Topic: The SPLC was funding white nationalist groups, including "unite the right" in charlottesville.
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #134,409
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,431,015
Actually, they were paying inside informants, not "funding the groups".
boof joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 34 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,017
so maybe the nazis should get off their fucking back now
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 27 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,018
@1,431,015 (B)
Source? I think you are just making that up.
The couldn't find an informant for less than $1 million? Bullshit.
Source? I think you are just making that up.
The couldn't find an informant for less than $1 million? Bullshit.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 16 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,019
boof replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,021
Jeepers, could there be an Israeli connection
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,036
They paid informants. Kash Patel is desperate for plaudits and relevance in his bug eyed alcoholic stupor.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,042
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 58 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,072
Figures all these guys are informants. Don Black tried to seize control of Dominica and did almost no time. Same with David Duke for tax fraud. They get sweetheart deals by rolling over on members or informing on militants whose actions would disrupt a sweet passive income. William Pierce was the same. He ran a mail order catalog of books, stickers, flags, records, and made more than $1 million a year.
A black guy pointing stuff out joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,097
@1,431,018 (A)
> Source? I think you are just making that up.
There’s a conspiracy theory that neo nazis don’t exist and they’re just FBI agents, it’s really dumb just ignore it.
> Source? I think you are just making that up.
There’s a conspiracy theory that neo nazis don’t exist and they’re just FBI agents, it’s really dumb just ignore it.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,100
@previous (A black guy pointing stuff out)
There's a similar theory that the FBI and other figures in government are all neonazis and that's why USA is always so racist.
There's a similar theory that the FBI and other figures in government are all neonazis and that's why USA is always so racist.
A black guy pointing stuff out replied with this 2 weeks ago, 33 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,123
@previous (H)
I think the real reason is mostly uneducated working class whites looking for an explanation as to why they’ve been left out of the modern economy and listening to wealthy politicians scapegoat minorities. The US is the world’s wealthiest country, and there are some very wealthy parts of America that are very safe and very clean, but then there are some places you go and it’s like what the hell the going on. There are smaller towns in the rust belt like that, or also West Virginia, if you go on YouTube and look up West Virginia, on some level, I think the racist whites are idiots and assholes, but they are sort of correct that they have been left behind. There’s a lot of wealth inequality and racism is a way to manipulate people’s psychology. A racist can go, "Elon Musk is the richest man in the world he’s sending rockets into space, he must be a genius, and I’m white too, wow I live in the best country." Instead of thinking, "I live in a trailer park, half my friends died from fentanyl overdoses, my state is being depopulated, I can’t afford college, and college graduates aren’t getting jobs, meanwhile Elon Musk is sending rockets into space."
I think the real reason is mostly uneducated working class whites looking for an explanation as to why they’ve been left out of the modern economy and listening to wealthy politicians scapegoat minorities. The US is the world’s wealthiest country, and there are some very wealthy parts of America that are very safe and very clean, but then there are some places you go and it’s like what the hell the going on. There are smaller towns in the rust belt like that, or also West Virginia, if you go on YouTube and look up West Virginia, on some level, I think the racist whites are idiots and assholes, but they are sort of correct that they have been left behind. There’s a lot of wealth inequality and racism is a way to manipulate people’s psychology. A racist can go, "Elon Musk is the richest man in the world he’s sending rockets into space, he must be a genius, and I’m white too, wow I live in the best country." Instead of thinking, "I live in a trailer park, half my friends died from fentanyl overdoses, my state is being depopulated, I can’t afford college, and college graduates aren’t getting jobs, meanwhile Elon Musk is sending rockets into space."
A black guy pointing stuff out double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,124
A black guy pointing stuff out triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,130
Basically: if you want to see poor blacks, go to the cities. If you want to see well off blacks, leave the cities. If you want to see well off whites, go to the cities. If you want to see poor whites, leave the cities.
