Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,425,102
@previous (A)
I won't. It's just some deaths are funnier than others. You, as one of the faggots cheering when Charlie Kirk got shot, should know that better than anyone!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 28 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,425,103
The thing about Catholicism doesn’t really make sense since Jesus founded the Catholic Church. If you think Catholics go to Hell then you must not be a Christian since every other Christian church broke off from the original Catholic Church.
> I won't. It's just some deaths are funnier than others. You, as one of the faggots cheering when Charlie Kirk got shot, should know that better than anyone!
I don’t laugh when Charlie Kirk was shot, I just didn’t care because he’s not relevant.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,425,105
I mean, Charlie Kirk’s entire legacy in this world is "guy who supported Trump" and literally nothing else. Imagine if somebody’s legacy was "guy who supporter Bill Clinton." In 15 years, nobody will care, and the next generation of kids growing up won’t know who the hell he was.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,425,106
Charlie Kirk was popular during Covid, his videos kept getting recommended to me in 2020, but he fell off in 2021 and I completely stopped getting him recommended to me on YouTube and I almost forgot about him until I saw he was shot.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,425,108
Honestly my entire opinion on this is I think celebrating death is gross, and of all people Donald Trump shouldn’t do it because he knows he’s controversial and he knows he’s at the end of his life, so people will remember this and bring it up when he does die.
Anonymous A (OP) sextuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,425,110
Like Charlie Kirk for example, some people were happy that he died because he supported Trump. When Trump dies do you think it will be better or worse? And I don’t believe in celebrating anybody’s death, it’s disgusting, but I’m not stupid, it’s obvious what will happen.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,425,119
@1,425,112 (C)
I’m a Christian and I agree with the Bible here. However, even an atheist should be able to recognize that old people tend to die and Trump isn’t much younger than Mueller.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 42 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,127
@1,425,103 (A)
Wrong. The Catholic church started when the patriarch of Rome broke from the other 4 patriarchs and attempted to unilatterally declare himself the head.
The rest of the church continued on and became known as "orthodox" after this happened.
> Wrong. The Catholic church started when the patriarch of Rome broke from the other 4 patriarchs and attempted to unilatterally declare himself the head.
The bishop of Rome always had primacy over the church.
"And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it."
Anonymous I triple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,132
This is a more in-depth explanation of what Jesus said:
You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church: the Aramaic word kēpā’ meaning rock and transliterated into Greek as Kēphas is the name by which Peter is called in the Pauline letters (1 Cor 1:12; 3:22; 9:5; 15:4; Gal 1:18; 2:9, 11, 14) except in Gal 2:7–8 (“Peter”). It is translated as Petros (“Peter”) in Jn 1:42. The presumed original Aramaic of Jesus’ statement would have been, in English, “You are the Rock (Kēpā’) and upon this rock (kēpā’) I will build my church.” The Greek text probably means the same, for the difference in gender between the masculine noun petros, the disciple’s new name, and the feminine noun petra (rock) may be due simply to the unsuitability of using a feminine noun as the proper name of a male. Although the two words were generally used with slightly different nuances, they were also used interchangeably with the same meaning, “rock.” Church: this word (Greek ekklēsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesus’ church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God. The gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it: the netherworld (Greek Hadēs, the abode of the dead) is conceived of as a walled city whose gates will not close in upon the church of Jesus, i.e., it will not be overcome by the power of death.
Essentially, Peter was the first pope. Peter means rock, and Jesus said that Peter would be the rock on which he would build the Christian church and that "the netherworld” (Satan) would not prevail against this church. Peter was the first pope, and the Catholic Church remains the largest domination of Christianity.
Anonymous I quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,134
That’s also why Catholics say that Jesus founded the Catholic Church, because he did. He decided to build his church upon Peter, and Peter was the first pope.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,140
@previous (G)
Peter is the rock on which Jesus built his church, Peter was the first pope. Peter traveled to Rome and established the church that Jesus founded in Rome.
> > > > the Catholic Church remains the largest domination of Christianity. > > "Remains" is the wrong word here because when Rome broke from the true church they were a minority. Most of the church rejected the primacy of Rome. > > Later on the Catholic heresy did become bigger, yes.
"And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it."
Mt 16:18
Jesus said that the gates of the netherworld will not prevail against the church he built upon Peter. The church built upon Peter cannot refer to any church other than the Roman Catholic Church. In the Bible, Jesus says that the Roman Catholic Church will be victorious. Therefore, the Catholic Church is not heretical because that would contradict the assertion by Jesus that the church built upon Peter will prevail.
