Topic: Wind energy is a net harm and not renewable at all
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 month ago #133,842
It's Newtons laws of motion.
When wind hits a turnine blade it moves the turbine from the energy transfer. The wind doesn't continue along, it has lost its movement.
Eventually the air will be still everywhere, your windmill will be worthless, and the gentle breeze you took for granted will be gone forever.
Those run 24/7 and I can already tell how bad it is. In the 80s the wind was much stronger.
When wind hits a turnine blade it moves the turbine from the energy transfer. The wind doesn't continue along, it has lost its movement.
Eventually the air will be still everywhere, your windmill will be worthless, and the gentle breeze you took for granted will be gone forever.
Those run 24/7 and I can already tell how bad it is. In the 80s the wind was much stronger.
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 hours later[^] [v] #1,426,065
The long shadows they cast hurt the farms in my town, but liberals apparently don't understand PLANTS NEED SUNLIGHT.
These idiots will destroy the world if they aren't stopped.
These idiots will destroy the world if they aren't stopped.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,066
@OP
Wind exists because heat from the sun causes the Earth’s atmosphere to expand leading to pressure differentials.
@previous (B)
The sun doesn’t stay in the same place in the sky and shadows don’t stay still either.
Wind exists because heat from the sun causes the Earth’s atmosphere to expand leading to pressure differentials.
@previous (B)
The sun doesn’t stay in the same place in the sky and shadows don’t stay still either.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,067
Anonymous C replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,069
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,070
@1,426,066 (C)
Block hundreds of square feet of light constantly and that hurts crop growth, even if the shadow is moving with the sun because it's always blocking the light somewhere.
Talk to someone who lives near one of these, no one wants it. It would not surprise me if they take the poles down once the family farms have sold the land to a factory farm...
Block hundreds of square feet of light constantly and that hurts crop growth, even if the shadow is moving with the sun because it's always blocking the light somewhere.
Talk to someone who lives near one of these, no one wants it. It would not surprise me if they take the poles down once the family farms have sold the land to a factory farm...
Anonymous C replied with this 1 month ago, 53 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,071
Anonymous C double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,072
Farmers in the US would actually make more money if they produced less food because when there’s a surplus of food that drives down the price. There are a lot of countries in Africa that have pretty substantial populations and far less farmland. The United States and Europe have too much industrialized farming using every square inch of land for farming which is bad for the environment and ironically bad for farmers.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,074
Anonymous C replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,075
@previous (B)
There’s no way you’re being serious. If your entire farm is blocked by a skinny windmill you must have a pretty tiny farm.
There’s no way you’re being serious. If your entire farm is blocked by a skinny windmill you must have a pretty tiny farm.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 15 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,076
@1,426,072 (C)
> Farmers in the US would actually make more money if they produced less food because when there’s a surplus of food that drives down the price.
No business operates this way. Scarcity increases prices, but that is only profitable if your competition reduces output and you keep it up.
OPEC has tried this and individual members have to be monitored so they don't secretly keep their production high.
> Farmers in the US would actually make more money if they produced less food because when there’s a surplus of food that drives down the price.
No business operates this way. Scarcity increases prices, but that is only profitable if your competition reduces output and you keep it up.
OPEC has tried this and individual members have to be monitored so they don't secretly keep their production high.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,077
@previous (B)
Yeah, have you ever noticed the most common crop grown in the US is corn? Nobody eats that much corn. It’s subsidized by the federal government. All these farms aren’t actually economically productive, it’s a form of socialism.
Yeah, have you ever noticed the most common crop grown in the US is corn? Nobody eats that much corn. It’s subsidized by the federal government. All these farms aren’t actually economically productive, it’s a form of socialism.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,078
@1,426,075 (C)
The shadows don't need to block the entire farm. Multiple windmills will block the light and it sweeps across the farm. That adds up every day and crops end can end up getting an hour less of sunlight each day which suppresses growth.
The shadows don't need to block the entire farm. Multiple windmills will block the light and it sweeps across the farm. That adds up every day and crops end can end up getting an hour less of sunlight each day which suppresses growth.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,079
@previous (B)
So? We have a surplus of food and the most common crop is subsidized by the federal government, and most people don’t live on farms out in the country. Most people live in cities, we produce more food than we need, and the most common crop we produce isn’t even eaten for the most part it’s just a government welfare program disguised as something else. Nobody cares about wind farms blocking light.
So? We have a surplus of food and the most common crop is subsidized by the federal government, and most people don’t live on farms out in the country. Most people live in cities, we produce more food than we need, and the most common crop we produce isn’t even eaten for the most part it’s just a government welfare program disguised as something else. Nobody cares about wind farms blocking light.
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Anonymous C double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,080
If you drive across America, you’ll see hundreds and hundreds of miles of corn. Nobody’s eating hundreds and hundreds of miles of corn.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 21 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,081
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,082
Anonymous C replied with this 1 month ago, 54 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,083
@1,426,081 (B)
I didn’t say anything lacking compassion, I’m just telling the truth, which is this is a problem that doesn’t affect anything at all on a macro level, and in a country like the US, if you have a problem that doesn’t affect anything at all on a macro level nobody will care or do anything about it.
