sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^][v]#241,388
@241,385 (D)
Option 2. I couldn't possibly conceive every potential response.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^][v]#241,389
@previous (sluggy)
but option 2 doesn't answer the question and is irrelevant
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 54 minutes after the original post[^][v]#241,390
If you consider it to be a personal choice, you wouldn't out someone.
EDIT: I'm very unclear when I write. I meant that it's a personal choice to come out, not a personal choice to be a homo or pedo, I thought everyone here wasn't so ignorant to think that was still thought to be a valid belief.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
âŽâ _â ⎠replied with this 15 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#241,398
@previous (sluggy) > I thought everyone here wasn't so ignorant to think that was still thought to be a valid belief.
mm would like to have a word with you.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#241,399
@previous (âŽâ _â ⎠)
I doubt he believes homosexuality or pedophilia are choices.
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âŽâ _â ⎠replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#241,400
@previous (sluggy)
I doubt he thinks the former is.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,407
@241,398 (âŽâ _â ⎠)
1. Who are you?
2. Are you retarded?
âŽâ _â ⎠replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,409
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,447
I don't see why I'd have to "out" either of them.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,449
@previous (SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN.)
You wouldnt, but people do out others for any number of reasons. Sometimes it's a hypocrite homo who pushes anti-gay legislature or a preacher who has harsh anti-gay rhetoric. Sometimes, it's a famous person and a person thinks by outing them they are helping gays become more acceptable.
Also, people out pedos cause they are cruel.
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,450
@previous (sluggy)
I'm not anti-pedo or anti-homo. So I wouldn't out anynbody.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,533
Not to everyone, but probably to my gf and best friend.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,534
Whole lot of lying going on in this thread right here.
Anyone in possession of a secret will use it in whichever way they believe advantages them most. The end.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,535
@previous (I)
What it the have no incentive to use it?
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,537
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
They save it until such time as they do. Which of course still qualifies as using the secret to their advantage. The only way for them not to is to forget the secret completely, which is exactly why the CIA invented MK-Ultra mind control.
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,548
@241,384 (sluggy) @241,390 (sluggy)
Uh, are you drawing a moral equivalence between homo and pedo?
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,550
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
I am. Both are just thoughts until you act. Thoughts have no morality.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,551
@241,548 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
noooooo... no message. though, neither is inherently immoral by existing. it just popped into my head while writing the topic.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,555
@241,550 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
Would you say that someone who's prone to violent, homicidal thoughts on a daily basis, is no more dangerous than someone who's not?
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,556
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
No. I have violent thoughts regularly, and I'm no more likely to offend.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,557
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
That's utter bullshit. Of course you are.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,558
@241,555 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
The commie thought police have arrived.
(Edited 8 seconds later.)
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,559
@241,557 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Says who? We can't and shouldn't try to control thoughts. I only judge people on actions, which is more sensible and accurate.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,560
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
So thoughts are utterly meaningless?
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,561
@241,557 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Most people are entirely against directly harming someone.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,562
@241,560 (K)
It depends on how you assign meaning. Most of the time, we never hear a person's worse thoughts.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,563
@241,557 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
You're so full of shit. Murders are committed as crimes of Passion, gang violence, or in war which is just legal gang violence. Freaks barely factor into it.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,564
@241,561 (sluggy)
And yet people get harmed every day. Who's more likely to do the harming? Someone who thinks about doing so all the time, or someone who's never had such a thought in their life?
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cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,565
@241,563 (L)
Oh, of course. People never think through criminal actions.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,566
@241,563 (L)
Oh my god... This post is so wrong on every level...
@241,562 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
True, but I'm just saying that a person's thoughts as well as actions are factors in your opinion of them.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,567
@241,564 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Who has never had such a thought?
