Topic: Irish man tries to turn feces into gold.
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #13,415
The plan was to s!@# bricks -- gold bricks.
Paul Moran hatched a scheme to get rich quick by turning his own feces into gold, according to authorities in Northern Ireland. But like King Midas himself, Moran might have flushed his life down the drain in pursuit of his golden dreams.
Moran's attempts at alchemy crossed the line into arson when he set his apartment on fire after placing his feces on an electric heater, according to The Belfast Telegraph.
The 30-year-old resident of the town of Enniskillen reportedly caused nearly $4,800 in damages to his home.
Moran was charged with arson and endangering the lives of others. He was sentenced to three months in jail followed by one year on supervised release.
"Rather bizarrely you were attempting to make gold from human feces and waste products," the judge stated, according to The Belfast Telegraph. "It was an interesting experiment to fulfill the alchemist's dream, but wasn't going to succeed."
Moran's lawyer reportedly stated that his client is a smart man who has suffered from a drug problem.
Paul Moran hatched a scheme to get rich quick by turning his own feces into gold, according to authorities in Northern Ireland. But like King Midas himself, Moran might have flushed his life down the drain in pursuit of his golden dreams.
Moran's attempts at alchemy crossed the line into arson when he set his apartment on fire after placing his feces on an electric heater, according to The Belfast Telegraph.
The 30-year-old resident of the town of Enniskillen reportedly caused nearly $4,800 in damages to his home.
Moran was charged with arson and endangering the lives of others. He was sentenced to three months in jail followed by one year on supervised release.
"Rather bizarrely you were attempting to make gold from human feces and waste products," the judge stated, according to The Belfast Telegraph. "It was an interesting experiment to fulfill the alchemist's dream, but wasn't going to succeed."
Moran's lawyer reportedly stated that his client is a smart man who has suffered from a drug problem.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/21/paul-moran-tries-to-turn-feces-into-gold_n_1024363.html
Sup Handel.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later[^] [v] #240,645
why would they sent someone to jail for shitting on a radiatorAnonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #240,650
@previous (B)
> why would they sent someone to jail for shitting on a radiator
> why would they sent
> why would they sent someone to jail for shitting on a radiator
> why would they sent
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #240,651
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #240,660
Only in Ireland.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #240,682
@240,645 (B)
this. cool police state bro.
It wasn't arson, it was an accidental fire. Sending people to jail won't stop accidents. Another win for statism!
this. cool police state bro.
It wasn't arson, it was an accidental fire. Sending people to jail won't stop accidents. Another win for statism!
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #240,686
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #240,687
@240,682 (F)
tats wat i mean. if he forgot about some toast and it caught fire would they be prosecuting him? i doubt it. he burnt his house thats punishment enough. idiots
tats wat i mean. if he forgot about some toast and it caught fire would they be prosecuting him? i doubt it. he burnt his house thats punishment enough. idiots
marvin !H0G.H/BnJg replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #240,693
@previous (B)
I think forgetting toast is much more understandable. Putting shit on a heater is a pretty obvious risk don't you think?
I think forgetting toast is much more understandable. Putting shit on a heater is a pretty obvious risk don't you think?
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #240,696
marvin !H0G.H/BnJg replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #240,699
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,700
@240,686 (dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46)
No, it's nothing like that. He was trying to turn the feces into gold, meaning he wanted complete control over the entire process.
@240,687 (B)
exactly. why are they punishing him for burning his house down? the punishment is that his house burned down! it's retarded statist logic that implicitly replaces the deity with the state. temporal punishment (his house burning down) is not enough, he must meet divine retribution (by the state) for "justice" to truly be served.
No, it's nothing like that. He was trying to turn the feces into gold, meaning he wanted complete control over the entire process.
@240,687 (B)
exactly. why are they punishing him for burning his house down? the punishment is that his house burned down! it's retarded statist logic that implicitly replaces the deity with the state. temporal punishment (his house burning down) is not enough, he must meet divine retribution (by the state) for "justice" to truly be served.