I didn’t say anything lacking compassion, I’m just telling the truth, which is this is a problem that doesn’t affect anything at all on a macro level, and in a country like the US, if you have a problem that doesn’t affect anything at all on a macro level nobody will care or do anything about it.
Anonymous C double-posted this 1 month ago, 31 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,084
@1,426,082 (A)
I am a "real American" my ancestors probably lived here longer than yours, but whatever.
I am a "real American" my ancestors probably lived here longer than yours, but whatever.
Anonymous C triple-posted this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,085
I have ancestors who were here before the US was founded, I have ancestors who fought in the American civil war, and I have ancestors who fought in World War Two. But whatever! Because you’re a racist none of that matters, you’re just an ungrateful unpatriotic shithead who only cares about yourself.
+Syntax !AT4qCO/n0Y joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,086
@OP
> It's Newtons laws of motion.
>
> When wind hits a turnine blade it moves the turbine from the energy transfer. The wind doesn't continue along, it has lost its movement.
>
> Eventually the air will be still everywhere, your windmill will be worthless, and the gentle breeze you took for granted will be gone forever.
>
> Those run 24/7 and I can already tell how bad it is. In the 80s the wind was much stronger.
"It accounts for about 5% of global and 10% of U.S. electricity, providing a low-cost, emission-free alternative to fossil fuels. Key challenges include intermittency, impact on wildlife, and aesthetic concerns"
10% IS a good start and of course Trump favors Smog from fossil fuels - Does take some getting used to re the aesthetic issue. Fact is one day Fossil fuel will be Kaput. Time for Helium 3 AND NASA plans on using it on the moon to power EVERYTHING as Solar panels ain't going to cut it on the dark side of the moon.
> It's Newtons laws of motion.
>
> When wind hits a turnine blade it moves the turbine from the energy transfer. The wind doesn't continue along, it has lost its movement.
>
> Eventually the air will be still everywhere, your windmill will be worthless, and the gentle breeze you took for granted will be gone forever.
>
> Those run 24/7 and I can already tell how bad it is. In the 80s the wind was much stronger.
"It accounts for about 5% of global and 10% of U.S. electricity, providing a low-cost, emission-free alternative to fossil fuels. Key challenges include intermittency, impact on wildlife, and aesthetic concerns"
10% IS a good start and of course Trump favors Smog from fossil fuels - Does take some getting used to re the aesthetic issue. Fact is one day Fossil fuel will be Kaput. Time for Helium 3 AND NASA plans on using it on the moon to power EVERYTHING as Solar panels ain't going to cut it on the dark side of the moon.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,090
@1,426,066 (C)
Daytime is 7-15 hours, depending on the season, with another variation depending on the local climate and weather. and first and last two hours are not full strength. A giant windmill can possibly throw a plot of land into shadow as much as three hours of prime sunlight. The following only assumes a single windmill witch is probably not realistic but simplfies calculations to the level of effort that minichan merits.
full sun plants will very possibly not get enough light to produce a good crop under these conditions, even if they get just enough light for the stem and leaves to grow.
partial sun plants can still get too much light if relying on a windmill shadow.
Daytime is 7-15 hours, depending on the season, with another variation depending on the local climate and weather. and first and last two hours are not full strength. A giant windmill can possibly throw a plot of land into shadow as much as three hours of prime sunlight. The following only assumes a single windmill witch is probably not realistic but simplfies calculations to the level of effort that minichan merits.
full sun plants will very possibly not get enough light to produce a good crop under these conditions, even if they get just enough light for the stem and leaves to grow.
partial sun plants can still get too much light if relying on a windmill shadow.
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Anonymous E double-posted this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,091
@1,426,086 (+Syntax !AT4qCO/n0Y)
fossil fuels are by far the best option as it has the best yield to drawback ratio. additionally the "green" energy scams are typically dependent on fossil fuels anyway, so you get the drawback without the benefit.
fossil fuels are by far the best option as it has the best yield to drawback ratio. additionally the "green" energy scams are typically dependent on fossil fuels anyway, so you get the drawback without the benefit.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 44 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,096
Eventually the wind stops blowing. Then what do you do? This isn’t Holland in the Middle Ages. A modern society can’t persist on wind that isn’t always blowing! Plus wind dissipates and isn’t captured in a bag or something.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 23 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,101
@previous (F)
Batteries exist.
@1,426,091 (E)
> fossil fuels are by far the best option as it has the best yield to drawback ratio. additionally the "green" energy scams are typically dependent on fossil fuels anyway, so you get the drawback without the benefit.
Nuclear power plants exist.
These are all such low IQ arguments.
Batteries exist.
