Topic: Western women are obsessed with controlling male sexuality.
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 month ago #135,554
They want an open market for them, a closed one for men. Shaming “passport bros,” shaming guys who cheat even in sexless marriages, feminists who oppose porn, sex robots, and prostitution. In other words, they hate the idea of broad options for heterosexual males.
It’s nice to see a broader awakening. I don’t subscribe to incel or extreme red pill bullshit. I do know that men have a duty to protect themselves from being turned into ATMs or becoming indentured through marriage to support an elusive and unobtainable goal of “happy wife, happy life.”
It’s nice to see a broader awakening. I don’t subscribe to incel or extreme red pill bullshit. I do know that men have a duty to protect themselves from being turned into ATMs or becoming indentured through marriage to support an elusive and unobtainable goal of “happy wife, happy life.”
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #1,440,308
Human sexuality is like human locomotion i.e an evolutionary hack job that's only minimally viable.
The difference between old-school redpill/PUA stuff and incel ideology is that back in the 2000s we put extreme emphasis on not resenting them for being wired completely different.
The difference between old-school redpill/PUA stuff and incel ideology is that back in the 2000s we put extreme emphasis on not resenting them for being wired completely different.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,310
Isn’t prostitution illegal in every state in the United States except Nevada where it’s legal everywhere except Las Vegas which is the only place where people live? I don’t think being opposed to prostitution is a radical position it’s illegal in most countries outside of Europe because Europe is weird for whatever reason.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade double-posted this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,311
I think what happens in American culture at least, is a lot of people have librarian beliefs in theory, because we’re taught in the public education system that freedom for the sake of freedom is always good. But then as soon as it’s inconvenient for us in the slightest way we make up an excuse. For example, if you ask someone if people should be allowed to pay for sex they’ll probably say something along the lines of "the government shouldn’t tell us what to do" and then if you ask them if brothels should be legalized they’ll say no because they don’t want it in their town, and then that’s the end of that.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,312
Plus women don't like bisexual men because it means they have other options.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,313
Tbh I think the only reason why porn is even legal in the US is because the Supreme Court decided it was protected by free speech, so nobody’s ever been able to vote on it.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade double-posted this 1 month ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,314
Which I mean, aside from whether it should be legal or not, the argument that porn is a form of speech sounds kinda dumb.
Flesh Eating Amoeba joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 0 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,315
The best way to put them in their place is to use your penis as a weapon on them.
boof joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,319
@1,440,314 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
I presume that the freedom extends to media other than the human voice or text. It fucking should. People get arrested for works of their imagination in many countries, beyond visual documentations of people being sexy.
I presume that the freedom extends to media other than the human voice or text. It fucking should. People get arrested for works of their imagination in many countries, beyond visual documentations of people being sexy.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,320
Mr. Bloody Lemonade double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,321
I just don’t see how something that doesn’t communicate anything can be seen as a form of speech when it’s obviously not speech.
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,324
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
well you are hung up on the word speech. other constitutions more obviously indicate that it involves communications regardless of media. US Supreme Court I presume has ruled towards that idea of expression in general shouldn't be the government's god damn business.
well you are hung up on the word speech. other constitutions more obviously indicate that it involves communications regardless of media. US Supreme Court I presume has ruled towards that idea of expression in general shouldn't be the government's god damn business.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,325
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,326
> I don’t subscribe to incel or extreme red pill bullshit.
Every time I see someone say something redpilled they have this disclaimer, like, what exactly do you think "red pill" is?
Bonus when people describe MGTOW as some sort of movement of misogynists harassing women when it's the male equivalent of 4B.
Every time I see someone say something redpilled they have this disclaimer, like, what exactly do you think "red pill" is?
Bonus when people describe MGTOW as some sort of movement of misogynists harassing women when it's the male equivalent of 4B.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade replied with this 1 month ago, 43 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,327
I’m not even really saying that porn should be illegal, I’m just saying the argument that pornography is as important as the right to protest and that it’s the same thing doesn’t make any sense.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,328
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
Now let's see Jupiter's take on banning speech on publicly-funded universities and murdering debatebros.
Now let's see Jupiter's take on banning speech on publicly-funded universities and murdering debatebros.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade replied with this 1 month ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,329
Mr. Bloody Lemonade double-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,330
Tbh I haven’t seen Jupiter post in a while.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,331
Mr. Bloody Lemonade replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,333
@previous (J)
I’m Mr. Bloody Lemonade. I thought everyone could see usernames. Is there some setting where you can’t see?
I’m Mr. Bloody Lemonade. I thought everyone could see usernames. Is there some setting where you can’t see?
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,334
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
That's my username usually you are an imposter. Who the hell are you really?
That's my username usually you are an imposter. Who the hell are you really?
Mr. Bloody Sunday replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,336
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,353
@1,440,310 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
> Isn’t prostitution illegal in every state in the United States except Nevada where it’s legal everywhere except Las Vegas which is the only place where people live? I don’t think being opposed to prostitution is a radical position it’s illegal in most countries outside of Europe because Europe is weird for whatever reason.
