Topic: Donald Trump is the first Muslim president!
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #134,066
Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116351998782539414
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 35 minutes later[^] [v] #1,428,422
Now I understand why MAGA hates the pope. The whole time MAGA was actually a radical Islamic movement and I just never knew.
Meta joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 21 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,424
@previous (B)JD Vance has a new book out about his conversion to Catholicism (🤮) so no, MAGAs will worship an old pedo faggot in a dress.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,427
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Meta replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,429
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,431
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,437
@1,428,424 (Meta)
> JD Vance has a new book out about his conversion to Catholicism (🤮) so no, MAGAs will worship an old pedo faggot in a dress.
TBH, I don’t think JD Vance likes Trump. He called Trump Hitler in the past, but changed his tune when he had the opportunity to be vice president. JD Vance is the vice president because he wants to be president.
> JD Vance has a new book out about his conversion to Catholicism (🤮) so no, MAGAs will worship an old pedo faggot in a dress.
TBH, I don’t think JD Vance likes Trump. He called Trump Hitler in the past, but changed his tune when he had the opportunity to be vice president. JD Vance is the vice president because he wants to be president.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,446
@1,428,424 (Meta)
The Trump administration is controlled by evangelicals, they wont let a Catholic be president.
Remember JFK?
The Trump administration is controlled by evangelicals, they wont let a Catholic be president.
Remember JFK?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 48 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,452
@previous (E)
Evangelicals are weirdos. I always introduce myself as Catholic instead of just saying I’m Christian so that nobody confuses me with them.
Evangelicals are weirdos. I always introduce myself as Catholic instead of just saying I’m Christian so that nobody confuses me with them.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,455
@previous (F)
You should introduce yourself as Catholic rather than Christian because you worship the Pope instead of Jesus.
You should introduce yourself as Catholic rather than Christian because you worship the Pope instead of Jesus.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,456
@previous (E)
You know, whenever anti Catholics criticized the Catholic Church, your criticisms would have a lot more weight if you actually knew anything about what Catholics actually believe instead of making false assertions I don’t related to all the time.
You know, whenever anti Catholics criticized the Catholic Church, your criticisms would have a lot more weight if you actually knew anything about what Catholics actually believe instead of making false assertions I don’t related to all the time.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,457
@previous (F)
> instead of making false assertions I don’t related to all the time.
A Bahai or Muslim is closer to a Christian than a Catholic.
> instead of making false assertions I don’t related to all the time.
A Bahai or Muslim is closer to a Christian than a Catholic.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,458
If you want to criticize the Catholic Church, there are real issues that I can respond to and have a conversation about, but just making stuff up that isn’t true it doesn’t mean anything.
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Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,460
@previous (F)
Why is it run by homosexuals who can't control themselves?
If you got caught at your last 3 postings, why not cut your losses?
Why is it run by homosexuals who can't control themselves?
If you got caught at your last 3 postings, why not cut your losses?
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,461
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 47 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,462
@previous (F)
They move priests around after they are accused of diddling. Do you read the Boston Globe?
They move priests around after they are accused of diddling. Do you read the Boston Globe?
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,463
@previous (E)
Obviously I know about that. Not all priests are good people. That is separate from my opinion of the organization as a whole which is separate from my faith in God.
Obviously I know about that. Not all priests are good people. That is separate from my opinion of the organization as a whole which is separate from my faith in God.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,465
@previous (F)
The organization as a whole decided to protect the priests and move them to new locations.
When the whole system is feeding little boys to gross old men, it's certain they are not following christ. They are pope worshippers who but their compassion for children to the side to practice their sick religion.
The organization as a whole decided to protect the priests and move them to new locations.
When the whole system is feeding little boys to gross old men, it's certain they are not following christ. They are pope worshippers who but their compassion for children to the side to practice their sick religion.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,466
@previous (E)
If that’s how you feel about it, then that’s how you feel about it. From my perspective, I think there is a lot more evil in the world than people realize. There is no large organization of people that doesn’t have issues, you simply don’t know about what else is going on. This isn’t unique to religion. Of course it does happen.
If that’s how you feel about it, then that’s how you feel about it. From my perspective, I think there is a lot more evil in the world than people realize. There is no large organization of people that doesn’t have issues, you simply don’t know about what else is going on. This isn’t unique to religion. Of course it does happen.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,467
@previous (F)
You should become a criminal attourney, there's a lot of diddlers out there with money.
