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Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago#135,327
They’re all like those super preachy bible church lovers that let nothing slide and don’t allow anyone to be weird.
They make everything boring and mediocre.
Can’t believe we’re stuck with these shitty ass overly opinionated, highly uninformed and uninspiring sub species.
> They’re all like those super preachy bible church lovers that let nothing slide and don’t allow anyone to be weird. > They make everything boring and mediocre. > > Can’t believe we’re stuck with these shitty ass overly opinionated, highly uninformed and uninspiring sub species.
I know plenty who work hard. I also know quite a few who are deep in the right or left hive mind. They speak in programmed statements and have become their affiliation in lieu of personality.
Mr. Big Black Friday joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,137
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I think it’s okay to be radicalized online when you’re 8 years old and you’re having Mac vs PC debates with your friends. Adults who get radicalized off of social media politics are just weak minded. Even if you spend 24/7 online, if you have a high enough IQ it should be impossible to radicalize you because you should have the gut, "I don’t buy this" reaction whenever somebody says something dumb. But a lot of people don’t have that.
You ever wonder why people believe the Earth is flat and Qanon conspiracies and become furries or whatever?
> I think it’s okay to be radicalized online when you’re 8 years old and you’re having Mac vs PC debates with your friends. Adults who get radicalized off of social media politics are just weak minded. Even if you spend 24/7 online, if you have a high enough IQ it should be impossible to radicalize you because you should have the gut, "I don’t buy this" reaction whenever somebody says something dumb. But a lot of people don’t have that. > > You ever wonder why people believe the Earth is flat and Qanon conspiracies and become furries or whatever? > >https://youtu.be/HQD2cMVuNWk
Logic courses and critical thinking skills gave way to unstructured “creativity.” This is foolish because all knowledge requires structure and boundaries. Even art requires technique and discipline, whether learning brush strokes, proportion, or reading music.
Critical thinking skills aren’t hard to learn. It seems as if you have a pervasive semi-literacy mixed with information overload. The weak mind chooses instant gratification, emotion, entertainment, and bias fortification. It doesn’t question whether something is real or part of an agenda. It instead opts for group cohesion and identity. “It can’t be bad or wrong if enough people believe it.”
Throw in search and algorithm bubbles that actively filter other information or contrary opinions. The goal is only for the user to continue scrolling and clicking, not to be challenged or educated.
A lot of teens can barely write or comprehend written passages because they’re used to the cotton candy of SnapChat, TikTok and AI assistants.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,142
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I think half the problem is the people who care about things like logic and math realize that the fastest way to make money is use all that logic and math and knowledge to code another AI assistant, TikTok, or Snapchat. We all feed the machine of capitalism.
Mr. Big Black Friday double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,143
The other day I came across some interview where the guy who made TikTok was explaining how the algorithm works. It basically looks at people who watch similar videos to you and then assumes you’ll also like things they liked that you haven’t seen yet, but they use AI. And it was actually kind of interesting and kind of smart the way they did it, the only problem is, they invented TikTok.
Mr. Big Black Friday joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,181
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Tbh I don’t really get why people care about gay people. Like if somebody else is gay, I don’t really see how that affects me. Even if you believe that being gay is immoral and gays go to hell or whatever, if you’re not gay how’s that your problem? I don’t really get it.
Mr. Big Black Friday double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,183
At least the way I see it, if a guy is with a girl, and you have a problem with that and want to make it known, it makes it seem like you’re jealous and you want that guy’s girl. If two dudes are together, and you get yourself involved in that, I’m just saying, as a straight man, why would I have a reason to be all up in a gay man’s business? I like keeping distance from people in general. The idea to be deeply invested in other people’s sexual stuff it’s like… idk, I’m just not into that.
Mr. Big Black Friday triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,438,184
Like honestly, real shit, I wish I didn’t know about my own business. I’d like to get some of my memories wiped, not all of them, maybe 4 or 5 of them.
> Tbh I don’t really get why people care about gay people. Like if somebody else is gay, I don’t really see how that affects me. Even if you believe that being gay is immoral and gays go to hell or whatever, if you’re not gay how’s that your problem? I don’t really get it.
None of those points I disagree with. However speaking for myself I’ll say my issue isn't with gay people. In fact I’d argue that homonormativity needs a speedrun so that society can reach a point that being gay/lesbian is reduced to the same status as heterosexuality. That being gay/queer doesnt make one special nor does it warrant having an excessive amounts of parade and pride. I want the narrative to get so pushed up people’s asses that we collectively stop giving a fuck about any and all things LGBTQ because it’s no different than being straight. You want to fuck the same sex or the opposite sex? Cool nobody cares. nobody should care because a girl that wants to eat pussy or a guy fucking his girlfriend isnt revolutionary or groundbreaking.
