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Topic: Why didn’t Rome or Ancient Egypt invent the steam engine?

Darkness started this discussion 3 hours ago #134,512

I feel like I would have thought of it. Probably not. But I still feel like I would have for some reason.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #1,431,788

I think they did in Rome but they thought it was just a curiosity and focused more on water power

Darkness joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 5 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,791

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I think the problem is their "steam engine" was just a metal sphere with two holes in it that spurted steam out the sides, so it didn’t produce enough power to do anything more than be a curiosity. But still it’s surprising they didn’t bother thinking about how they could make it more efficient.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,792

Daneseed and British hypergamy bred smart fellas.

Darkness replied with this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,797

@previous (D)
To be fair, Britain was part of the Roman Empire and they didn’t think of it either until almost a couple thousand years later.

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Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,798

@1,431,791 (Darkness)

They were too obsessed with water powered items, if it wasn't run by water they weren't very interested

Darkness replied with this 2 hours ago, 50 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,799

It’s interesting how it takes humanity thousands of years to think of things that the average person can understand.

Darkness double-posted this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,800

I wonder if there are aliens looking at us right now wondering why we haven’t invented interstellar travel after watching us for 300,000 years.

Darkness triple-posted this 2 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,801

…throwing stone spears for most of it

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 hour ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,808

@OP

> I feel like I would have thought of it. Probably not. But I still feel like I would have for some reason.

Slavery provided an ample labor force. There was no drive toward mass mechanization, though they had winches and gears.

Darkness joined in and replied with this 1 hour ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,810

@previous (E)
That reason makes sense. I think that’s part of the explanation as to why the north won the civil war in the United States.

Darkness double-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,811

The British Empire did practice slavery but they had a weird system where you could own slaves as long as you just didn’t do it in Great Britain. (Almost like they knew slavery was a bad look or something.)

Anonymous D replied with this 53 minutes ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,816

@previous (Darkness)
Or they knew history. Slavery was profitable, but slave revolts were expensive.

Move the slaves offshore, and then reshore the profits. They did that very well, until it became clear that slavery was politically unviable, and took credit for forcing other countries to stop.

Just like they gave indpendence to countries that were on the verge of declaring indpendence to look benelovent.

Darkness replied with this 27 minutes ago, 25 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,820

@previous (D)
It’s amazing how a little island went from being a little island to controlling 25% of the world to just being a little island again. I feel like the era of history where one country could dominate large portions of the world ended in 1945. Now that nuclear weapons exist, I feel like it’s kind of impossible for an industrialized country to dominate in that way again, because all a weak country has to do is align themselves with somebody who has nuclear weapons. Places like Taiwan and Estonia for example, without nuclear weapons there’s no way those countries would exist (even thought they don’t have nuclear weapons they’re just aligned with countries that do).

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Darkness double-posted this 22 minutes ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,821

Or South Korea even. Can you imagine South Korea existing if the US didn’t have nuclear weapons? They could never win a war with Russia, China, and North Korea.

Darkness triple-posted this 20 minutes ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,822

Idk about Japan though, Japan might still exist just because it’s an island and it’s mountainous so they might not think it’s worth it.

Anonymous E replied with this 18 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,823

@1,431,821 (Darkness)

> Or South Korea even. Can you imagine South Korea existing if the US didn’t have nuclear weapons? They could never win a war with Russia, China, and North Korea.

North Korea couldn’t fight a war without nukes. 1960s equipment, gasifier rigged troop transports, and starving soldiers.

Darkness replied with this 17 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,824

@previous (E)
They have a border with China. The reason why North Korea exists is because of China. If they went to war with South Korea, it would mostly be Chinese soldiers fighting South Korean soldiers.

Darkness double-posted this 15 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,825

And the thing about that isn’t combat experience or anything like that, it’s just production capacity and population size. China wouldn’t really have to be that good at fighting if they can produce endless weapons and endless amounts of troops.

Darkness triple-posted this 14 minutes ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,826

Of course, that doesn’t happen (because nuclear weapons). Which is a good thing.
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