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Topic: Conservatives don’t know how to debate properly
Mr. Big Black Friday started this discussion 5 days ago#135,356
It’s a shame how uneducated today’s conservative youth are. They’ve been brought up as iPad kids consuming AI generated slop debates full of logical fallacies and emotionally charged rhetoric. These intellectually lazy arguments bring shame to conservatism. True conservatism is based on the tradition of western free and open debate, western thought, facts, logical reasoning, and Christianity, the foundational pillars of our western society. Many Americans have never seen a real debate between men not boys, but men who know how to have a respectful disagreement and debate without resorting to emotion. See how past generations used to be able to have respectful disagreements.
boof joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 9 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,422
you see, we should not fall for the tactic of the self-serving shithead who uses the word conservative, but really just uses the word for his purposes without living their lives to anything what could ever be described as conservative. these are simply assholes and sons of bitches, and a time-honoared label is not deserved.
Mr. Big Black Friday double-posted this 4 days ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,437
Tbh I think the concept of "western this" and "western that" is kinda silly. The world is round, so if you go far enough west, you wind up east of where you started. Which half of the earth is east and which half is west is arbitrary, most of Europe is in the eastern hemisphere anyway. I find it all kind of pretentious, because essentially what "western thought" and "western values" mean is "think like a European and not like an African or Asian because democracy is a European idea and everywhere else is just third world dictatorships." Which isn’t really true if you think about it, some of the most authoritarian governments that ever existed were in the west (cough, the Nazis), and there are democracies in Africa and Asia. Venezuela is western, South Africa isn’t western. If you care about freedom of expression, you’d be pretty hard pressed to argue Venezuela is better than South Africa. TBH I think the whole conservative obsession with "western" is really just a way to obfuscate white supremacy. Sort of like how they’ll use Japan as a whataboutism. Have you ever noticed conservatives never say, "Oh South Korea is homogenous and I don’t see anybody complaining about South Korea. South Korea has such low crime and they don’t want immigrants. I want a country like South Korea!" No, they never say that, because South Korea wasn’t allied with the Nazis.
Mr. Big Black Friday triple-posted this 4 days ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,438
And that doesn’t mean South Koreans aren’t racist or all Japanese people are racist or even that they’re more racist than Koreans or whatever. I’m just saying, they single out Japan specifically. There’s only one reason to do that. There are plenty of countries in the world that are monoracial. You know, Nigeria is almost 100% black, and Nigerians in the United States perform as well as Chinese immigrants do in higher education and a lot of them are business owners? Have you ever heard a conservative utter a peep about that? No…
(In fact there are more Nigerians in US universities than Japanese, nobody ever says anything about it.)
Mr. Big Black Friday quadruple-posted this 4 days ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,439
Then they’ll try and say that oh maybe blacks are just less successful either if they’re really racist they’ll say because of biology or if they’re more of a casual racist they might say culture, and try and say there’s something wrong with black culture. Except, most black Americans are ethnically Nigerian, they have the same DNA as Nigerians in Nigeria, why do Nigerians do well in education and black Americans don’t? The only explanation is American culture is the reason why.
Anonymous D replied with this 4 days ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,466
Why debate when your opposition doesnt have a legitimate, or even coherent, position? Its like trying to debate against a child when they get mad at you to the point of screaming and crying for cooking food for them and they dont want to eat it.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 2 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,474
@previous (D)
Like when @OP tries to change the subject or go on a tangent when you find a contradiction i his argument. Or when he just gets mad starts talking about how much he hates the other for 6 posts in a row.
Unless you are going to map put the discussion, with the main thesis and branching responses, people will just keep throwing random shit at you to avoid acknowledging their mistakes.
A lot of people don't know the basic terminology of logic, yet will claim they are logical. Ask them what reason is, or how you tell rational behavior from emotional behavior and they can't even tell you what that looks like.