Anonymous I triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,146
In Orthodoxy, they try to say the bishop of Rome was considered "first among equals" which doesn’t make any sense because that’s like saying, that Rome was first but it wasn’t first, which is a contradiction. Jesus clearly said he would built his church upon Peter, so that’s not how I interpret it.
Anonymous I quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,147
If Jesus said that the netherworld won’t prevail against the church built upon Peter, which Jesus says is his church, the church belonging to Jesus, if we observe that in the present day, despite the great schism and the Protestant reformation, why is the Catholic Church the largest denomination of Christianity if Jesus is God and God is all powerful if he meant something other than that the Catholic Church was his church?
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,154
@previous (G)
Jesus is considered to be a prophet in Islam, so if Muhammad is a prophet, that doesn’t necessarily mean that Jesus isn’t. So if Islam is true, that doesn’t necessarily mean that Christianity isn’t true.
Anonymous J double-posted this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,155
Muslims believe that the Bible was corrupted and that’s why they hold the Quran above the Bible. However, just saying that the Bible is corrupted doesn’t necessarily tell you which details of the Bible are true and which ones are false. Then they assume that the Quran isn’t corrupted, which might not be the case. Which leads for several possibilities.
However, I’m not a Muslim, I’m a Catholic, so you should ask a Muslim about Islam not me.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,157
@previous (G)
I don’t believe that popularity is the criteria for which religion is correct, I believe that popularity is the criteria for which Christian Church is correct because I’m basing that off of what Jesus said.
Anonymous J triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,159
Jesus didn’t say that the Catholic Church will be the most popular church at every instance in time, he said that the church built on Peter will prevail. When you prevail over some adversity, that implies struggle, but victory in the end.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 8 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,190
@1,425,115 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
at least it happens, unlike opposite equivilent bluecry where the only thing of note is trannies resisting the call of the 41 club
Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 5 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,207
Satan has Robert Mueller in an ISIS cage suspended from the ceiling and he is currently lighting a big pile of unsold copies of the so-called Mueller “Report” on fire underneath it.
Anonymous M triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,250
In terms of size, no other denomination of Christianity comes anywhere close to the Catholic Church. The next largest denominations is almost 5 times smaller.
Anonymous M quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,251
It doesn’t make sense for any form of Protestantism to be true since Protestant churches were all founded by people other than Jesus. Orthodoxy and Catholicism were both part of the original Christian church founded by Jesus, but over centuries they diverged from each other. However, the pope was always the pope and the pope has primacy over the church so I believe that Catholicism is the original Christian church. And between Catholicism and any form of orthodoxy, the Catholic Church is far larger and remains fully unified and intact.
Anonymous M quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,252
My honest position is that if the Catholic Church isn’t true then there’s no point in Christianity at all since that was the original church so if Catholicism is false, so are all the other churches.
Anonymous M replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,258
There’s also John 21:12-19
Jesus said to them, “Come and have breakfast.” Now none of the disciples dared ask him, “Who are you?” They knew it was the Lord. 13 Jesus came and took the bread and gave it to them, and so with the fish. 14 This was now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after he was raised from the dead.
Jesus and Peter
15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” 16 A second time he said to him, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.” 17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” And he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep.[d] 18 Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you girded yourself and walked where you would; but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish to go.” 19 (This he said to show by what death he was to glorify God.) And after this he said to him, “Follow me.”
Either you can interpret that as Peter confessing that he loves Jesus more than the other disciples do, or you can interpret it that he loves Jesus more than he loves fish, but the second option seems a bit silly.
Well one of the problems with how you’re arguing is you’re just trying to argue against the Catholic Church, but you haven’t committed to arguing for any specific religion or denomination as the correct one. You’ve used arguments supporting Sunni Islam, Mormonism, and Orthodoxy, but all three of those things are incompatible with each other, so any argument for Orthodoxy isn’t an argument for Islam, an argument for Islam isn’t an argument for Mormonism and so on. I’m actually arguing for a thing. You’re just arguing for anything other than what I’m arguing for, which is inherently difficult to argue against since you can arbitrarily change your argument however it suits you whenever you feel like it since you have committed to nothing.
Anonymous M triple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,260
If you are someone who lacks faith, then I see no reason why you would feel the need to argue for Islam or Mormonism or Orthodoxy just to prove the Catholic Church wrong. However, if you are someone of a faith that is founded on its opposition to Catholicism, you should argue for your own faith instead of for faiths that you don’t believe in.
