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Topic: Why are liberals the way they are? This quote from the NPR CEO should make it clear.

Anonymous A started this discussion 4 weeks ago #134,179

Our reverence for the truth might be a distraction that is getting in the way of finding common ground and getting things done.

— Katherine Maher, CEO of NPR

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,429,227

I'm certain that the truth exists for you. And probably for the person sitting next to you. But this may not be the same truth.

— Katherine Maher, Big Time Retard

Hey, Kate! The word for that is perspective, not truth.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 32 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,228

@previous (A)

Oh okay, so you did know what she was talking about the entire time you typed this thread. Pretty disingenuous of you, isn't it?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 15 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,229

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
When you run a major news outlet you should know which word to use when talking about truth of all things.

White liberal women have a particularly hard time with the concept, constantly saying shit like "my truth". When one goes out in public and acts like she doesn't know the difference between perspective and truth it should be obvious that she's also unable to grasp the difference.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,230

@previous (A)

Even someone who is apparently her sworn enemy immediately recognises that her "my truth" is the same thing as "my perspective of the truth".

Which by the way is obvious from full content of the Ted Talk, which you have taken context-free snippets from in order to make this smear.

It's pretty ironic that the one positioning himself as some kind of defender of the truth is the one partaking in the kind of selective "truth telling" that she warns against in her speech, in the process proving her entirely correct and blowing up your own credibility.

Lucky you're anonymous bro, I don't think I would be able to live with people knowing I'd self owned to this extent.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,231

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> Even someone who is apparently her sworn enemy immediately recognises that her "my truth" is the same thing as "my perspective of the truth".

Yes, and the point I'm making is: why doesn't she use the correct word?

It's easy to dismiss it as a figure of speech, but with more and more women talking this way it just means we lose words for objective statements and only have subjective statements. In time liberals will attack the word objective itself. The point is newspeak that eliminates ways of expressing concepts that upset them.

That's fine for them because women inherently lack the ability to grasp an objective reality. It's fine for simps who don't care about language because it's another easy way to score points with the tribe.

> Lucky you're anonymous bro, I don't think I would be able to live with people knowing I'd self owned to this extent.

I know plenty of people in person who share my view.

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 27 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,232

Oh, misogyny.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,233

@previous (C)
Hating women is when you think the truth matters.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,234

All journalism should be women sharing their feelings! Anyone who disagrees hates women!

Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 4 weeks ago, 34 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,235

There's a consensus among liberals that if you think men and women are innately different in their cognitive ability that you must hate women.

What about if you think men and women have different physical abilities? There's an ongoing and heated discussion about that among liberals right now.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,236

@1,429,231 (A)

That's not your point at allx it's just what you're pivoting to now so you don't look stupid.

Anyway, the speech isn't about the readers perspective on facts but is about the harm of media outlets presenting a limited range of divisive facts and abusing those facts to build a wider narrative that only serves to drive people apart.

But you knew that already.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,238

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> That's not your point at allx it's just what you're pivoting to now so you don't look stupid.

What do you think my point was? Can you actually show it in my actual text?


> Anyway, the speech isn't about the readers perspective on facts but is about the harm of media outlets presenting a limited range of divisive facts and abusing those facts to build a wider narrative that only serves to drive people apart.

There's a way to communicate that and use the word truth correctly.

It's not a meaningless word choice, she's repeating a mistake many people in her demographic make constantly.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,240

@previous (A)

> Can you actually show it in my actual text?

You were too cowardly to actually state it and instead left it for inference

(That's my truth)

> It's not a meaningless word choic

You obviously understood it LMAO

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,241

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> >Can you actually show it in my actual text?
> You were too cowardly to actually state it and instead left it for inference

Oh, okay, so you made an assumption and now you are acting like that's my fault.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,242

libruls are basically just pale nigguhs, ripe for the booty poundin

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 31 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,246

I get that she wanted to use Wikipedia(maybe not the best example imo since it too can subjected to biases therefore perspective) to push her point combating in disinformation.

Truth should never have multiple perspectives. Its one and done.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,247

@1,429,241 (A)

I think the discussion didn't go the way you planned it so you take advantage of vagueries to pretend you were talking about something else all along. This way you can justify to yourself that you're always correct.

(That's my truth)

Anonymous E replied with this 4 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,248

It’s weird because it’s not always a reliable metric for accurate informationm but if the facts line up that make it hard to disagree with then cool. I’ll admit she reminds me of one my friends they both that same way talking in roundabouts by trying to walk you into their position.

Anonymous E double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,249

@1,429,247 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
What? I dont disagree with her. How she phrased it was a little weird tbh but I understood it.

(Edited 11 seconds later.)

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,250

@previous (E)

Take your meds, Anonymous E

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 45 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,251

@1,429,246 (E)

> Truth should never have multiple perspectives. Its one and done.

Considering perspectives to try and get closer to the truth is fine if they know the difference.

@1,429,247 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

If that was the actual issue you can ask clarifying questions instead of making assumptions, and then blaming others for your assumptions.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 27 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,252

@1,429,249 (E)

They were citing my post, not yours.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,253

@1,429,251 (A)

It's not my job to play endless whack a mole with anonymous retard. Let's talk more about how you knew what she was talking about all along. Pretty disingenuous, isn't it?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,254

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> It's not my job to play endless whack a mole with anonymous retard.

If you feel like it's a waste of time don't join the discussion to begin with.

If you actually want to participate, either respond to what's actually been said or ask clarifying questions so the other person actually gives you the quote.

> Let's talk more about how you knew what she was talking about all along. Pretty disingenuous, isn't it?

It's not disingenuous to point out that she used the wrong word.