Anonymous F double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,271
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Being gay/lesbian isnt a big deal but we make it so. we give it too much attention. This in turn emboldened that community. Hell even the term “LGBTQ community” bothers me because they’re not special class of humans that need to be treated as such. They’re literally a bunch of nobodies just like us who happen to like the same sex. But when you go on places like plebbit and InstaTrash and Tic Tac, look through the comment sections and see the post-triggered, hyperbolic, Xe/Xthem zoomer entity acting like an entitled cock muncher and proudly showing their disdain because it makes them feel empowered. I chuckle because they became the very thing they despise-a bigot.
Anonymous F triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,272
> my issue isn't with gay people.
To be exact: being homosexual isnt an issue. A person’s sexual orientation isn’t a problem. What I don’t care for is how it’s being treated as a badge of honor because “you’re so different” which is cool because it’s so queer.
Like shut the fuck you pretentious fag lol
That’s why some gay people hate when companies pander to them because they understand it really is not that special at all. But the 20-something year old infantile will have you believe other wise.
Mr. Big Black Friday joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,273
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People will always find a way to divide themselves. Just look at the United States vs Nigeria. The United States is a multi racial society so we categorize people based on race. Nigeria is 99.8% black African, 0.1% Asian, 0.1% white, so instead they divide themselves into 371 different black ethnic groups.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,275
@1,438,271 (F)
Calling attention to injustices isn't “making a big deal” of identity, it's addressing real, measurable harms. Using an umbrella term like “LGBTQ community” recognizes shared experiences and solidarity across different groups. It correctly implies superiority.
Dismissing this history and ongoing inequality as unnecessary erases the reasons people advocate for visibility in the first place.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,276
Sometimes I do wonder though, Homo sapiens as a species are only 300,000 years old, but the first humans left Africa about a million years ago. There were multiple species of humans alive at the same time that coexisted, and now our species is here and all of those other species are extinct. I sort of wonder if there’s some dark part of our psychology that’s unique to us, some drive towards us vs them mentality and genocide that’s the reason why we’re here and they aren’t. Because I mean, we’re all pretty similar, an Asian and an African and a European are all way more similar than any of us would be to a Neanderthal or whatever, but we still fight over that.
> Calling attention to injustices isn't “making a big deal” of identity, it's addressing real, measurable harms. Using an umbrella term like “LGBTQ community” recognizes shared experiences and solidarity across different groups. It correctly implies superiority.
It might be injustice but it does not warrant an implicit or explicit sense of superiority.
Like I said being gay isnt an issue. It’s not a big deal at all. Everyone suffers some form of injustice in their lifetime and sometimes justice comes and vindicates while for others it just doesn’t. It’s a fact of life.
What needs to change and go away is the homophobic/transphobic mindset. Instead of fighting against it, embrace it to the point that it’s not special and that it’s boring because it’s just as generic and common as having black and brown/black eyes.
The only reason you can make that argument is because there’s an oppression. Oppression gives you power. It emboldens you to fight back through media and representation.
But strip away the oppression and suddenly you being gay doesnt mean anything. The identity you relied on to give your fight and life meaning is pointless because you’ve been reduced to obscurity. There wouldnt any injustice to base your outrage because being gay is normal. Being straight normal.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,279
@1,438,276 (Mr. Big Black Friday)
You’re wrong, and your conclusion that Homo sapiens survived because of some inherent “us vs. them” genocidal psychology doesn’t hold up once you look at the actual evidence from biology, archaeology, and anthropology.
The timeline is mistaken and matters. Modern Homo sapiens emerged in Africa roughly 300,000 years ago, yes, but hominin species left Africa in multiple waves long before that — often as early as 1.8 million years ago with Homo erectus. Those early migrations were not “humans” in the modern sense; they were different hominin lineages adapted to particular ecological niches. The later overlaps you point to (for example, between Neanderthals, Denisovans, and Homo sapiens) happened mostly within the last few hundred thousand years and were complex interactions, not one-sided exterminations.