You should become a criminal attourney, there's a lot of diddlers out there with money.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,469
@previous (E)
Catholics believe that all humans are born with sin, except for Jesus and Mary who were born without sin. Every child who is born is born with the potential for good and evil. God gave us free will, and as long as there are people, there will be good and evil.
Catholics believe that all humans are born with sin, except for Jesus and Mary who were born without sin. Every child who is born is born with the potential for good and evil. God gave us free will, and as long as there are people, there will be good and evil.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,471
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,472
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,474
@previous (F)
That doesn't change the fact the organization knowingly protects pedophiles and gives them new posts to molest at.
That doesn't change the fact the organization knowingly protects pedophiles and gives them new posts to molest at.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,475
@previous (E)
Obviously there are people who are bad people and some of those people are a part of the church.
Obviously there are people who are bad people and some of those people are a part of the church.
Anonymous F double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,476
The Catholic Church is a global organization, and the global organization is made up of people. It makes sense to punish bad people for doing bad things. However, a religion is an idea, and a church is a group of people who believe in that idea. Since the church is a sovereign nation, there isn’t a higher authority that can censor the idea of Catholicism or prevent the people who make up the church from acting together as one organization.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,477
@1,428,475 (F)
That's really clever, just keep pretending that this is about a few bad apples.
Church leadership is systematically loosing these predators on new parishes that do not know about their history.
That's really clever, just keep pretending that this is about a few bad apples.
Church leadership is systematically loosing these predators on new parishes that do not know about their history.
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Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,478
Even in countries that practice state atheism, it isn’t possible to ban religion completely. China tried, realized it was impossible, made their own state controlled version of the Catholic Church, but then eventually they made a deal with the Vatican so that the pope can get rid of bishops in China if they do things that are against standards like getting married and that sort of thing.
Anonymous F double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,479
@1,428,477 (E)
It doesn’t really matter if it is a few bad apples or if it isn’t, Catholicism is just an idea and the Catholic Church is just a group of people who believe in the idea. It doesn’t make any sense to say that people can’t believe in an idea because some of the people who claim to believe in it are bad people.
It doesn’t really matter if it is a few bad apples or if it isn’t, Catholicism is just an idea and the Catholic Church is just a group of people who believe in the idea. It doesn’t make any sense to say that people can’t believe in an idea because some of the people who claim to believe in it are bad people.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 56 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,480
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,481
@previous (E)
Well, what are you saying exactly? There are Catholics who have done bad things. I agree with that. There are Catholics who have held high ranking positions in the Catholic Church who have done bad things. I agree with that.
What’s the disagreement? It can’t be anything other than that you don’t think the organization should exist, but people have freedom of association.
Well, what are you saying exactly? There are Catholics who have done bad things. I agree with that. There are Catholics who have held high ranking positions in the Catholic Church who have done bad things. I agree with that.
What’s the disagreement? It can’t be anything other than that you don’t think the organization should exist, but people have freedom of association.
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Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,482
@1,428,479 (F)
No, the Catholic church is a heirarchical organization with authorities that make decisions about how to handle priests that break the law and hurt people.
It's not just some informal group of people who happen to have a common interest lol. Accountability means removing leadership that continuously helped pedophiles reoffend.
No, the Catholic church is a heirarchical organization with authorities that make decisions about how to handle priests that break the law and hurt people.
It's not just some informal group of people who happen to have a common interest lol. Accountability means removing leadership that continuously helped pedophiles reoffend.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,483
@1,428,481 (F)
I'm saying that one church, the organized crime network that registers itself as the Roman Catholic Church be banned because faith isn't an excuse for a pedophile ring maintained by church leadership.
I'm saying that one church, the organized crime network that registers itself as the Roman Catholic Church be banned because faith isn't an excuse for a pedophile ring maintained by church leadership.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 14 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,484
@1,428,482 (E)
People can be replaced, and I don’t disagree with that. However, the leadership in the Vatican is outside the jurisdiction of any country.
People can be replaced, and I don’t disagree with that. However, the leadership in the Vatican is outside the jurisdiction of any country.
Anonymous F double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 44 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,485
It wasn’t always that way, Mussolini was an atheist, but if you look into it, it’s kind of his fault.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 46 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,486
@1,428,484 (F)
The Vatican is not truly sovereign, and completely relies upon Italy for protection.