@1,426,091 (E)
> fossil fuels are by far the best option as it has the best yield to drawback ratio. additionally the "green" energy scams are typically dependent on fossil fuels anyway, so you get the drawback without the benefit.
Nuclear power plants exist.
These are all such low IQ arguments.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,105
@1,426,091 (E)
Carbon is the building block of life. The more carbon that is liberated the more plants and animals can naturally capture it and life will flourish.
@1,426,096 (F)
Holland is a bellweather for destructive forces. If they started promoting something I start avoiding it.
Carbon is the building block of life. The more carbon that is liberated the more plants and animals can naturally capture it and life will flourish.
@1,426,096 (F)
Holland is a bellweather for destructive forces. If they started promoting something I start avoiding it.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,129
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@1,426,101 (G)
> Batteries exist.
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> > fossil fuels are by far the best option as it has the best yield to drawback ratio. additionally the "green" energy scams are typically dependent on fossil fuels anyway, so you get the drawback without the benefit.
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> Nuclear power plants exist.
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> These are all such low IQ arguments.
Nuclear power can run for thousands of years. A windmill stops working without wind.
> Batteries exist.
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> > fossil fuels are by far the best option as it has the best yield to drawback ratio. additionally the "green" energy scams are typically dependent on fossil fuels anyway, so you get the drawback without the benefit.
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> Nuclear power plants exist.
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> These are all such low IQ arguments.
Nuclear power can run for thousands of years. A windmill stops working without wind.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,222
Anonymous D replied with this 1 month ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,266
@1,426,096 (F)
> Eventually the wind stops blowing. Then what do you do? This isn’t Holland in the Middle Ages. A modern society can’t persist on wind that isn’t always blowing! Plus wind dissipates and isn’t captured in a bag or something.
EVENTUALLY Fossil Fuel runs OUT. Gone Kaput. Then what will people do? Wind + Solar conversion as with panels with better conversion rate. Helium3 - New inventions like...
> Eventually the wind stops blowing. Then what do you do? This isn’t Holland in the Middle Ages. A modern society can’t persist on wind that isn’t always blowing! Plus wind dissipates and isn’t captured in a bag or something.
EVENTUALLY Fossil Fuel runs OUT. Gone Kaput. Then what will people do? Wind + Solar conversion as with panels with better conversion rate. Helium3 - New inventions like...
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,274
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,293
Sun dies in a billion years; not renewable
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,305
@previous (H)
Anti-nuclear hippies will point to solar power if that isn't nuclear with an extra step.
Anti-nuclear hippies will point to solar power if that isn't nuclear with an extra step.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,309
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 36 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,314
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
This has already been addressed, there's still a shadow over the crops that reduces their exposure to sunlight.
Just because they eventually get sunlight again doesn't change the fact that they have less of it overall.
What point do you think your making by saying the sun moves across the sky? How does that change anything that's been said?
This has already been addressed, there's still a shadow over the crops that reduces their exposure to sunlight.
Just because they eventually get sunlight again doesn't change the fact that they have less of it overall.
What point do you think your making by saying the sun moves across the sky? How does that change anything that's been said?
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,336
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,338
Raping nigguhs on top a wind turbine!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,358
@1,426,336 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Would you live in a house that had the oxygen sucked out of it for a few hours a day? The windows get opened after letting in fresh air after.
Would you live in a house that had the oxygen sucked out of it for a few hours a day? The windows get opened after letting in fresh air after.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,713
@1,426,133 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)im sure if you keep trying you can grow food on five centimeters of dirt on top of the cardboard!
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 12 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,866
@previous (E)
People clowned on the cardboard but actually revealed their ignorance because it's what you're supposed to do.
The notion of a garden in CHAZ was quite fanciful because it obviously wasn't going to last a whole season
People clowned on the cardboard but actually revealed their ignorance because it's what you're supposed to do.
The notion of a garden in CHAZ was quite fanciful because it obviously wasn't going to last a whole season
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 9 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,426,928
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
> People clowned on the cardboard
nope, They clowned on the fact that the chazholes thought a long term project could produce food immediately and with enough volume to sustain a whole city block.
> actually revealed their ignorance because it's what you're supposed to do.
what they have is not even the bare minimum to do that technique. also they left it in that state until it got cleaned up by the police.
> People clowned on the cardboard
nope, They clowned on the fact that the chazholes thought a long term project could produce food immediately and with enough volume to sustain a whole city block.
> actually revealed their ignorance because it's what you're supposed to do.
what they have is not even the bare minimum to do that technique. also they left it in that state until it got cleaned up by the police.
Lady D !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 day later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,427,208
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@previous (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
Yes, you don't remember the strong gusts of the 80s.
Link: @1,427,208 (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
Yes, you don't remember the strong gusts of the 80s.
Link: @1,427,208 (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
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@1,427,386 (A)
I wouldn't, but I also have noticed the wind increasing in my home town between the 90's and now, so what's your more concrete proof?
I wouldn't, but I also have noticed the wind increasing in my home town between the 90's and now, so what's your more concrete proof?