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Minichan

Topic: Such a strange timeline

Anonymous A started this discussion 2 hours ago #135,486

a lesbian pro-Israel who will down the line have full narrative control over both CBS and eventually CNN if the paramount x WB merger happens.

Democrats fully aware of the situation in cuba and how the population is practically living in squalor and yet they rather blame the US from the comforts of their home while support to a dictatorship regime with ties to china and Russia.

Im starting to understand why they get away with a lot.

Indie the Grate™ !aeNZeP7XP2 joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #1,439,685

@OPenis
Waiter, this word salad is stale. Thanks.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 hours ago, 16 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,696

@previous (Indie the Grate™ !aeNZeP7XP2)
Ah the namefag.
Always assuming they have something worth typing.

Indie the Grate™ !aeNZeP7XP2 replied with this 2 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,697

@previous (A)
Your're the one whom published a topic beginning with three paragraphs of unintelligible autistic waffle. Thanks.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,698

@OP

Isn’t it weird how an island country the United States has blockaded for decades is poor but in China people actually have food and technology because it’s too big for the US to do it?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 hours ago, 24 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,699

Minichan

Indie the Grate™ !aeNZeP7XP2 replied with this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,700

@previous (A)
I think it is. Thanks.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 hours ago, 45 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,701

@1,439,698 (C)
You’re too stupid for this topic. Go simp and bootlick on another thread.

Anonymous C replied with this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,703

@previous (A)
Am I wrong that China looks like this?

Anonymous C double-posted this 2 hours ago, 25 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,704

And Cuba looks like this?

Anonymous C triple-posted this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,705

They both have "communist" governments. One is an island nation off the coast of a country that’s blockaded it for decades, the other is a country with 1.4 billion people that for some reason, the United States let our billionaires move our factories overseas to to build teslas and iPhones, and wow, look at that, they produce more cars than the US, Germany, and Japan combined, and they make their own smartphones now. That’s so weird how that works.

Anonymous C quadruple-posted this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,706

Now I don’t support either government, but I just feel like obvious things should be pointed out when they’re obvious and we should call people’s opinions dumb when they say dumb things.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 4 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,707

@1,439,704 (C)
Cuba does indeed look shit, congrats you seem to understand that part at least.

Where you’re severely wrong is blaming the U.S and the blockade as the sole reason.

When people take that stance. I remember these people never been to cuba, had family and friends that lived there. Those are the same people that will refuse to blame the Cuban government despite much provided online for all to see.

China looks like that because they understood from the jump that socialism/communism by itself cannot and will not function. People like you know but love arguing because its a fun way to kill time.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 hour ago, 21 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,708

Like for Christ sake, China literally has their own space station and conservative morons are like "communism always fails." I’m not saying it’s good I’m just saying, lying about reality doesn’t change reality.

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,709

@1,439,707 (A)
I never said the Cuban government is good. I’m just pointing out that your assessment of why things are the way they are is obviously wrong.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 41 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,710

@1,439,706 (C)
@1,439,706 (C)

> we should call people’s opinions dumb when they say dumb things.

Then you might wanna retract that ai slop of a response because it wasn’t as informed or smart as you think it is. We can go over the facts together if you like.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 hour ago, 54 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,711

@previous (A)
Are you one of those people that think every comment longer than three sentences is AI?

(Edited 18 seconds later.)

Indie the Grate™ !aeNZeP7XP2 replied with this 1 hour ago, 19 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,712

@1,439,707 (A)
They both look the way they do because true Communism has never been tried. Thanks.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 hour ago, 38 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,713

@previous (Indie the Grate™ !aeNZeP7XP2)
lol, I kinda respect the audacity of that

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,714

Fun fact: every single country in Africa is capitalist, there isn’t a single communist country in Africa. Guess what, Africa is poor anyway!

I’m not even arguing the opposite of "communism always fails and capitalism is always successful." Nothing is always successful. It’s indeterminate.

(Edited 44 seconds later.)

Anonymous C triple-posted this 1 hour ago, 53 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,715

Ideology =/= success

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,717

@1,439,709 (C)
Anon. You’ve made at least two maybe three statements that contradict a lot what you’ve said and beliefs.

My guess is that you just noticed cuba for the first time ever since trump brought it to your attention. A lot tiktok kiddos are in the same boat and blame trump and his blockade.

If I told you that the Cuban government sells all of the aids and resources given to them by other countries that do fall under the supposed U.S blockade and place the profits in offshore accounts and assets including the U.S. you wouldn’t believe it and will continue to regurgitate the same lies the Cuban government fed its people for years.

You literally cannot talk to me cuba. 99% of the dumpster of a site cannot speak on this matter at all.

So please return to your normal scheduled program of shitposts, and whatever shit you partake in.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,718

@previous (A)
You actually didn’t tell me any of that, you’re confusing me for somebody else. I’ve never mentioned Cuba before on this website.

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,719

I don’t even like Cuba I’m just tired of people oversimplifying everything to make everything into a black and white good vs evil narrative like they think we’re all stupid. Real life is always more complicated than that.