Italy could shut down the organize criminal pedophile organization, but they simply choose not to.
The Vatican is not truly sovereign, and completely relies upon Italy for protection.
Italy could shut down the organize criminal pedophile organization, but they simply choose not to.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,487
@previous (E)
The Catholic Church isn’t a criminal organization, it’s a religion that’s older than the modern state of Italy, and Italy can’t ban a religion, because Italy is a democracy, and because the Catholic Church is older than the modern Italian nation state. The reason why the Catholic Church is a country is because during World War Two, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy signed treaties with the Vatican because even though Hitler and Mussolini were both authoritarians who didn’t like the Catholic Church, they recognized that it would be politically suicidal to go against the church because of its place in western society.
The Catholic Church isn’t a criminal organization, it’s a religion that’s older than the modern state of Italy, and Italy can’t ban a religion, because Italy is a democracy, and because the Catholic Church is older than the modern Italian nation state. The reason why the Catholic Church is a country is because during World War Two, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy signed treaties with the Vatican because even though Hitler and Mussolini were both authoritarians who didn’t like the Catholic Church, they recognized that it would be politically suicidal to go against the church because of its place in western society.
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Anonymous F double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 32 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,488
One of those treaties is the reason why the Vatican is no longer legally considered to be a part of Italy and instead is a sovereign nation.
Anonymous F triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,489
Because, you have to think about it this way, if Italy tried to ban the church, and there are 1.4 billion Catholics in the world, that would cause a lot of diplomatic issues for Italy. Then on top of that, I would imagine a lot of people in the Italian government probably like the soft power that Italy has from the Vatican being located inside of Rome regardless of whether they genuinely believe in Catholicism or not.
Anonymous F quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,490
In a way the fact that the Vatican isn’t part of Italy is actually a good thing because it encourages the separation of church and state. The Catholic Church isn’t as powerful as it was in the past, but if the church is its own country, that doesn’t give the church an incentive to try to control Italian politics (in the past, the pope did directly control parts of Italy as a governing authority).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States
Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,491
@1,428,487 (F)
> The Catholic Church isn’t a criminal organization, it’s a religion
Assisting sex offenders is a crime, and Catholicism doesn't believe in Sola Scriptura, they believe in the keys.
> The Catholic Church isn’t a criminal organization, it’s a religion
Assisting sex offenders is a crime, and Catholicism doesn't believe in Sola Scriptura, they believe in the keys.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,492
@1,428,486 (E)
> The Vatican is not truly sovereign, and completely relies upon Italy for protection.
Technically Italy and the Swiss military.
> The Vatican is not truly sovereign, and completely relies upon Italy for protection.
Technically Italy and the Swiss military.
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Anonymous E replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,493
@previous (F)
> Also Italy technically isn’t entirely responsible for the defense of the Vatican, the Vatican has a long tradition of being guarded by Swiss soldiers.
The Swiss Guard are not repelling foreign armies, they rely on Italy. At any time Italy could annex the Vatican and protect the virtue of millions of innocent boys.
> Also Italy technically isn’t entirely responsible for the defense of the Vatican, the Vatican has a long tradition of being guarded by Swiss soldiers.
The Swiss Guard are not repelling foreign armies, they rely on Italy. At any time Italy could annex the Vatican and protect the virtue of millions of innocent boys.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,494
@previous (E)
That would be in violation of international law… also they’re not going to do it for all the reasons I already laid out.
That would be in violation of international law… also they’re not going to do it for all the reasons I already laid out.
Anonymous F double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,495
Given the track record of the church, it’s more likely that the Vatican will exist longer than the nation of Italy does. The Catholic Church is an institution that has existed continuously since the Roman Empire.
Anonymous F triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,496
Which, by the way, before the Edict of Milan, Christianity was illegal in the Roman Empire, but the Catholic Church still operated in the Roman Empire while Christianity was illegal. The idea that you could get rid of the Catholic Church doesn’t really make sense. Religions are one of the hardest things to get rid of. Your entire argument is based around collective punishment, but it just seems irrational to me.
Anonymous F quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,428,497
Also the whole thing about invasion, Muslim conquerors did raid the Vatican, but never successfully got rid of it. You can’t get rid of an idea.