Anonymous M quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,261
In fact, Christianity is a faith, and Catholicism as a denomination of Christianity is also a faith and faith is incompatible with rationalism. You’re approaching faith from a rationalist perspective, so you can remain unsatisfied no matter what anyone says unless you have some emotional reason to agree with them.
Anonymous M quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,262
In fact, you mentioned Islam before, and in Islam you would have this same problem. You idea is that you can only believe in religion if it makes sense to you, but one of the core beliefs of Islam is that God is beyond human understanding, so if you’re not satisfied by Catholicism, you wouldn’t be even less satisfied by Islam, because at least Catholics believe that God can take on a physical human form.
Anonymous M sextuple-posted this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,425,263
And I think that one of the weakness of your "argument" (really they’re arguments not an argument), is that you try to gain ground in one area and then apply it to another area where it can’t possibly apply. For example, with popularity, if my justification is that Jesus said that he would build his church on Peter and I believe that the Catholic Church will be victorious, then you can’t apply that argument to Islam if Muslims believe that the Bible is corrupted so Muslims don’t necessarily believe that they can know whether Jesus really said that or not.
Anonymous M replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,270
@previous (Meta)
Your favorite word is faggot and you call everyone a faggot in almost every other post you write, so I will say you think about homosexuality a lot more than I do.
Anonymous M double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,273
I’m simply pointing out that I’ve never actually said anything gay and I never actually call people gay or start threads about gay people. But racists on here like you who don’t like me impersonate me and constantly say gay things. I didn’t call you gay, but I’m just saying, you seem to be more preoccupied with homosexuality than I am.
Anonymous M triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,274
Between me and you, I kind of doubt that God looks more highly upon you for being an immature, insecure, and impulsive white guy than at me for being black. God created black people, so if God had a problem with us, I don’t think that we would exist. The Bible doesn’t make any distinction there.
> Between me and you, I kind of doubt that God looks more highly upon you for being an immature, insecure, and impulsive white guy than at me for being black. God created black people, so if God had a problem with us, I don’t think that we would exist. The Bible doesn’t make any distinction there.
Not to mention, aren’t you fat? Isn’t gluttony a sin?
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,281
@1,425,259 (M)
No, I've taken your various criteria at each point and shown that it doesn't support the Roman Catholic church.
I'm not advocating for a specific religion, just pointing out the errors you made.
If you really believed those criteria mattered you would support (depending on which criteria you'd changed to at that given point): Orthodox, Sunni, or Mormon.
Of course the reason you kept awitching criteria is that you are working backwards. You start with the assumption Roman Catholic is correct and look for a criteria that backs it up. When it turns out not to, you shift the goal posts.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,284
@1,425,281 (G)
I’m a Roman Catholic. If I didn’t believe in what I was saying, I wouldn’t start from the position that the Roman Catholic Church is correct. I’m doing it that way because this is my religion and this is what I believe in. You just don’t like Catholicism for whatever reason so you want to argue that my religion is wrong. I don’t care if you’re Catholic or not, but no matter what you say I was born Catholic and I plan on dying Catholic.
Anonymous N quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,288
And the fact that you want to defend pedophilia of all things and openly hate women tracks with that. So the fact that you disagree with my faith only strengthens it.
Anonymous N sextuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,289
Now if you agreed with Catholicism, I’d be a little concerned since you’re a disgusting excuse for a human being and I’d want to know why. But since you disagree with it so strongly, I take that as a good sign.
Anonymous N septuple-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,290
Because also, how could I reconcile Catholicism with racism? There are Catholics in the US and Europe who are white, there are Catholics in the DRC who are black, and there are Catholics in the Philippines who are Asian.
Anonymous N octuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,291
Especially when it comes to morality, Jesus was for the poor, and I think that the church should be for the poor. Racism is based on the view that "oh look black people are poor, therefore they’re inferior and stupid and we should disrespect them and mistreat them." But if you look at what Jesus said, it’s the exact opposite.
Anonymous N nonuple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,292
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
Mt 19:23-24
Here Jesus suggests that it’s the poor not the rich who are more likely to enter heaven.
Anonymous N decuple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,293
Or take Mt 5:1-16
Introduction to the Sermon on the Mount
5 Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them.
The Beatitudes
He said:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Salt and Light
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Anonymous N undecuple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,294
You can’t make social Darwinism make sense under the words that Jesus spoke, because racism is satanic. It is against God. All humans were created in God’s image. If you say some humans are inferior, you’re suggesting that God himself is impure, which is direct hatred of God.
