Topic: Colonialism is bad
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 month ago #135,640
Look at Singapore!
Mr. Bloody Sunday joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #1,441,342
So I should look at India, a country of 1.4 billion people, and I should look at Singapore, a city state, and conclude that colonialism isn’t bad because the tiny authoritarian city state is wealthy and the giant democracy is poor? Have you ever thought it might be easier to manage a city than an actual country?
Mr. Bloody Sunday double-posted this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,343
I’m just saying, I’ve noticed people who want to deny colonialism was bad always bring up Hong Kong and Singapore, which are cities. And they don’t bring up China, India, and the continent of Africa, which are about 17% of humanity each and they’re all poorer than western countries on a per-capita basis and they’re we’re all colonized. Literally Africa, India, and China are half of humanity, but people have the audacity to bring up two cities as a counter example as if that’s not obviously stupid.
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Mr. Bloody Sunday triple-posted this 1 month ago, 8 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,344
Most of Europe’s colonization of Africa took place in the late 1800s, they had cameras back then. They took pictures of what they were doing to Africans. You can’t tell me they were civilizing Africa. There’s a reason why recently the UN voted to consider the trans Atlantic slave trade to be officially considered as a crime against humanity.Mr. Bloody Sunday quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,345
Or even the stupid "we were kings" thing white supremacists say to mock black people. You can’t tell me that the British didn’t burn down royal palaces in Africa and steal cultural artifacts when they took pictures of the royal palaces they burned down with the artifacts they were stealing.Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,346
Mr. Bloody Sunday replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,348
They literally burned down cities, cut peoples hands off, enslaved people, and didn’t allow blacks to be educated in their own native languages, then had the audacity to say they civilized Africa and we had no history or architecture or technology or written language when literally none of that is true!
Mr. Bloody Sunday double-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,349
They even go to the point where they only selectively show the most primitive cultures and the most primitive art from Africa in order to distort reality. How come when you go to a western museum you always see stuff like this (nothing wrong with it):Mr. Bloody Sunday triple-posted this 1 month ago, 18 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,350
But then they don’t show anything like this:Mr. Bloody Sunday quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,351
"Oh the stupid Stone Age people next to monkeys who had spears and were hunter gatherers" how come if you go to a western museum they’ll have European swords or maybe a katana, but they won’t display any African swords. Africans already had governments and laws and written language and the ability to make iron tools before Europeans colonized it, Europeans destroyed Africa. People want to deny it or say Africans should be responsible for their poverty or whatever, but it’s true. There was civilization in Africa before Europeans got there and it wasn’t primitive.Mr. Bloody Sunday quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,353
But oh noooo, the Europeans have to tell themselves that Africans have to live in poverty because Africans are just stupid instead of I don’t know, read a fucking history book.
Mammy joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,354
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,355
Or even "oh you people lived in mud huts because you’re stupid" ignoring that baked mud functions similarly to concrete and their are mud structures in Africa that look like thisAnonymous D double-posted this 1 month ago, 23 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,356
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,357
Or even using straw as a material isn’t inherently bad. There are European buildings that had thatched roofs.Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,368
@1,441,348 (Mr. Bloody Sunday)
> They literally burned down cities, cut peoples hands off, enslaved people, and didn’t allow blacks to be educated in their own native languages, then had the audacity to say they civilized Africa and we had no history or architecture or technology or written language when literally none of that is true!
Did you ever read about how Rhodesia suppressed archaeological studies in favor of a hack study that said the ruins and stone structures found were built by Asians?
> They literally burned down cities, cut peoples hands off, enslaved people, and didn’t allow blacks to be educated in their own native languages, then had the audacity to say they civilized Africa and we had no history or architecture or technology or written language when literally none of that is true!
Did you ever read about how Rhodesia suppressed archaeological studies in favor of a hack study that said the ruins and stone structures found were built by Asians?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,369
Mr. Bloody Sunday joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,400
@previous (G)
Because I’m bored on the internet and racists never turn down an opportunity to talk to a black guy. It’s like that saying in economics, people respond to incentives. Until someone talks to me for cheaper than a racist, this is the most economical way to get attention online.
Because I’m bored on the internet and racists never turn down an opportunity to talk to a black guy. It’s like that saying in economics, people respond to incentives. Until someone talks to me for cheaper than a racist, this is the most economical way to get attention online.