A black guy pointing stuff out quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,132
It’s also why Trump was so big on the whole bowing up boats because of fentanyl, his voter base is mostly poor whited, and a lot of them are on fentanyl so it’s like a populist thing in a weird way.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,164
@1,431,123 (A black guy pointing stuff out)
People in the poorest parts of America have the legal privelege to move to the wealthy areas and find work.
There are homeless and working class very close to the places billionares live- the poorest zip code in New York state is adjacent to the its richest zip code.
No one is force fed fent, personal responsibility will protect you from the horrors of drug addiction.
College was cheap at one point, and it saw skyrocketing costs right after the government provided unlimited loans without a credit check. This is a problem entirely caused by leftist policies from the government. If we had never done that you could still pay for a degree with a summar job.
And you can't get a job with a college degree because the whole premise was based on the idea that since people with degrees made more money, we could just push more people through college and they'd make more money too. — This is fundamentally an error of confusing correlation with causation. Two groups of people went to college before: wealthy people, and very smart people. sometimes people were both. Wealthy people could study anything for fun, and go to family or their rich friends and find good work. Smart people could do many things too, even if they didn't have much money. But buying luxury products doesn't make you wealthy, it's the other way around. Going to a resort for 4 years won't make you wealthy. Just like luxury car owners make more money, but taking out a big auto loan is a terrible idea for a poor person. And when they got rid of the SATs so they could be inclusive it was no longer a place for smart people, it was just for anyone.
A poor idiot who goes into lifelong debt to read books available for free at the library is setting themselves up for failure. And all it would have taken to avoid all of that is for those students (or the idiot teachers who pushed them into college) was to learn the difference between correlation and causation!
People in the poorest parts of America have the legal privelege to move to the wealthy areas and find work.
There are homeless and working class very close to the places billionares live- the poorest zip code in New York state is adjacent to the its richest zip code.
No one is force fed fent, personal responsibility will protect you from the horrors of drug addiction.
College was cheap at one point, and it saw skyrocketing costs right after the government provided unlimited loans without a credit check. This is a problem entirely caused by leftist policies from the government. If we had never done that you could still pay for a degree with a summar job.
And you can't get a job with a college degree because the whole premise was based on the idea that since people with degrees made more money, we could just push more people through college and they'd make more money too. — This is fundamentally an error of confusing correlation with causation. Two groups of people went to college before: wealthy people, and very smart people. sometimes people were both. Wealthy people could study anything for fun, and go to family or their rich friends and find good work. Smart people could do many things too, even if they didn't have much money. But buying luxury products doesn't make you wealthy, it's the other way around. Going to a resort for 4 years won't make you wealthy. Just like luxury car owners make more money, but taking out a big auto loan is a terrible idea for a poor person. And when they got rid of the SATs so they could be inclusive it was no longer a place for smart people, it was just for anyone.
A poor idiot who goes into lifelong debt to read books available for free at the library is setting themselves up for failure. And all it would have taken to avoid all of that is for those students (or the idiot teachers who pushed them into college) was to learn the difference between correlation and causation!
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,212
@1,431,132 (A black guy pointing stuff out)
> It’s also why Trump was so big on the whole bowing up boats because of fentanyl, his voter base is mostly poor whited, and a lot of them are on fentanyl so it’s like a populist thing in a weird way.
Is that why the SPLC funded David Duke?
> It’s also why Trump was so big on the whole bowing up boats because of fentanyl, his voter base is mostly poor whited, and a lot of them are on fentanyl so it’s like a populist thing in a weird way.
Is that why the SPLC funded David Duke?
A black guy pointing stuff out joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,213
@1,431,164 (H)
I hear what you’re saying. On an individual level, the choices we make do matter. Although, humans are human, we’re not perfect, and at a societal level, you’re not dealing with millions of people who are all equally iron willed, you’re dealing with millions of average people. Most people are average in intelligence and in terms of willpower. So at a societal level, "just be personally responsible" isn’t a valid solution to fix the country. Unfortunately, I think there does have to be some kind of government solution to this. We can say that if you’re poor, just move to a city to find work to an individual, but you can’t tell every poor person in every small town in the entire United States to all move to the cities, because then they’ll run out of jobs in the cities. Everyone can’t be successful regardless of intelligence or willpower.