(Edited 57 seconds later.)

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,256

@previous (A)

Bullshit! Your argument is that the phrase "my truth" reflects a broader problem with liberals undermining or confusing objective truth.

That apparently involves two claims 1. An ideological claim about attitudes towards objective truth and 2. A linguistic critique about the "wrong word".

Are you making both claims, or only one?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,258

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I'm saying #2 is the outward expression of #1.

White liberal women say "my truth" because they operate in a relativistic framework.

Women in general seek consensus, not truth.

Anonymous E replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,259

@1,429,253 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Settle down oat fag. I just woke up and hadn’t had my coffee. I’ll be more than willing to run a few mental fades.

Anonymous E double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,260

@1,429,254 (A)
It’s not wrong. She phrased the whole thing in such weird covert manner its almost as if she knew it didnt made sense. Not sure why it was hard for her to say perspectives or opinions because saying “my truth” just makes you sound stupid.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,261

@previous (E)

Fixing that would make it fine, but it's not a small mistake when she runs one of the largest news outlets in the country. And it's no coincidence that the news org that liberals prefer is the same one where the CEO doesn't understand what truth is.

Anonymous E replied with this 4 weeks ago, 44 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,262

The message was nice in sentiment but the excuetion was poor. Oatcucker9000 just wants to pretend they/them/it is intelligent.

Only thing I disagree with is the female narrative. I dont think it’s always the case “if you dont agree with x then you hate women!!” or some variation of that

Anonymous E double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,263

@1,429,261 (A)
Of course and I agree. it makes her look stupid which in turn makes NPR look bad.

Anonymous E triple-posted this 4 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,264

Truth is not subjective. It is objective. That’s what we call common sense. If universally agree on something regardless of bias/hangups. We cant say well my truth is that is the moon is made of cheese. Thats delusional.

(Edited 15 seconds later.)

Anonymous D replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,271

@1,429,263 (E)
not really, in fact it makes NPR look good. They do not care about their doubters and the heretics, theyve got their thralls and are putting on the show that is wanted and expected of them.

Not a black guy I wouldnt say joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,279

@1,429,258 (A)

> I'm saying #2 is the outward expression of #1.
>
> White liberal women say "my truth" because they operate in a relativistic framework.
>
> Women in general seek consensus, not truth.

What are your thoughts on reactive frameworks? Some people advocate for separation of concerns, some people just throw everything in one file like heathens.

Not a black guy I wouldnt say replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,291

@previous (Not a black guy I wouldnt say)
I believe we should go harder on raping nighuhs.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 16 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,299

@1,429,279 (Not a black guy I wouldnt say)
A smart developer uses modern tools, it's quicker and less buggy to have the framework handle it.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 4 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,341

@1,429,258 (A)

You’ve gone from a turn of phrase to a claim about relativism, and from there to claims about women’s cognitive traits.

Where’s the justification for any step in that chain?

Right now it’s just assertion stacked on assertion and I award you zero points, Homosexual A, and may God have mercy on your soul.

(Edited 9 seconds later.)

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,342

@1,429,259 (E)

I don't think that you not knowing the difference between the letters A and E can be pinned down to "not having my coffee"

Meta joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 17 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,343

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Get gay

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,345

@1,429,341 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> You’ve gone from a turn of phrase to a claim about relativism

I haven't gone from one to other, I said the first was indicative of the second. We've been over this.

> and from there to claims about women’s cognitive traits.
> Where’s the justification for any step in that chain?

Being unable to grasp the concept of an objective truth is inferior to being able to grasp it. This isn't complicated.

Meta replied with this 4 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,346

@previous (A)
I think oatmeal fucker has a point

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 30 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,349

@previous (Meta)
I concede.

GLaDOS joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,362

RAPING. NIGGUHS.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 47 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,376

@previous (GLaDOS)
Raping nigguhs?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,411

@1,429,345 (A)

You keep asserting the conclusion without establishing the premise.

"My truth" therefore "Can't grasp objective truth" is the entire argument, and you haven't justified that step at all.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,413

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

"Truth" takes the definite article because it refers to objectivity. If someone uses it subjectively that implies they don't understand the difference between subjective expressions and the concept of an objective reality.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,416

@previous (I)

You and A are making the same mistake by treating what you consider to be imperfect wording as proof of defective thinking.

You're making the same leaps, from how a word is used to what someone is capable of understanding, which doesn't follow.

Informal or rhetorical language isn't evidence of conceptual inability. By that standard, anyone who uses a metaphor doesn't understand the concepts they're talking about, which obviously isn't how language works.

What actually justifies that leap?

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,428

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Your words appear to disagree with OP, but technically speaking you could be a monkey on a typewriter or someone who refuses to turn off the sarcasm.

My truth is that you agree with OP and there is no deductive proof that you must be disagreeing.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,435

@previous (J)

Yeah but you're ugly and your shits all gay, so what are you gonna do?

(Edited 9 seconds later.)

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 11 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,508

@1,429,416 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> You and A are making the same mistake by treating what you consider to be imperfect wording as proof of defective thinking.
>
> You're making the same leaps, from how a word is used to what someone is capable of understanding, which doesn't follow.
>
> Informal or rhetorical language isn't evidence of conceptual inability. By that standard, anyone who uses a metaphor doesn't understand the concepts they're talking about, which obviously isn't how language works.
>
> What actually justifies that leap?

Simple. Everyone is right but you oatfuck. We’re all winners except you. We sleep nice and comfy at night while you sleep with a pillow thats warm on both sides.
Thats all the justification and thats all you’ll get for an answer.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,429,531

@previous (K)

You wish you had a pillow of your own, gayboy
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