Topic: Black people are funny tho.
Anonymous A started this discussion 4 hours ago #134,824
Meta joined in and replied with this 3 hours ago, 11 minutes later[^] [v] #1,434,406
> My first inklings about what may be a deficiency in abstract thinking came from what I began to learn about African languages. In a conversation with students in Nigeria I asked how you would say that a coconut is about halfway up the tree in their local language. “You can’t say that,” they explained. “All you can say is that it is ‘up’.” “How about right at the top?” “Nope; just ‘up’.” In other words, there appeared to be no way to express gradations.This part actually makes a lot of sense though because coconuts only grow at the top of palm trees. The idea of a coconut being "halfway up the tree" is meaningless and impossible. This is probably why they don't have a concept gradations of coconut height because it's just not needed.
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Meta double-posted this 3 hours ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,407
I mean I get the point they're trying to make but that was a very bad example.
Mr. Black Boi joined in and replied with this 3 hours ago, 26 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,408
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 3 hours ago, 55 seconds later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,409
They were just confused as to why a nazi would be halfway up a coconut tree.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 3 hours ago, 58 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,410
Now the Swahili word for female tho…
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Mr. Black Boi quadruple-posted this 3 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,412
But lowkey, I think this article is lying because I know they speak Yoruba in Nigeria and I was able to translate a coconut halfway up a tree using Google Translate and when I translated it back it said the coconut was halfway up a tree. So I think this might actually just be complete bullshit.
agbon ni agbedemeji si oke igi
agbon ni agbedemeji si oke igi
Mr. Black Boi quintuple-posted this 3 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,413
You know what? Yeah this bullshit.
Agbon jẹ ọgọrin meje ojuami meji ninu ogorun awọn ọna soke igi.
Agbon jẹ ọgọrin meje ojuami meji ninu ogorun awọn ọna soke igi.
Meta replied with this 3 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,414
It was kind of a tedious article. 2000 words to say "Africans evolved under very different circumstances than Europeans, and they are very different people from Europeans as a result".
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 3 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,415
@previous (Meta)
Given the article was about a west African language, I feel like it would be more interesting to compare it to Asian languages. Since Nigerian languages are tonal, I feel like it would make more sense / be more interesting to compare it to Mandarin for example.
Given the article was about a west African language, I feel like it would be more interesting to compare it to Asian languages. Since Nigerian languages are tonal, I feel like it would make more sense / be more interesting to compare it to Mandarin for example.
Mr. Black Boi joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 47 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,421
Now that I think about it, of course this can’t be true because if you have a language that has integers, you can represent any ratio as a fraction.
meji ninu meta
meje ninu mẹjọ
Also, apparently mẹta means three in Yoruba…
meji ninu meta
meje ninu mẹjọ
Also, apparently mẹta means three in Yoruba…
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 hours ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,422
You know that when niganon goes on a spam rampage that means it doesnt have a way to deal with that even though it makes angy.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 2 hours ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,423
@previous (A)
> You know that when niganon goes on a spam rampage that means it doesnt have a way to deal with that even though it makes angy.
Can you rephrase this as a grammatically correct sentence so I can understand it?
> You know that when niganon goes on a spam rampage that means it doesnt have a way to deal with that even though it makes angy.
Can you rephrase this as a grammatically correct sentence so I can understand it?
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 2 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,426
Yoruba religion is interesting, they’re polytheistic and believe in many Orishas but they still believe in one supreme creator god Ọlọrun.
https://youtu.be/g-fMG1XTZzs
https://youtu.be/g-fMG1XTZzs
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 27 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,428
@previous (Mr. Black Boi)
> Yoruba religion is interesting, they’re polytheistic and believe in many Orishas but they still believe in one supreme creator god Ọlọrun.
>
> https://youtu.be/g-fMG1XTZzs
All of the African diaspora religions are tied to Yoruba religions.
> Yoruba religion is interesting, they’re polytheistic and believe in many Orishas but they still believe in one supreme creator god Ọlọrun.
>
> https://youtu.be/g-fMG1XTZzs
All of the African diaspora religions are tied to Yoruba religions.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 58 minutes ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,437
Niganon upset, lul
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 36 minutes ago, 22 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,442
@1,434,406 (Meta)
It doesn't make sense because languages that do have a way of expressing halfway up can apply it to any situation.
If this language really doesn't have a way to express that, it would mean they lack a way to communicate this idea in the endless number of ways that it would be useful outside of this situation.
This would be immediately obvious to any abstract thinker that can understand universal vs particular cases, and speculate about how a problem would arise outside their current one. Being unable to predict that issue is myopic.
I've noticed that blacks and other low IQ groups tend to really struggle with any "intuition pump" that comes up in philosophy. Give them the trolly problem and they don't evaluate how action vs inaction impacts moral decisions, they try to either find a loophole or declare that this wouldn't really happen and ignore the scenario.
It's the same problem with pointing to an average. They try to find an exception, or declare that not all apply to the average, as if they are unable to understand an abstract concept like an average to begin with. It would be one thing to say "Yes, but also" however they always say something like "That's wrong because" which shows they fundamentally don't get abstractions.
It doesn't make sense because languages that do have a way of expressing halfway up can apply it to any situation.
If this language really doesn't have a way to express that, it would mean they lack a way to communicate this idea in the endless number of ways that it would be useful outside of this situation.
This would be immediately obvious to any abstract thinker that can understand universal vs particular cases, and speculate about how a problem would arise outside their current one. Being unable to predict that issue is myopic.