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,568
@241,566 (K)
It is, but since we don't often hear these thoughts, we have no way of accurately judging this.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,569
To answer your question jump, I would out a pedo to their family, significant other, and if they worked with kids or had regular access to them, the kids' caretakers as well. Assuming they didn't already know.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,570
@241,565 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
LOL! You're right, the boogeyman is out to get you! buspuppie is a boogeyman she's gonna get ya! jump is a boogeyman, he's gonna get your kids! Please grow up and leave the fairytales behind and monsters under the bed.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,571
@241,567 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
I doubt anyone has never thought of hurting someone else. But for the sake of argument.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,572
@241,566 (K) > This post is so wrong on every level...
So wrong that you couldn't show one thing wrong about it! You are a genius!
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,573
@241,571 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Don't use false ideas for the sake of argument. Everyone has these thoughts, everyone. Yet everyone does not act on them.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,575
@241,568 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
Wouldn't them talking count as getting an idea of their thoughts?
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,577
@previous (K)
No. I talk about horrible crimes because I'm interested, not planning my own.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,579
@241,573 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
Oh for fuck's sake buspuppie. No. But of those who do act, I think it's fair to say they are more likely to be someone who thought about it regularly than otherwise.
I simply think pedophiles are more dangerous around kids than non-pedophiles. And I consider it irresponsible not to 'out' such a person if they're around kids, or have an SO they might have kids with, etc.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,580
@241,557 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Got any actual science to back up that assertion?
Oh wait, you're a feminist, of course you don't.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,582
@241,575 (K)
also, how many serial killers discuss these things with people beforehand? I'd say not many because they don't want to be caught. So you could almost say that talking about makes it less likely to happen.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,583
@241,579 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
You have no proof of any of that. You let your emotions rule your decision making.
If you really want to protect kids,keep them away from men completely. They are the most likely offenders.
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Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,585
@OP
The vast majority of people can't keep a secret, assume almost anyone would out a homosexual or a pedophile. Just for gossip if nothing else.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,586
Admittedly, the sample is of those with diagnosed or apparent mental illness, but this is a problem in a lot of psych literature.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,587
@241,583 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
Seriously. You don't think pedophiles are more likely to offend against kids than non-pedophiles?
Is there any illogical position you won't take in order to defend pedos?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,588
@241,579 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w) > I think it's fair to say they are more likely to be someone who thought about it regularly than otherwise.
No, it's not fair to say this. Your axioms are idiotic and not based upon reason or experience. Gang-related homicides are the majority in many jurisdictions, possibly nationwide.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,589
@241,587 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
I defend anyone until they commit a criminal act. It's silly to hate someone when they have done nothing, but you cant see that. You are not a logical person.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,590
@241,588 (F)
Must you shit up every thread with your 'trolling'? Fuck off mountainshit.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,591
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,594
@241,587 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Black and white thinking. Just like people come in shades from pale to tan to brown to black, people have varying levels of attraction to children, ranging from exclusive pedophiles, to people who prefer kids but can like adults, people who like kids and adults, people who mainly like adults but like kids a little, people who don't really like kids but would do one if they weren't getting any from anywhere else, to people who are grossed out by kids.
Anonymous F double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,596
@241,590 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Quality contribution. Congratulations for your logical and well-reasoned assault upon my arguments, and for your strength of character in avoiding personal attacks.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,606
> I think it's fair to say they are more likely to be someone who thought about it regularly than otherwise.
Except it's not fair to say that without some kind of proof to back it up.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,609
@previous (I)
I already replied to your request for a citation.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,611
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
That link did not support your claims. It didn't relate thoughts to actions, it's about mental health.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,614
@241,609 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Post a link showing a breakdown of homicides by their nature, eg. gang-related, crime of passion, self-defence, occurring to facilitate another crime like theft, people killed by serial killer weirdos who kill people for fun.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,615
@241,611 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
No, the study does establish a link between violent thoughts and likelihood to commit violence, it may not be on the first page but it's there. Look up the first citation on google scholar also, if you don't have access to an academic database.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,617
@241,609 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Unfortunately, my standards of "science" are considerably higher than yours. The study you referenced is pseudoscience at best. It proves nothing beyond the authors desire to masturbate publicly.
