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Topic: If women reject male feedback, we certainly don’t need female feedback on being a man.
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 week ago#134,732
If you take it you could end up conflicted and anxiety ridden. “I want a sensitive man who listens to me and does more than half of all home upkeep, who takes care of the kids and who is a top earner, but who also takes charge.”
The great thing is not to give a shit. I look at these losers who care. Even incels let their entire lives be defined by women.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 4 hours later[^][v]#1,433,659
Is this that thing people do where you make a statement about everybody but really this is something that one person did to you specifically and now you’re annoyed by it but you don’t wanna sound like you’re complaining about something that happened to you so you phrased it like this happens to everybody?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 38 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,665
@previous (B)
If it was just one woman there wouldn't be a big wave of "manosphere" content, and millions of men suddenly single and cutting off from society.
There's a female delusion problem. Not just because most single women think they can get a 1% man, but because so many of them think reproduction itself which all creatures do to preserve their genes, is somehow a patriarchal trick to control them. They actively hate the societies with the most rights for women, and think the most misogynistic societies should be beyond criticism.
The west wont survive unless something changes quickly. Some people predicted this decades before it became popular in the mainstream.
> If it was just one woman there wouldn't be a big wave of "manosphere" content, and millions of men suddenly single and cutting off from society. > > There's a female delusion problem. Not just because most single women think they can get a 1% man, but because so many of them think reproduction itself which all creatures do to preserve their genes, is somehow a patriarchal trick to control them. They actively hate the societies with the most rights for women, and think the most misogynistic societies should be beyond criticism. > > The west wont survive unless something changes quickly. Some people predicted this decades before it became popular in the mainstream.
Who did? I want to read the forbearers. You make a good point about the most open societies. Many women in the West use huge amounts of mental health medication - up to a quarter of women over 40.
The “intersectionality” nonsense has Western women complaining about the “male gaze” but engaging in willful blindness when it comes to Muslim abuses of women from murder to genital mutilation to child brides to stoning and trafficking.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,672
I feel like a lot of woke right internet manospehere slop is just learned helplessness. It all centers on "I hate women because women have opinions I don’t like, therefore women are delusional." Really, a woman who doesn’t like a man who doesn’t like women is probably just being realistic. How would a relationship ever work between a woman and a man who doesn’t like women? It doesn’t make any sense. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that you think you can’t get women, so you start hating women, and you tell yourself it’s their fault, and now women are never gonna wanna be with you because you hate women, and then you’re stuck in your little low IQ Andrew Tate internet cult getting scammed by crypto nonsense.
> It all centers on "I hate women because women have opinions I don’t like, therefore women are delusional."
This is what it means to use subjectivity as a defense.
You don't pick any objective rubric to compare them, you use the "it's an opinion" thought-terminating cliche.
Modern women have an understanding of the world that is detached from reality, they are unaffected by statistics. When you are unable to have a constructive conversation about data you fall back to "opinion".
> Really, a woman who doesn’t like a man who doesn’t like women is probably just being realistic. How would a relationship ever work between a woman and a man who doesn’t like women? It doesn’t make any sense. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that you think you can’t get women, so you start hating women, and you tell yourself it’s their fault, and now women are never gonna wanna be with you because you hate women
Again, data. Surveys show women openly hate men much more than the opposite.
You could claim it's really the other way around, but no actual data shows that. You could claim there's some behavior, but the behavior never matches the definition for hate. You'll say "language evolves" to turn all language subjective and avoid admitting the behavior doesn't match the real definition.
> and then you’re stuck in your little low IQ Andrew Tate internet cult getting scammed by crypto nonsense.
No one cares about Tate except feminists who want to strawman.
It's always the feminists who bring him up, they're never responding to anyone who said Tate was good.
Anonymous C double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,682
@1,433,674 (Mr. Black Boi)
If you can't understand how arabs got brought up, you can't follow a simple conversation.
Women hate cultures that give women rights. Women defend cultures that take rights away from women. Islam is exceptionally strict in what a woman can do, that's how it came up.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,703
And I’m just gonna say it, I’ve been friends with Muslims before, I can’t imagine myself in a million years ever being friends with you. It’s not because Muslims don’t have issues, it’s just you have more.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 1 week ago, 50 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,705
I mean, think about how absurd hating "the west" would be. West is a direction. But it’s a made up direction, if you go far enough west you wind up east because the earth is a sphere. Which half is east and which half is west is separated by an imaginary line that goes through England because they were a bunch of narcissists back in the day and they wanted to be the center of the world even though the center of the Earth is actually at the center of the earth not the surface of the Earth.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,708
And I mean really, people don’t like this when you say it, but Europe and Asia are the same continent, they even have the same tectonic plate. "The west" is just an idea somebody made up.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,711
@previous (C)
My point is just women aren’t deciding between you and Islamic culture or something dumb like that. They just don’t like you as a person, and when you criticize Arabs, they’re probably defensive because they think you’re racist, because you are. If you weren’t racist women, people in general actually, would probably feel more comfortable around you.
Anonymous G double-posted this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,712
And this isn’t exclusively an issue with white guys, I’ve seen everybody do it. I’ve seen Asian guys complain Asian women don’t want Asian guys and that they’re race traitors or whatever, but when I see couples on the street, I see a lot more Asian women with Asian guys than Asian women with white guys. It’s the same thing for blacks and whites. Whenever somebody starts bringing up "culture" in the dating scene, I feel like rolling my eyes ngl.
> I feel like a lot of woke right internet manospehere slop is just learned helplessness. It all centers on "I hate women because women have opinions I don’t like, therefore women are delusional." Really, a woman who doesn’t like a man who doesn’t like women is probably just being realistic. How would a relationship ever work between a woman and a man who doesn’t like women? It doesn’t make any sense. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that you think you can’t get women, so you start hating women, and you tell yourself it’s their fault, and now women are never gonna wanna be with you because you hate women, and then you’re stuck in your little low IQ Andrew Tate internet cult getting scammed by crypto nonsense.
Those assholes are a gift to feminists. There are reasonable grievances about how modern marriage is structured, how custody works and whom family courts favor. It isn’t unreasonable to tell militant feminists to actually live their beliefs rather than coddling vestigeal patriarchal protections (alimony, etc.).
Tate and friends are full of shit. Listening to their advice only would keep one lonely and miserable, of course, to continue listening to their tirades.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 19 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,765
I mean if you are struggling to get a girlfriend you should listen to women to learn what they like and then be more like that. If a woman is struggling to get a boyfriend she should listen to men to learn what they like and then be more like that. It just turns out that it's a lot easier for a woman to get a boyfriend than it is for a man to get a girlfriend!
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,433,766
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Getting girls is a struggle man, I’m just struggling and thuggling like the gangsta I am yo. I’m out here, tryna make it out the trap, get into a relationship. That why you gotta network, all these business connections with babes, you know what I mean. I gotta get to that paper. They say you’ll never meet a man made of money, but I ain’t lookin for no man if you know what I mean. Ahahaaaaa