Extinction of other hominin species was rarely, if ever, simply a story of deliberate killing by Homo sapiens. The archaeological and genetic records point to multiple mechanisms. Climate and environmental change repeatedly reshaped habitats, shrinking ranges and fragmenting populations; small, isolated populations are far more vulnerable to extinction. Demographic and stochastic factors like small population size, inbreeding, disease can doom groups without any concerted violence from outsiders.
Attributing Homo sapiens’ success to a unique “dark” psychology is a shaky, teleological argument and implies intellectual weakness on your part. Human evolutionary success is better explained by a combination of behavioral flexibility and cultural transmission. Larger, more connected groups can accumulate and share knowledge across generations (cumulative culture), accelerating adaptive change. Higher population densities and broader geographic ranges increase the chance that at least some groups survive environmental perturbations and spread innovations. These are ecological and cultural advantages, not evidence of a uniquely genocidal psychology.
The “us vs. them” tendency you cite is not unique to Homo sapiens in the moral or causal sense you imply. Group boundary behavior appears across social species: coalitional aggression, territoriality, and in-group preference have adaptive roots. But using those tendencies to explain ancient extinctions conflates proximate psychological mechanisms with ultimate ecological and demographic causes. Even when conflict occurred between groups, it is rarely sufficient on its own to drive whole-species extinction across broad ranges.
Your modern analogy (Asians, Africans, Europeans) misleads more than it clarifies. Contemporary ethnic conflicts arise from specific political, economic, and historical circumstances — state formation, resource scarcity, ideology, technology of war — that are very different from hominin interactions tens to hundreds of thousands of years ago. Using modern interethnic violence as a model for ancient speciation and extinction oversimplifies both.
The genetic and archaeological record invites a far more nuanced view: Homo sapiens didn’t simply “win” by moral depravity; we spread because of adaptable behavior, ecological opportunity, and demographic momentum, and we frequently mixed with other hominins rather than exterminating them outright. If anything, the evidence undercuts the idea that genocide is the engine of our survival.
So no. it’s not that Homo sapiens ascended because of a unique genocidal drive. Our success is a messy, contingent mix of factors, and occasional conflict and interbreeding. Painting our evolutionary history as the product of a dark, species-wide psychology is not supported by the data.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 53 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,280
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All our differences are genetic and boring, they only become interesting because humans look for arbitrary ways to identify in group vs out group. The most similar animal to humans genetically is the chimpanzee. Chimpanzees actually engage in warfare against other groups of chimpanzees. And when groups of chimpanzees fight the males from one group will kill members of the other group because they’re a part of that group and not because of what that other chimpanzee did as an individual, which is a similar behavior to what humans have when humans commit genocide.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,283
@1,438,273 (Mr. Big Black Friday)
And in that regard thats true and in fact great so be it. As long as we all collectively understand that we deliberately choose to divide ourselves because we have nothing better to do but fabricate problems, issues and injustice because “minding our own business”, living peacefully and in harmony with your fellow humans is boring and uninteresting and that we all prefer chaos, drama and discord because it gives us something to do then fine by me.
Tl;dr if we all know, understand and are in agreement with our man made bullshit and still choose to act in ways that incite division then great. At least we know now.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,284
@1,438,281 (Mr. Big Black Friday)
You're wrong to claim "AI wrote it". That dodge doesn't fix the factual errors in your thesis.