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buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,618
@241,615 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
They only studied mentally ill people. It doesn't fit your opinion.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,622
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
And I already said that, didn't I? It's a problem with a lot of psych studies, they frequently lack a truly representative sample. Usually college students or those who've entered the mental health system in some way.
You'd have to toss out a great deal of our knowledge of psychology if you were that strict about it.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,623
Cunt, look at these risk factors, men are at the top. You'd better dyke out to help keep your children safe.
Gender. Men were somewhat more likely than women to be violent, but the difference was not large. Violence by women was more likely than violence by men to be directed against family members and to occur at home, and less likely to result in medical treatment or arrest.
• Prior violence. All measures of prior violence – self-report, arrest records, and hospital records – were strongly related to future violence.
• Childhood experiences. The seriousness and frequency of having been physically abused as a child predicted subsequent violent behavior, as did having a parent – particularly a father – who was a substance abuser or a criminal.
• Neighborhood and race. While there was an overall association between race and violence, African Americans and whites who lived in comparably disadvantaged neighborhoods had the same rates of violence.
• Diagnosis. A diagnosis of a major mental disorder -- especially a diagnosis of schizophrenia -- was associated with a lower rate of violence than a diagnosis of a personality or adjustment disorder. A co-occurring diagnosis of substance abuse was strongly predictive of violence.
• Psychopathy. Psychopathy, as measured by a screening version of the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, was more strongly associated with violence than any other risk factor we studied. The “antisocial behavior†component of psychopathy, rather than the “emotional detachment†component, accounted for most of this relationship.
• Delusions. The presence of delusions – or the type of delusions or the content of delusions – was not associated with violence. A generally “suspicious†attitude toward others was related to later violence.
• Hallucinations. Neither hallucinations in general, nor “command†hallucinations per se, elevated the risk of violence. If voices specifically commanded a violent act, however, the likelihood of violence was increased.
• Violent thoughts. Thinking or daydreaming about harming others was associated with violence, particularly if the thoughts or daydreams were persistent.
• Anger. The higher a patient scored on the Novaco Anger Scale in the hospital, the more likely he or she was to be violent later in the community these risk factors.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,627
@241,622 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
If it doesn't fit then don't use it to further your point. Once again, you should try to be accurate when you debate something.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,631
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
She's not interested in accuracy. She doesn't even care about this whole violence thing. She is merely using it to justify her prejudice and hatred of pedophiles.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,634
@241,627 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
You don't just toss out studies because the sample is nonrepresentative. It doesn't make it not "fit."
If you're able to find a study with a representative sample that says otherwise about violent thoughts, I'd be happy to see it.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,636
@241,631 (F)
She can't help it. Most have a visceral reaction towards pedophiles. They then have to find information to make their feelings sound like legitimate research.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY double-posted this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,637
@241,634 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Cunt, you made the claim. When you make the claim, you have to defend it. Don't you know this by now?
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY triple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,638
@241,634 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
You can't take research based on mentally ill people and claim that it fits everyone. Jesus Cunt.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,644
@241,636 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
It just really annoys me because I reach many of my positions by reason. It saddens me that others are so dominated by their emotions.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,646
@241,637 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
No shit, buspuppie. I'm talking about the difficulty of finding psych studies with a representative sample in this area. It's hard to find.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,648
@241,637 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
I just saw a unicorn prove me wrong! oh you can't!
Anonymous F double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,650
@241,646 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
So you admit to making decisions and adopting positions based upon no evidence? Then you seek to find evidence to justify yourself?
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,651
@241,648 (F)
I have been in possession of the only Unicorn in existence. WHERE ARE YOU HIDING? I WILL FIND YOU!
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#241,662