Anonymous C triple-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,723

And the fact that the US can make a country rich or poor isn’t even something I think is inherently a bad thing. Japan is rich because the US government gave them billions of dollars to rebuild their country after World War Two. We’re powerful enough we can decide winners and losers in the world, and I love my country and I’m glad we can do that, I just don’t see the point in pretending we don’t have control over things we obviously have control over. Cuba doesn’t have to exist, it exists because we let it exist.

Anonymous C quadruple-posted this 1 hour ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,728

And really all this bullshit about "socialism" vs "capitalism" the United States isn’t even a capitalist economy, it’s a mixed market economy with aspects of both capitalism and socialism and the American constitution doesn’t even contain the word "capitalism" anywhere even once.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,729

@1,439,723 (C)
@1,439,719 (C)

And im tired of people acting as if the U.S is solely responsible for whats going on in cuba. That we should only blame the blockade when all the blockade did is exacerbate an ongoing issue that was already being maintained by the Cuban regime as they used the blockade as excuse to continue subjugate its people.

The only fault the U.S has is that it has members in congress that support and benefit from that regime all the while they're living comfortably. From both parties mind you.

(Edited 4 minutes later.)

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,730

@1,439,728 (C)
So what are you arguing with me for?

Clearly that means that you understand that china too is a mixed economy. Only Cuba is practicing “socialism” (which is honestly debatable because thats a front in itself for the same reasons above.)

We’re more more or less in agreement.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 hour ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,733

@1,439,729 (A)
It’s possible the US does things that are less than excellent sometimes. I don’t see how that’s important. It doesn’t really matter if we’re morally right or wrong.

Anonymous D double-posted this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,734

Not saying it shouldn’t matter, but like come on dude, we genocided the Native Americans, enslaved blacks, firebombed and nuked Japan, put Japanese Americans in concentration camps, we literally had a government policy called "operation wetback" we did some stuff. Most of what we have achieved are probably ill gotten gains. If there’s a hell we’re all going, otherwise we’re coming back as dung beetles. The point of America isn’t pretending we’re always morally perfect all the time, the point of America is milking it while we still can. That’s my philosophy, just milk it.

Anonymous D triple-posted this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,735

Also I think sometimes people get into this thing where they try justifying stuff to themselves and they become progressively more crazy. I’d rather just keep my sanity and be like, "Oh well, guess we gotta do this!"

Anonymous D quadruple-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,736

You know what’s sad? I don’t even know any native Americans. I took a DNA test, almost thought I was 0.1% Native American, they updated the test, turned out I was 0.1% Chinese. How tf is that possible? No clue, but we really wiped those Native Americans out…

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 29 minutes ago, 34 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,747

@1,439,734 (D)
I’m not arguing in defense of the U.S. just to make that clear. The U.S committed lots of fucked up crimes and thats an oversimplification.

What I’m against is the bizarre narrative that it’s been the U.S gov fault Cuba’s current condition when its very government played a large role in its economic decline.

Like I understand what socialism/communism is and isn’t.
It’s a nice ideological concept but it’s rooted in a belief that humans will act in accordance to their needs.

The Cuban Government does not operate under that and if it did its definitely not like what was described in the any communism school of thought.

So while it sounds pretty on paper nobody has actually tried to run a country through that socioeconomic model and succeed because at that heart of it we’re greedy and self serving. People require incentives for their labor.

In cuba there are no incentives for laborers. The very government robs its working force of any and all opportunities to have a livable income. I understand capitalism isnt any better and again I know the U.S played a role but its role is a small one compared to whats going on in cuba.

It’s the only time where I would agree that trump should put cuba out of its misery. It’s a dying and sick dog. Be it military intervention or something else entirely because if not then come 2028 and beyond when Democrats win the seats again it’ll be back to business for cuba.

Anonymous D replied with this 28 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,748

@previous (A)
Meh, tbh I don’t think it’s our job to fix other countries. The last time it worked was Japan. Every country we’ve invaded since then has been a disaster.

Anonymous D double-posted this 24 minutes ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,749

I just don’t think it’s worth it, especially for our troops. US service members are more likely to die from suicide than combat, and then we pulled out of Afghanistan after 20 years, the Taliban took over the next day. I feel like we don’t need to do that to people again. Make it so that one generation fights, then their children fight, and then they realize it was literally for nothing. There’s no point to that.

Anonymous D triple-posted this 23 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,750

Apparently, part of the reason why they decided to make signing up for selective service automatic when boys turn 18 is because the military is having problems with recruitment and they can’t figure out why…

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 23 minutes ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,751

@1,439,748 (D)
No it’s not our job but the problem is when you have enemies that will invest in cuba in order to gain strategic advantage. Suddenly the “not my problem” becomes “oh shit..we gotta do something”.

Personally the Cuban population need and should do it themselves so that they can at least make the claim “well at least we solved our own problem.”