I hear what you’re saying. On an individual level, the choices we make do matter. Although, humans are human, we’re not perfect, and at a societal level, you’re not dealing with millions of people who are all equally iron willed, you’re dealing with millions of average people. Most people are average in intelligence and in terms of willpower. So at a societal level, "just be personally responsible" isn’t a valid solution to fix the country. Unfortunately, I think there does have to be some kind of government solution to this. We can say that if you’re poor, just move to a city to find work to an individual, but you can’t tell every poor person in every small town in the entire United States to all move to the cities, because then they’ll run out of jobs in the cities. Everyone can’t be successful regardless of intelligence or willpower.
A black guy pointing stuff out double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,214
@1,431,164 (H)
> And when they got rid of the SATs so they could be inclusive it was no longer a place for smart people, it was just for anyone.
Honestly, I studied for the SAT. I don’t think the SAT is that great honestly. It’s like basic algebra, but under time pressure. They’re all questions almost everyone could get right if you had as much time as you wanted to solve every problem, so it ends up being a test of how much you prepared for the SAT rather than how smart you are. It’s also not related to your field of study, there’s a math section and an English section and that’s it. If you’re going to study computer science for example, computer science does require discrete math and linear algebra… none of that is on the SAT. So it’s kinda pointless actually.
> And when they got rid of the SATs so they could be inclusive it was no longer a place for smart people, it was just for anyone.
Honestly, I studied for the SAT. I don’t think the SAT is that great honestly. It’s like basic algebra, but under time pressure. They’re all questions almost everyone could get right if you had as much time as you wanted to solve every problem, so it ends up being a test of how much you prepared for the SAT rather than how smart you are. It’s also not related to your field of study, there’s a math section and an English section and that’s it. If you’re going to study computer science for example, computer science does require discrete math and linear algebra… none of that is on the SAT. So it’s kinda pointless actually.
A black guy pointing stuff out triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,215
Then I think the issue that universities had with it is that the SAT is biased against poorer students since poorer students end up not being as prepared for the SAT because they can’t afford things like tutors and courses for it, and since schools are locally funded in America so poor neighborhoods tend to have bad schools. Then on top of that for historical reasons even though segregation doesn’t exist anymore, people tend to live in neighborhoods their ancestors lived in, which means neighborhoods are often still de-facto segregated by race, and that maps onto economic status, so you’re basically reinforcing a race based economic hierarchy if you only go based off of standardized testing. The real solution would be to fund schools at a state or a federal level rather than a local level, then everyone would get the same education everywhere, and this wouldn’t be a problem. But due to our two party system and the weaponization of this by politicians to try and pit blacks against whites or Asians against other minorities or whatever that doesn’t happen.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,216
@previous (A black guy pointing stuff out)
> Then I think the issue that universities had with it is that the SAT is biased against poorer students since poorer students end up not being as prepared for the SAT because they can’t afford things like tutors and courses for it, and since schools are locally funded in America so poor neighborhoods tend to have bad schools. Then on top of that for historical reasons even though segregation doesn’t exist anymore, people tend to live in neighborhoods their ancestors lived in, which means neighborhoods are often still de-facto segregated by race, and that maps onto economic status, so you’re basically reinforcing a race based economic hierarchy if you only go based off of standardized testing. The real solution would be to fund schools at a state or a federal level rather than a local level, then everyone would get the same education everywhere, and this wouldn’t be a problem. But due to our two party system and the weaponization of this by politicians to try and pit blacks against whites or Asians against other minorities or whatever that doesn’t happen.
Is that why the SPLC funded David Duke?