I've noticed that blacks and other low IQ groups tend to really struggle with any "intuition pump" that comes up in philosophy. Give them the trolly problem and they don't evaluate how action vs inaction impacts moral decisions, they try to either find a loophole or declare that this wouldn't really happen and ignore the scenario.
It's the same problem with pointing to an average. They try to find an exception, or declare that not all apply to the average, as if they are unable to understand an abstract concept like an average to begin with. It would be one thing to say "Yes, but also" however they always say something like "That's wrong because" which shows they fundamentally don't get abstractions.
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Mr. Black Boi joined in and replied with this 13 minutes ago, 22 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,444
Anonymous G replied with this 10 minutes ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,447
@previous (Mr. Black Boi)
There it goes again, unable to refute one point, entirely reliant on insults.
There it goes again, unable to refute one point, entirely reliant on insults.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 9 minutes ago, 52 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,448
@previous (G)
What’s your point? I didn’t see any point, I just saw a lot of rambling about how you think black people can’t understand abstract concepts, which ironically makes you sound retarded.
What’s your point? I didn’t see any point, I just saw a lot of rambling about how you think black people can’t understand abstract concepts, which ironically makes you sound retarded.
Anonymous G replied with this 8 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,450
@previous (Mr. Black Boi)
I explained my point, you can quote an excerpt and respond to that specific point if you are inclined.
There's nowhere for the conversation to go if you just call me names and refuse to engage with any of the points I wrote out.
I explained my point, you can quote an excerpt and respond to that specific point if you are inclined.
There's nowhere for the conversation to go if you just call me names and refuse to engage with any of the points I wrote out.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 7 minutes ago, 46 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,451
I have a point to my existence, I have goals and aspirations, my life has meaning and direction. I don’t think your life has a point. I think you just make false comparisons, and that’s how you maintain self esteem, but you don’t have a spirit that guides you to anything higher. You just waste your time comparing yourself to blacks, but you don’t actually work on yourself, so you remain a failure. I don’t need to compare myself to anybody, because I have a sense of self. You don’t really. I don’t think you understand what you are unless it’s relative to a black person. Which is okay, I consider myself to be more important than you anyway.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 6 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,452
@1,434,450 (G)
> There's nowhere for the conversation to go if you just call me names and refuse to engage with any of the points I wrote out.
Isn’t it beautiful how you mocked me for saying debate is pointless yet it took you this long to almost just barely realize the point I was making. But you still don’t get it yet, and you’re going to try to argue with me now out of pride or whatever. Usual bitch bullshit, keep doing it.
> There's nowhere for the conversation to go if you just call me names and refuse to engage with any of the points I wrote out.
Isn’t it beautiful how you mocked me for saying debate is pointless yet it took you this long to almost just barely realize the point I was making. But you still don’t get it yet, and you’re going to try to argue with me now out of pride or whatever. Usual bitch bullshit, keep doing it.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 5 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,453
The thing you have to realize is neither of us, neither you or I will change our minds no matter what either of us says. I understand that, I don’t think you do.
Anonymous G replied with this 3 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,454
@1,434,451 (Mr. Black Boi)
Once again talking about yourself and insulting me, but not a single refutation of any point I made, not even an attempt ay addressing anything I said.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know black people that ever can point to a specific point they disagree with, and articulate an actual refutation.
It's always the same technique. Ignore the content of what was said, and make accusations about personal character and try to evoke an emptional reaponse by insulting them.
Surely if blacks were just as capable you'd see one do both at the very least. They'd refute a central point, and maybe follow it with an insult.
But it's always the same pattern.
Once again talking about yourself and insulting me, but not a single refutation of any point I made, not even an attempt ay addressing anything I said.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know black people that ever can point to a specific point they disagree with, and articulate an actual refutation.
It's always the same technique. Ignore the content of what was said, and make accusations about personal character and try to evoke an emptional reaponse by insulting them.
Surely if blacks were just as capable you'd see one do both at the very least. They'd refute a central point, and maybe follow it with an insult.
But it's always the same pattern.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 2 minutes ago, 57 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,455
I mean, let’s just imagine for a second we take you at your word. Blacks are stupid and inferior. Great. We’ve established that. Now what are you? Blacks are inferior. Okay but what are you? Blacks are stupid.
Do you see the problem here? You’re literally nothing. You don’t exist. I exist. You don’t. If you die nothing is lost because nothing was ever there.
Do you see the problem here? You’re literally nothing. You don’t exist. I exist. You don’t. If you die nothing is lost because nothing was ever there.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 2 minutes ago, 30 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,456
Maybe you’re so broken you can’t understand. I think you are so broken you can’t understand.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 minute ago, 36 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,434,457
@1,434,453 (Mr. Black Boi)
I've changed my mind from conversations, because sometimes I have a point refuted and cannot find any way to modify my argument to maintain my position. So I change it.
You are starting with the assumption that neither side is willing, which gives you an excuse to never engage.
If I was really stubborn, you could refute a central point, and then continuosly show my refusal to engage with that key refutation. You won't, of course, because you have no refutation. You chose your beliefs based on what is convenient for you, not on which ideas stand the scrutiny of open dialogue.
I've changed my mind from conversations, because sometimes I have a point refuted and cannot find any way to modify my argument to maintain my position. So I change it.
You are starting with the assumption that neither side is willing, which gives you an excuse to never engage.
If I was really stubborn, you could refute a central point, and then continuosly show my refusal to engage with that key refutation. You won't, of course, because you have no refutation. You chose your beliefs based on what is convenient for you, not on which ideas stand the scrutiny of open dialogue.
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