But they can’t because a grand portion is too weak, too malnourished, too sick and too indoctrinated to fight back.

Anonymous D replied with this 22 minutes ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,752

Plus, I mean I didn’t vote for him, but Trump did run on the promise he wouldn’t get us into more wars, and then immediately took a massive turd all over that promise and rubbed it in our faces.

Anonymous D double-posted this 21 minutes ago, 24 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,753

@1,439,751 (A)
Yeah, nobody in the US is afraid of Cuba lol

Anonymous D triple-posted this 20 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,754

We literally have over 5,000 nuclear weapons, nobody is actually a threat to us. Russia isn’t really a threat to us, they’re just a threat to our allies who don’t have nuclear weapons.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 19 minutes ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,755

@1,439,749 (D)

> I just don’t think it’s worth it, especially for our troops. US service members are more likely to die from suicide than combat, and then we pulled out of Afghanistan after 20 years, the Taliban took over the next day. I feel like we don’t need to do that to people again. Make it so that one generation fights, then their children fight, and then they realize it was literally for nothing. There’s no point to that.


Yeah trust when I tell you this that their military so vastly outclassed that it’s like nuking a building just to kill a rat. With four helis and a couple dozen on the ground, the Cuban military will just drop arms and just “ggs you got it”.

Anonymous D replied with this 18 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,756

@previous (A)
We spent 2 trillion dollars and 20 years to lose to guys in sandals living in caves. Military strength on paper doesn’t translate into victory in reality.

Anonymous D double-posted this 17 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,757

If you measured number of people killed, and you measured military strength in terms of weapons and money and aircraft carriers, Vietnam probably looked like an easy win on paper too. Wars aren’t easily won. I can’t think of any wars America got into, even wars we did win that were easy. It always costs thousands of lives and a lot of money.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 16 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,758

@1,439,753 (D)
I never said the U.S was afraid of cuba…

I don’t think you actually understand what I wrote lol

Im saying if another country comes in to assist cuba like say Russia or china for example then that could be very problematic. Not because its makes cuba a threat but it’s because you’ll have your enemies closer than your friends. Cuba by itself is no threat to anyone but given its location id say Thats a good place to invest money and resources with the intention of a U.S invasion.

Anonymous D replied with this 14 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,759

@previous (A)
We don’t really have the ability to defend against ICBMs reliably regardless of whether they’re launched from Cuba or from China.

Anonymous D double-posted this 13 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,761

Also in a war between say the US and Russia or the US and China, there will be no invasion. They’ll vaporize New York, and then we’ll vaporize Shanghai, and then they’ll vaporize LA, and then we’ll vaporize Chongqing, etc. There won’t be time to draft anybody or send aircraft carriers anywhere.

(Edited 15 seconds later.)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 12 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,762

@1,439,756 (D)
Dude you’re acting as fighting cuba is like a world war 3 but they have super soliders lol

These are Cubans. Not Asians or Arabs. They don’t want smoke. If they see the U.S military walking their streets they will legit hide. In that regard they’re weaker than the guys in sandals.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous D replied with this 10 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,763

@previous (A)
That’s what I’m saying, they’re not a threat to us because they’ll never attack us because we have nuclear weapons. Nobody on this earth believes Cuba will ever invade the US or Russia or China will invade America from Cuba. Russia and China don’t want to invade the US because that would be the end of the world.

(Edited 31 seconds later.)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 9 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,764

@previous (D)
So why not just take cuba for added assurance?

Anonymous D replied with this 9 minutes ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,765

If every single aircraft carrier was sunk and every US ally was overthrown, nobody would attack us because we can just end all life on earth if we feel like it.

Anonymous D double-posted this 8 minutes ago, 18 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,766

@1,439,764 (A)
Because that’s stupid. It would be a waste of human life for nothing of value.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 minutes ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,767

@previous (D)
PR has nothing of value either but we have it. Granted we didnt have to kill for it but nonetheless the point is the same what value does PR or the U.S. Virgin Islands?

If Cuba has little value then why the fuck are we still in Guantánamo paying to have our prison there?

Anonymous D replied with this 5 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,768

@previous (A)
Well the deal is we’re supposed to be a democracy. If we start acting like a genocidal autocracy that invades countries for the hell of it, other counties won’t trust us and we won’t have allies anymore which is where most of our power comes from.

Anonymous D double-posted this 4 minutes ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,769

We would survive. North Korea acts like that and they still exist. Don’t particularly envy them.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 minutes ago, 38 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,770

@1,439,768 (D)
Yeah well given the current circumstances- whats one more?

Anonymous D replied with this 3 minutes ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,771

@previous (A)
The Soviet Union probably thought they were so powerful they couldn’t make a fatal mistake.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,772

@previous (D)
Ok but if cuba has little to no value. why are we still in Guantánamo? Why do have presence there?

(Edited 9 seconds later.)

Anonymous D replied with this 1 minute ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,439,773

@previous (A)
Well it’s not part of the mainland United States so it’s useful because we can torture people there.
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