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Topic: Flowers in the Attic

Anonymous A started this discussion 1 month ago #135,515

We're just a really close family.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 13 minutes later[^] [v] #1,439,975

There's no evidence that incestuous breeding is inherently harmful.

It promotes recessive genes, which can be good, bad, or neutral.

This myth originated from the Catholic church, known for their widespread gay child molestation and institutional coverup, who convinced Europe incest was bad to break up clans that could challenge their power.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,978

@previous (B)
Hi, Grover!

Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,979

@previous (A)
Grover was a child molester, and like I said that's bad.

Consentual incestuous breeding between adults is fine, but Romanist propaganda has fooled people.

Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 19 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,989

FYI female chimpanzees leave their birth groups to avoid inbreeding. If you study the mating systems of various ape species, they all avoid inbreeding. It’s not something the Catholic Church made up, there’s an evolutionary reason for this, it is bad for genetic reasons to reproduce with your family members.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 25 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,996

@1,439,979 (B)
lol you are scientifically wrong

Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,042

@previous (A)

Ok then show the scientific study that contradicts me.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,044

@previous (B)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7131177/

Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,045

@previous (A)
Sample size of 29, which is low, and a quarter of them were picked for the study "because of signs or symptoms in the child."

So you linked to just the short abstract, and they disclose their selection bias. You can't guage how common genetic disorders occur if you are finding your participants based on preexisting disorders.

There's no study itself from that link, either.

This is like making a study of the lifestyles of the rich, and specifically went around looking for people in flashy cars. "Our study determined rich people are rarely inconspicuous"- yeah, no shit.

And 29 would be a small sample size even if they had selected the participants randomly from a pool of people born of incest.

Did you just search for one and share the first link without reading?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,046

@previous (B)
The Whittakers notwithstanding?

Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,047

@previous (A)
Correct, because finding one family that has genetic disorders from incest doesn't prove that incest is necessarily leading to genetic disorders.

An anecdote is not a study.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,049

@previous (B)
https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/9-319

Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,050

@1,440,047 (B)

> Correct, because finding one family that has genetic disorders from incest doesn't prove that incest is necessarily leading to genetic disorders.
>
> An anecdote is not a study.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,051

@1,440,049 (A)
Half the participants were pakis. Ethnic groups tend to have variances across metrics if you were to only look at that, so this could all be the result of cultural norms about seeing a doctor or about diet or risk factors.

I also don't see where they compare the rates to non-incest offspring, which would be the critical way of measuring this.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,052

@previous (B)
You: show me a study!

Study shown.

You: Fallacy of Special Pleading

Mr. Bloody Lemonade joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,114

@previous (A)
The concept of having to scientifically prove having sex with your parents is gross is dumb.

It’s so obvious: incest is bad and weird and you shouldn’t do it because it’s gross and bad. And that should be the end of that. Sure I mean, genetics as well, but even if there was no genetic reason… I mean come on, nobody who doesn’t have some type of mental disorder is going to want that. It feels nasty just talking about it.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,115

@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade)

> The concept of having to scientifically prove having sex with your parents is gross is dumb.
>
> It’s so obvious: incest is bad and weird and you shouldn’t do it because it’s gross and bad. And that should be the end of that. Sure I mean, genetics as well, but even if there was no genetic reason… I mean come on, nobody who doesn’t have some type of mental disorder is going to want that. It feels nasty just talking about it.

Certainly. Years ago someone was trolling about how the LGBTQ+ community was supporting rights for the Adult Consensual Incest community. He backed off when he incidentally caused an anti-gay flare up.

Mr. Bloody Lemonade replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,440,117

@previous (F)
My philosophy is if they need to put two words in the name to make it sound okay, it’s not okay.

Think about it:

The People’s Democratic Republic or Korea
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