Mr. Bloody Sunday double-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,401
@1,441,368 (F)
Technically, there were Asians in Africa before Europeans got there. Not in Zimbabwe though. Madagascar, definitely. Don’t think Zimbabwe. Honestly I’m probably going to look into that because I find these sorts of wild white supremacist conspiracy theories to be entertaining.
Technically, there were Asians in Africa before Europeans got there. Not in Zimbabwe though. Madagascar, definitely. Don’t think Zimbabwe. Honestly I’m probably going to look into that because I find these sorts of wild white supremacist conspiracy theories to be entertaining.
Mr. Bloody Sunday triple-posted this 1 month ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,404
Tbh it would be kinda dumb though to use that to claim Madagascar isn’t African though, because the people with Asian ancestry in Madagascar have been living there for so long and have mixed with Africans from Africa for so long that they’re not really not African. They technically are genetically Black even if they’re also Asian. They’re not really "Indonesian" even if they technically are genetically, they’re just indigenous to Madagascar. I googled it and apparently they’re 50% African genetically.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 23 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,619
@1,441,401 (Mr. Bloody Sunday)
> Not in Zimbabwe though.
Archaeological evidence says there definitely were Arabs there around the time Great Zimbabwe was flourishing (about 1200AD).
> Not in Zimbabwe though.
Archaeological evidence says there definitely were Arabs there around the time Great Zimbabwe was flourishing (about 1200AD).
Mr. Bloody Sunday joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,621
@previous (I)
Well if you consider the Arabs Asian, which I mean technically the Arabian peninsula is a part of Asia then Africa has loads of Asians by that definition.
Well if you consider the Arabs Asian, which I mean technically the Arabian peninsula is a part of Asia then Africa has loads of Asians by that definition.
Mr. Bloody Sunday double-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,622
Although, Arabs got to Arabia from Africa, and then they went back to Africa, so it’s like… idk
Mr. Bloody Sunday triple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,623
It’s sort of ironic because some people say they colonized North Africa, humans came from Africa not Arabia though, so there’s something kinda funny about that. It would be like if Americans colonized Europe or something.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,653
@1,441,401 (Mr. Bloody Sunday)
> Technically, there were Asians in Africa before Europeans got there. Not in Zimbabwe though. Madagascar, definitely. Don’t think Zimbabwe. Honestly I’m probably going to look into that because I find these sorts of wild white supremacist conspiracy theories to be entertaining.
Look up Gertrude Caron-Thompson and David Randall-MacIver. An earlier 1904 dickhead deliberately destroyed stratified layers and timeline evidence at sites. I was wrong about Asia — the myth was that Phoenicians or the Queen of Sheba built the structures.
I’m well familiar with the common racist tropes that there was no construction below North Africa. Racists also ignore the Ghanaian Empire, the Axum Empire, and the Ajuran Sultunate, and the salt routes. Or they meme that Mansa Musa was the “OG rapper and pimp.”
It’s hard to find good historical works. There are a few on these empires or they’re academic. I was initially excited about a new book that rolls up a dozen African empires. Unfortunately it’s not engagingly written. It is rotten with obscurantist “critical theory” blather and telling rather than showing. Which is a fucking shame because Axum (or Aksum) was a major Roman trading partner. It held Yemen and the southern Arabian peninsula for centuries until Islamic invasions cut the empire off from the rest of the Mediterranean.
> Technically, there were Asians in Africa before Europeans got there. Not in Zimbabwe though. Madagascar, definitely. Don’t think Zimbabwe. Honestly I’m probably going to look into that because I find these sorts of wild white supremacist conspiracy theories to be entertaining.
Look up Gertrude Caron-Thompson and David Randall-MacIver. An earlier 1904 dickhead deliberately destroyed stratified layers and timeline evidence at sites. I was wrong about Asia — the myth was that Phoenicians or the Queen of Sheba built the structures.
I’m well familiar with the common racist tropes that there was no construction below North Africa. Racists also ignore the Ghanaian Empire, the Axum Empire, and the Ajuran Sultunate, and the salt routes. Or they meme that Mansa Musa was the “OG rapper and pimp.”
It’s hard to find good historical works. There are a few on these empires or they’re academic. I was initially excited about a new book that rolls up a dozen African empires. Unfortunately it’s not engagingly written. It is rotten with obscurantist “critical theory” blather and telling rather than showing. Which is a fucking shame because Axum (or Aksum) was a major Roman trading partner. It held Yemen and the southern Arabian peninsula for centuries until Islamic invasions cut the empire off from the rest of the Mediterranean.