Anonymous F double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,703
marvin !H0G.H/BnJg replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,704
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,710
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,711
He wasn't jailed for shitting on a radiator, trolls. It was for burning down his flat and endangering the lives of his neighbours. Learn to read. FFS.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,718
@previous (A)
He was jailed for accidentally burning down his flat. Nothing happened to his neighbors or their property.
He was jailed for accidentally burning down his flat. Nothing happened to his neighbors or their property.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,721
@previous (F)
Are you fucking retarded?
> endangering the lives of others
How do you not comprehend this?
Are you fucking retarded?
> endangering the lives of others
How do you not comprehend this?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,722
@previous (A)
> statist logic
> criminalizing drugs will make them go away
> criminalizing accidents will make them go away
> statist logic
> criminalizing drugs will make them go away
> criminalizing accidents will make them go away
marvin !H0G.H/BnJg replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,723
@240,711 (A)
The intent is part of the crime though. It matters if it was totally accidental or something that could be foreseen.
The intent is part of the crime though. It matters if it was totally accidental or something that could be foreseen.
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dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,724
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,728
@previous (dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46)
Except it is an accident. He was trying to turn feces into gold; not trying to burn his house down.
Except it is an accident. He was trying to turn feces into gold; not trying to burn his house down.
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,735
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,742
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,749
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,750
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 double-posted this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,752
why am i talking with some random idiot on the internet about getting gold from shit at 4 am
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,754
@240,742 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> legal fiction
> duty
> standard
eff off with your statist law bs please
> legal fiction
> duty
> standard
eff off with your statist law bs please
Anonymous F double-posted this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,759
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,763
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,764
@240,759 (F)
and since he didn't he set his house on fire and thus endangering others and his own lifes
and since he didn't he set his house on fire and thus endangering others and his own lifes
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,774
Anonymous F double-posted this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,775
@240,763 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Of course statists win, they are willing to commit theft and violence - even if only by proxy.
Of course statists win, they are willing to commit theft and violence - even if only by proxy.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,781
@previous (F)
> Of course
So just to be clear. I am unequivocally right and you are completely wrong. That is just what I wanted to hear.
> Of course
So just to be clear. I am unequivocally right and you are completely wrong. That is just what I wanted to hear.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,785
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No, I am arguing for an entirely new basis of law based - consent and contract.
No, I am arguing for an entirely new basis of law based - consent and contract.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,787
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,790
marvin !H0G.H/BnJg replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,791
@240,742 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I don't think that standard applies here though, the requirement is recklessness not negligence. i.e. that he knew of the risk, not that most people would.
I don't think that standard applies here though, the requirement is recklessness not negligence. i.e. that he knew of the risk, not that most people would.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,792
@240,790 (F)
So this is a victory for me then. I won the argument.
@previous (marvin !H0G.H/BnJg)
Ah, that might be. The standard seemed similar enough that I thought it was worth bringing up. My bad.
So this is a victory for me then. I won the argument.
@previous (marvin !H0G.H/BnJg)
Ah, that might be. The standard seemed similar enough that I thought it was worth bringing up. My bad.
marvin !H0G.H/BnJg replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,793
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No it's a good point, I just wanted to look it up for some reason.
No it's a good point, I just wanted to look it up for some reason.
sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,797
I don't think this would have worked.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 53 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,818
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,820
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,822
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No, your system, and you, for supporting it, with full knowledge of your system's evil, are evil.
No, your system, and you, for supporting it, with full knowledge of your system's evil, are evil.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,823
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,827
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,828
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,837
Why did he think this would work?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,839
Anonymous F double-posted this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,840
@240,828 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I won the argument that your system is evil and that you are evil for supporting it.
I won the argument that your system is evil and that you are evil for supporting it.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,843
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,853
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 39 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #240,866
hes obviously never heard of jenkem