It’s not enforced unless you do street trade. I’m not interested but have a couple of older friends who dabble in escorts.
> Isn’t prostitution illegal in every state in the United States except Nevada where it’s legal everywhere except Las Vegas which is the only place where people live? I don’t think being opposed to prostitution is a radical position it’s illegal in most countries outside of Europe because Europe is weird for whatever reason.
It’s not enforced unless you do street trade. I’m not interested but have a couple of older friends who dabble in escorts.
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 5 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,377
@1,440,327 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)
sure, but it doesn't have to be the same thing to satisfy the general idea that people can be free to do as irreverent and stupid stuff as they desire, as much as free to do important stuff. What is worthy versus what is not is a judgement call, and the civil libertarian idea is that no one should fear the fist of the law when reporting news, making gross drawings, or whatever, and that the judgement call can be made by the citizen himself instead of some asshole who can put him in prison.
sure, but it doesn't have to be the same thing to satisfy the general idea that people can be free to do as irreverent and stupid stuff as they desire, as much as free to do important stuff. What is worthy versus what is not is a judgement call, and the civil libertarian idea is that no one should fear the fist of the law when reporting news, making gross drawings, or whatever, and that the judgement call can be made by the citizen himself instead of some asshole who can put him in prison.
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,380
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,385
well I put forth the phrase civil libertarian, which is a different beast compared to the political category libertarian
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,389
@1,440,326 (J)
well that would explain why dating in the U.S is basically a shit show now.
Back in my day pussy wasn't really difficult to acquire. you could get away with dating 2-3 women at a time with minimum effort simply by being straight forward.
MGTOW tbh just sounds like cope + skill issue which is basically the primary issue of incels. Like no matter what it originally stood for it was always rooted in bunch of losers who couldn't get laid, couldn't handle the loss and decided to create a "movement" as to restore their personal power. Its their version of "you cant fire me because I quit!".
well that would explain why dating in the U.S is basically a shit show now.
Back in my day pussy wasn't really difficult to acquire. you could get away with dating 2-3 women at a time with minimum effort simply by being straight forward.
MGTOW tbh just sounds like cope + skill issue which is basically the primary issue of incels. Like no matter what it originally stood for it was always rooted in bunch of losers who couldn't get laid, couldn't handle the loss and decided to create a "movement" as to restore their personal power. Its their version of "you cant fire me because I quit!".
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Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 17 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,404
@previous (M)
Right on brother, those guys wouldn't want to be losers! They should just take on a retired whore and wreck their finances and mental health to get their dick wet. Then they wouldn't be losers anymore.
Right on brother, those guys wouldn't want to be losers! They should just take on a retired whore and wreck their finances and mental health to get their dick wet. Then they wouldn't be losers anymore.
Anonymous M replied with this 1 month ago, 10 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,408
@previous (J)
they're losers because they bitch and moan when faced with rejection and challenge. You can get a "retired whore" and not wreck your money/mental health thats actually possible.
when I had bullies I fought them even if I lost, I didnt go the school the next day and shot up the building. Whenever I got rejected by some girl I liked and was out of my league I broke the script, shot my shot, failed and kept it moving.
they're losers because they bitch and moan when faced with rejection and challenge. You can get a "retired whore" and not wreck your money/mental health thats actually possible.
when I had bullies I fought them even if I lost, I didnt go the school the next day and shot up the building. Whenever I got rejected by some girl I liked and was out of my league I broke the script, shot my shot, failed and kept it moving.
Anonymous M double-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,410
all that is to say redpill/MGTOW is not some misunderstood phenomenon. They're just a bunch of bums who fucked up the game for everyone else because of skill issue and a mental diff.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 30 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,418
@1,440,408 (M)
> they're losers because they bitch and moan when faced with rejection and challenge.
Bitching and moaning = discussing their own interests and experience in private spaces.
How do they stop bitching and moaning? By keeping quiet and not talking about the reality of dating dynamics.
> You can get a "retired whore" and not wreck your money/mental health thats actually possible.
A free bag of trash!
> when I had bullies I fought them even if I lost, I didnt go the school the next day and shot up the building.
School shooters are bad.
Was this another strawman?
> they're losers because they bitch and moan when faced with rejection and challenge.
Bitching and moaning = discussing their own interests and experience in private spaces.
How do they stop bitching and moaning? By keeping quiet and not talking about the reality of dating dynamics.
> You can get a "retired whore" and not wreck your money/mental health thats actually possible.
A free bag of trash!
> when I had bullies I fought them even if I lost, I didnt go the school the next day and shot up the building.
School shooters are bad.
Was this another strawman?
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 12 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,472
I find the lack of talk of needing love and feeling lonely odd. The whole focus is on screwing? That's like how a Freudian id-creature would think. Or in more modern terms, some kind of psychopathy, or the talk of a would-be rapist.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 44 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,477
@previous (boof)
Which side is "slut shaming"/promoting chastity? Which side calls lonely people incels (as if the issue were about sex).