Homo erectus and Homo sapiens are indeed distinct species, but that detail doesn't validate the argument that our survival resulted from a unique, genocidal "us vs. them" psychology. Your original post contained multiple substantive errors: incorrect timelines, an oversimplified view of extinction causes, and a misunderstanding of the archaeological and genetic evidence for interaction (including interbreeding) between hominin groups.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,285
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Well, no the timeline isn’t incorrect. I said humans left Africa for the first time about a million years ago and then your AI generated response said they didn’t, they left Africa about a million years ago (because AI isn’t actually intelligent it’s just an autocomplete algorithm). I was distinguishing between when hominins emerged out of Africa vs when Homo sapiens emerged out of Africa. Some people wouldn’t call other hominin species like Neanderthals to be humans. I consider them to be humans because Neanderthals could produce viable offspring with Homo sapiens, they had brains that were slightly larger than modern humans, and modern human populations outside of sub Saharan Africa have some small percentage of Neanderthal DNA.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,286
@1,438,280 (Mr. Big Black Friday)
Right and thats really my underlying point in that we look for Arbitrary reasons to have an “us vs. them” mentality. I personally do not subscribe to the notion of humans being hardwired for such thinking because not everyone share an innate desire to go look for some group to brawl against because reasons lol
That might be have somewhat the case in the Middle Ages but I wager that stems from limited resources. Which is no different in any era. When we are short of something and the other group has an abundance suddenly the “us vs them” narrative becomes more intricate and political.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 59 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,287
People like to say that other human species went extinct because we were more intelligent and outcompeted them for resources. The world population back then was tiny, and there were other species that had brain sizes that were very comparable to modern humans and the reason why other species were able to emerge out of Africa before our species evolved was because they had the ability to manufacture stone tools they could use to hunt game, which allowed them to survive outside of Africa. So they were human in my view.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,289
@1,438,276 (Mr. Big Black Friday)
Perhaps our own personal brand of evolution. Our brains continued to develop further so we’ve become more sophisticated in that regard. But idk I just can’t get behind that. I genuinely there are somethings that are within our control. I cannot leave it to “we’re like this by design.” Thats getting into nature vs nurture territory.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,291
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I don’t think it’s outside of our control. But I do think if you look back at what humans have done historically, you have to admit we do have a tendency towards collective violence, especially males. It doesn’t always manifest itself in every individual, or even at a collective level in every generation, but it’s happened a lot and it’s been taken to some pretty extreme levels. It might be better to accept that it’s a real thing rather than pretend it doesn’t exist.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,293
Especially because, technology progresses faster than instincts. Hitler didn’t have a mentality that was very different from the colonists who came hundreds of years before him, but if Hitler was born a generation later, he could have had nuclear weapons.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,295
@1,438,291 (Mr. Big Black Friday)
Fair enough. But my concern(I guess?) is that we use that as a crutch to continue needless violence. Yes we have laws and I suppose religion to sort of keep folks in check. But idk I just don’t have a desire personally. Even if there was some benefit to participate in a group and to go fight. What reasoning other than “protection” to act out violence.
But you’re right if those are facts and it’s unfortunate.
Mr. Big Black Friday replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,297
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Idk. I mean I don’t think humans are completely evil, and the fact that humans have evil tendencies doesn’t excuse it. I guess Fascism and Christianity have two opposite takes on it. Fascists believe that human nature is bad therefore it’s an excuse to be evil. Christianity is based on the idea of original sin, that all humans are born imperfect, but that we should strive to be more perfect and live towards an example. I think it’s possible to think that way without necessarily being religious, it just depends on whether somebody has a positive or a negative outlook.
Mr. Big Black Friday double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,298
Although, there are some religions that believe human nature is good, I’ve heard in Shinto they believe that (but I don’t know anything about Shinto), but that could be interesting.
Mr. Big Black Friday triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,304
But anyway, my point with that was really, I think people turn sexuality into this big identity thing where people have sides and fight about it because people just sorta do that with any random thing because of an innate desire to identify with an in group.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 15 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,451
The zoomies are also responsible for the current state NSFW art.
They're the reason why payment processors are going after any platform that enables an artist to earn a living drawing people having sex.
Roughly between 2000-2017, artists made somewhat of a decent living drawing smut but it rarely landed big corpo's radar in those days it wasnt so public facing like how it is now. The zoomies started fucking it up for everyone by opening Patreon/Gumroad accounts in mass to partake in the nsfw art game which ultimately oversaturated the market, brought undesired attention to the wrong crowd(the payment processors, heritage foundation, the tifagate, etc) All those elements introduced out of touch politicians and religious groups nsfw art.
When covid hit that was truly the defining moment that was going all to shit. more people started taking up art, be it 2D or 3D as they had free time since some were laid off or just WFH. (that's why we saw surge in 3D animators making porn for the past 5 years. They all watch one fucking blender donut tutorial and suddenly demanding patreon subs for their garbage animations and models.)
Anonymous J replied with this 3 weeks ago, 49 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,438,465
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yeah it sounds ridiculous i'm sure. However in the grand scheme it goes back to same idea that internet censorship is a legitimate problem. onlyfans/Fansly e-thots sell tits and pussy and yet it rarely gets any pushback from visa and MC.
people say nigger every single day and along with a bunch of hate speech and the server that hosts it doesnt have the processors hounding them to clean up their act or risk termination.
NSFW Art however is an issue apparently since now people are either incapable understanding the concept that the "exception isn't the norm" or the powers are using it as a scapegoat for their propaganda.
Small dick, MLP-loving neckbeard gets caught consuming and creating fictional characters that are underage? Lets ban him and prevent him from making money(thats a good thing)
Lets generalize every artist the same way even though they dont create loli/shota/beastitality content.(thats a bad thing)