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Topic: Top counterterrorism guy resigns over Iran war
Anonymous A started this discussion 5 hours ago#133,706
"Additionally, Kent alleged that "high-ranking Israeli officials" and influential US journalists had sowed "misinformation" that caused Trump to undermine his "America First" platform.
"This echo was used to deceive you into believing that Iran posted an imminent threat to the United States," the letter continued. "This was a lie.""
Meta joined in and replied with this 4 hours ago, 1 hour later[^][v]#1,423,897
What is the difference between a Zionist Occupied Government and a government which just happens to be filled with Zionists occupying the most important posts? 🤔
B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 1 hour ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,918
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I honestly don’t get how white people will say that white people are better than black people because white people controlled all the banks in Africa and robbed us, but then will act like it’s bad the Jews do it to them. Maybe the Jews are the master race, I don’t know.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 57 minutes ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,920
White people brag about creating all these weapons and all this technology. What do you use it for?
I’m just saying if white people really hate black people more than everybody else and white people really think Jews control the world, it’s interesting that the Spanish, the Portuguese, the French, the British, the Nazis, the confederates, the Rhodesians, the white South Africans… I’m just saying. It’s really interesting how no matter how many white supremacist governments and empires and attempts white people have made, they fail every time. That’s kinda crazy. Why do they always fail? Nobody’s ever explained that to me.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 54 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,922
I mean, I don’t know. I’m not saying the Jews control everything, I’m just saying, there are 700 million people in Europe, 300 million in the United States, there are probably at least a billion white people on the planet. There are only 15 million Jews in the world. I’m just saying, if 15 million Jews are actually controlling a billion white people the way white supremacists say they are, maybe white people aren’t the master race. I’m just saying.
Well there's people living in terms of "being a member of whatever" like the white race, then there's people living in terms of "on Wednesday I always eat tacos"
B l a c k M a n replied with this 48 minutes ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,926
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Personally, I think I care about the collective and the individual level. If white supremacists don’t want black people to succeed and I’m a black person, then I have to be pro black to the death because I can’t exist as an individual without the strength of the collective. They would kill all of us if they could, but they can’t because they’re afraid. There’s a cost / benefit analysis even evil people make.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 46 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,927
Like, white supremacists will say a lot of stuff about how they don’t want black people in America, but they don’t do anything to make that happen, because if they tried that they would die, and that’s the only reason why it doesn’t happen.
Yes that would make sense. The collective mindset is one of the great strengths of humans. You think gorillas would organize a lot to take people out? Idk, but nowhere close to as much as humans.
There's a tradeoff though. If there's no risk, the collective mindset can easily be like a burden where one is alienated from their own group as the members start drifting into highly personal matters. So the trade can end up being a decent life which you forfeit for the group cause.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 33 minutes ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,930
Like the economy for example. The reason why the US is the most powerful country is because we have the largest military, and we have the largest military because we can afford it because we have the largest economy. But there’s a tradeoff between equality and efficiency. If we redistributed wealth so everyone was equal, people on average would have a higher standard of living but the total GDP would be smaller, which means we couldn’t spend as much on defense. So we advocate for selfish behavior because people like helping themselves, which actually makes more people worse off, yet has the effect of benefiting the collective at the expense of the common individual. So if you think about it, the system is really a way to trick people into sacrificing for the collective.
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 17 minutes ago, 16 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,931
Or even if you think about the whole deal with all the AI hype. People are told this is an individualistic society, but people are worried because CEOs want to fire all their workers and replace them with AI so they can make more money. So it’s not really individualistic because the wellbeing of the individual completely doesn’t matter, the only thing that matters is how much money the company makes as a collective. Individualism is just an idea somebody made up but it’s not real.
Yes, many would agree with you. I think this collective, that's actually just a group of individuals, is something reffered to as "the big other" in psychoanalytics. The big other appears in many forms, and sizes lol.
But the idea is that you can have a twisted, pathological, way of relating to the big other.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 9 minutes ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,935
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To be honest, I think selfish impulses are bad. I’ve noticed there’s this thing that’s becoming popular where people feel impressed with themselves for doing things that hurt other people just for the sake of it because it makes them feel powerful, and that’s tried up in a lot of racist / sexist views. I think the problem is most people know they’re powerless but they want to lie to themselves about it, and it becomes a self destructive thing. There’s definitely something wrong with society, it’s not clear how to fix it though.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 7 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,936
Everybody wants to think we can do whatever we want and for some reason we tell kids we created a society where they can do whatever they want and anybody telling them they can’t do whatever they want is evil. But then they grow up and realize they live in the real world where that’s not how anything works and they have emotional outbursts as 40 to 70 year old men.
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 5 minutes ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,937
Either that or some people realize they’re never going to be rich so they start living vicariously through a billionaire and cheering them on no matter what they do wrong and getting offended when anybody points it out because they think rich people are geniuses.
B l a c k M a n quadruple-posted this 3 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,423,938
But if we were just honest to kids and instead of teaching them all this libertarian politics and Protestant work ethic we just told them, "You might get lucky and be rich but you probably won’t and will never have control over anything significant in society while people dumber than you do whatever they want and get away with it because life isn’t fair," we’d have fewer social issues because then at least people who get it.