> Then I think the issue that universities had with it is that the SAT is biased against poorer students since poorer students end up not being as prepared for the SAT because they can’t afford things like tutors and courses for it, and since schools are locally funded in America so poor neighborhoods tend to have bad schools. Then on top of that for historical reasons even though segregation doesn’t exist anymore, people tend to live in neighborhoods their ancestors lived in, which means neighborhoods are often still de-facto segregated by race, and that maps onto economic status, so you’re basically reinforcing a race based economic hierarchy if you only go based off of standardized testing. The real solution would be to fund schools at a state or a federal level rather than a local level, then everyone would get the same education everywhere, and this wouldn’t be a problem. But due to our two party system and the weaponization of this by politicians to try and pit blacks against whites or Asians against other minorities or whatever that doesn’t happen.
Is that why the SPLC funded David Duke?
A black guy pointing stuff out replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,219
Then also with discrete math and linear algebra, the SAT tests students on polynomials, but polynomials are continuous functions, discrete math doesn’t deal with continuous functions, and linear algebra doesn’t deal with non-linear functions, so the math required for CS actually doesn’t really build on top of the math on the SAT. Or at least the only time linear algebra deals with polynomials is if you consider polynomials of some degree to be a vector space and you would use the coefficients to scale the basis vectors of that space, but the point of that isn’t really finding the vertex or the zeros.
A black guy pointing stuff out double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 16 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,220
A black guy pointing stuff out triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,223
@1,431,219 (A black guy pointing stuff out)
I guess technically the other time would be if you’re computing the eigenvalues of a matrix that’s more than a 2 by 2 matrix, because when you find the determinant, you’ll have to solve some polynomial for lambda… so I guess maybe I was wrong. The math on the SAT does matter, it’s just like, if you can remember the quadratic formula, you can survive. It’s not like if you don’t do well on the SAT that means you’re stupid and can never learn more advanced math, it probably means you had a bad education.
I guess technically the other time would be if you’re computing the eigenvalues of a matrix that’s more than a 2 by 2 matrix, because when you find the determinant, you’ll have to solve some polynomial for lambda… so I guess maybe I was wrong. The math on the SAT does matter, it’s just like, if you can remember the quadratic formula, you can survive. It’s not like if you don’t do well on the SAT that means you’re stupid and can never learn more advanced math, it probably means you had a bad education.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,225
@1,431,214 (A black guy pointing stuff out)
You're missing the point. It's a test of basic literacy and numeracy to make sure you are able to take any classes to begin with.
It's filtering out the completely unprepared.
They got rid of it so they could milk millions of regular people for $100,000+ in tuition each. Every dyslexic that struggles with long division qualifies for unlimited student loans.
You're missing the point. It's a test of basic literacy and numeracy to make sure you are able to take any classes to begin with.
It's filtering out the completely unprepared.
They got rid of it so they could milk millions of regular people for $100,000+ in tuition each. Every dyslexic that struggles with long division qualifies for unlimited student loans.
boof replied with this 2 weeks ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,234
COCK
A black guy pointing stuff out replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,242
@1,431,225 (H)
That’s not really how universities have been using the SAT if you look up what the average SAT score is at various universities. They accept people with the highest scores, not people with over a minimum score.
That’s not really how universities have been using the SAT if you look up what the average SAT score is at various universities. They accept people with the highest scores, not people with over a minimum score.
A black guy pointing stuff out double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,243
Not saying they couldn’t use it that way or it would be a bad idea to use it that way, I’m just pointing out they’re not doing it that way.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,431,247
@1,431,242 (A black guy pointing stuff out)
They should accept the people who are most prepared.
If they take people with lower scores than they otherwise could, they are going to either have a lot of make up work teaching them basic skills, or they will have students that get a lot less out of it because they can't pass basic literacy and numeracy tests.
They should accept the people who are most prepared.
If they take people with lower scores than they otherwise could, they are going to either have a lot of make up work teaching them basic skills, or they will have students that get a lot less out of it because they can't pass basic literacy and numeracy tests.
boof replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 days later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,432,714
this guy mentions some perspective that I have not heard otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcH8pX347NI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcH8pX347NI