Usually I hear men saying they don't want to deal with modern (read promiscuous) women and the response is always "you can't get sex" or "you must be gay".
It's the feminists saying marriage is oppression, and pushing for meaningless sex that doesn't result in offspring or a LTR.
I've see men say dating is cooked, and then it's these people who are overly politically liberal who will say "have you tried going to bars?" or "if you can't get sex you're a bad person" etc. They ignore the actual thing said (lack of intimacy/partner) and reduce everything to hedonistic sex.
Where I live all the women are hyperpromiscuous and crazy. It took me a long time to find one that wasn't, and we broke it off because she had so many other options that she stopped taking it seriously. I stopped trying to talk about this IRL because even people that I know to be relatively good faith and empathetic will just act like I said I was looking for sex, which ironically is probably the easiest thing to get these days.
Which side is "slut shaming"/promoting chastity? Which side calls lonely people incels (as if the issue were about sex).
Usually I hear men saying they don't want to deal with modern (read promiscuous) women and the response is always "you can't get sex" or "you must be gay".
It's the feminists saying marriage is oppression, and pushing for meaningless sex that doesn't result in offspring or a LTR.
I've see men say dating is cooked, and then it's these people who are overly politically liberal who will say "have you tried going to bars?" or "if you can't get sex you're a bad person" etc. They ignore the actual thing said (lack of intimacy/partner) and reduce everything to hedonistic sex.
Where I live all the women are hyperpromiscuous and crazy. It took me a long time to find one that wasn't, and we broke it off because she had so many other options that she stopped taking it seriously. I stopped trying to talk about this IRL because even people that I know to be relatively good faith and empathetic will just act like I said I was looking for sex, which ironically is probably the easiest thing to get these days.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,528
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,558
@1,440,477 (J)
> Which side is "slut shaming"/promoting chastity? Which side calls lonely people incels (as if the issue were about sex).
I don't know what is this "slut shaming" thing supposed to mean. It makes sense to mean claiming that some girl is a slut when she's not, and that's obviously wrong. But if it means it is wrong to call out gross slutty behavioar, I can't get behind that bullshit.
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> Usually I hear men saying they don't want to deal with modern (read promiscuous) women and the response is always "you can't get sex" or "you must be gay".
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> It's the feminists saying marriage is oppression, and pushing for meaningless sex that doesn't result in offspring or a LTR.
Well some of the famous writers I suppose. But ordinary people that want rights for all can call themselves feminists, and have.
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> I've see men say dating is cooked, and then it's these people who are overly politically liberal who will say "have you tried going to bars?" or "if you can't get sex you're a bad person" etc. They ignore the actual thing said (lack of intimacy/partner) and reduce everything to hedonistic sex.
Terrible!
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> Where I live all the women are hyperpromiscuous and crazy. It took me a long time to find one that wasn't, and we broke it off because she had so many other options that she stopped taking it seriously. I stopped trying to talk about this IRL because even people that I know to be relatively good faith and empathetic will just act like I said I was looking for sex, which ironically is probably the easiest thing to get these days.
Sad!
> Which side is "slut shaming"/promoting chastity? Which side calls lonely people incels (as if the issue were about sex).
I don't know what is this "slut shaming" thing supposed to mean. It makes sense to mean claiming that some girl is a slut when she's not, and that's obviously wrong. But if it means it is wrong to call out gross slutty behavioar, I can't get behind that bullshit.
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> Usually I hear men saying they don't want to deal with modern (read promiscuous) women and the response is always "you can't get sex" or "you must be gay".
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> It's the feminists saying marriage is oppression, and pushing for meaningless sex that doesn't result in offspring or a LTR.
Well some of the famous writers I suppose. But ordinary people that want rights for all can call themselves feminists, and have.
>
> I've see men say dating is cooked, and then it's these people who are overly politically liberal who will say "have you tried going to bars?" or "if you can't get sex you're a bad person" etc. They ignore the actual thing said (lack of intimacy/partner) and reduce everything to hedonistic sex.
Terrible!
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> Where I live all the women are hyperpromiscuous and crazy. It took me a long time to find one that wasn't, and we broke it off because she had so many other options that she stopped taking it seriously. I stopped trying to talk about this IRL because even people that I know to be relatively good faith and empathetic will just act like I said I was looking for sex, which ironically is probably the easiest thing to get these days.
Sad!
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,560
@previous (boof)
My buddy hooked up with a feminist, thought it was charming that she didn't act like the other girls at the club.
They slept together, and he woke up hazy with an empty sack and an icepack.
"Equal rights" is bullshit.
My buddy hooked up with a feminist, thought it was charming that she didn't act like the other girls at the club.
They slept together, and he woke up hazy with an empty sack and an icepack.
"Equal rights" is bullshit.
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,561
well doggone!
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WOMEN BAD!!
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Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 23 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,441,033
True. Men should cut their dicks and become eunuchs, women should be killed
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Hypergamous June Brides everywhere.