Anonymous N duodecuple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,295
Really, if you look at what Jesus said, why wouldn’t racists go to hell? What part of that suggests that people who believe that poverty is sinful and wealth is purity are in alignment with God? Racists want to conquer and kill and cause suffering for their own benefit in this life. But a true Christian believes that this life on Earth is only temporary and is a test, and that God will reward those of us who are selfless in this temporary life on Earth for eternity in Heaven.
Anonymous N tridecuple-posted this 1 month ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,296
Christianity gives you two options: you can suffer here like Christ for a short while and be rewarded in paradise forever or you can be selfish and greedy in this life and burn in hell forever.
Anonymous N quattuodecuple-posted this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,298
And honestly, if you really believe that your God is real and you’re a racist, then you don’t believe in God, because God is defined as a creator of the universe. If you have a God of white people, that God isn’t God.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,299
@1,425,123 (Thunder Balls !saAqdaazn2)
On that I agree. I dont agree with a lot of his policies BUT he's honest in who he is. Atp you cant hate a person for telling you who they are and what they're about.
He came in, lit fire under people's asses and the world's now shook. He gave them something to talk about and a reason to wake up and let go of idealistic bullshit.
Anonymous P triple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,307
I mean, Trump is a lot of things, but he’s not a fucking Christian. You can go see what his wife looks like naked on google. Do you know how embarrassing that is for our nation?
Anonymous P quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,308
Especially since it’s all a reaction to Obama since racist white people didn’t like that we had a black president. But Obama was so intelligent and professional and he had class. Trump is the king of inbred trailer trash. And trash really is the right word.
Meta joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,338
If Trump is a pedophile, I don’t have any problem with that. Pedophilia isn’t all that bad. I had sex with my parents when I was a kid and I turned out okay. Niggers are intolerant of white traditions.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,425,349
That ineffective and dry report showed massive Russian influence throughout the Trump campaign. Trump associates later were convicted, and pardoned by Trump, for crimes amounting to election interference and sedition.
Key associates convicted or who pleaded guilty include:
Paul Manafort: Trump's former campaign chairman was convicted of financial fraud and pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges related to his lobbying work and attempts to obstruct justice.
George Papadopoulos: A campaign foreign policy adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with people tied to Kremlin officials.
Roger Stone: A long-time Trump associate convicted of obstructing justice, witness tampering, and lying to Congress regarding his efforts to reach WikiLeaks regarding stolen Democratic emails.
Michael Flynn: Former National Security Advisor who pleaded guilty to making false statements regarding his discussions with the Russian ambassador.
Alex van der Zwaan: A lawyer who pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates.
Richard Pinedo: Pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge connected to Russian indictments.
> That’s exactly what I hate Trump for - who he is (a bad person). > And you know what? Trump said he doesn’t think anything will get him into heaven and I agree with Trump more strongly on that than any other issue. > I mean, Trump is a lot of things, but he’s not a fucking Christian. You can go see what his wife looks like naked on google. Do you know how embarrassing that is for our nation? > Especially since it’s all a reaction to Obama since racist white people didn’t like that we had a black president. But Obama was so intelligent and professional and he had class. Trump is the king of inbred trailer trash. And trash really is the right word. > Trump doesn’t even like that he’s white and all the white supremacist like him. Have you ever noticed that? He always has a face full of makeup. > JD Vance has eyeliner and these guys are talking about trans women all the time. It’s fucking embarrassing!
yeah..I'm starting to understand why democrats/liberals lost twice. it's that same tone deaf hypocrisy that cost them the support. You focus on whatever surface level shit and think that's a W.
Trump and MAGA has their retarded moments for sure and sure in the case of Obama; he didn't sit well with the tradcon white population. However its not just because hes mixed. its also the fact he used the Espionage Act more than all previous presidents combined to prosecute leakers. he was pro-Mass Surveillance. if it wasnt for snowden we'd still be in the dark about the whole thing.
Also he fucked up Cuba even further by giving their regime exactly what they wanted. look at the the supposedly leftist "activist" assholes that went over to cuba to "protest" which really just consists of staying in fancy hotels with full power and running water. Obama did that. he made it easy for Americans to go over there and "support" the Cuban people even though almost of the donated shit gets sold by Cuban gov to line their pockets while the rest of the population can go fuck off.
a lot of his polices were two-faced in nature. a quick google search can bring you a summarized list of all his controversial policies
not liking trump or talking about his hoe of a wife isn't the victory you think it is. I get Obama talked smooth and calm and it made most folks feel good in their tummies but it made America complacent, soft and dumb.
crying, whining, protesting, bitching—none of those things are gonna get you the results you want.
Trump's no better either but now we know that neither side is better or worse. its like they say "the lesser of two evils."
