago, 9 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,443,243
Idk I just think it’s weird the Japanese identity with the Anglo Saxon struggle against diversity when they were nuked by an Anglo Saxon culture (something that no ethnicity of people did to any other ethnicity of people something that uniquely was done to just the Japanese only and nobody else ever), when Algo Saxon homogeneity is just an idea with no historical basis. It’s an oxymoron. Anglo Saxon homogeneity is impossible because the name itself already tells you that they’re mixed.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 4 hours ago, 9 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,443,244
Take away the Germanic influence, take away the French influence, take away the Roman influence, what you’re left with is just a bunch of Celts. But English identify is defined by not being Celtic, that’s what makes them different from the Irish.