Topic: Moral Majority and the Messe Report
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #133,679
Are the reason the primary reason The U.S became boring and rigid.
Unlike Japan whom they never had an equivalent cultural or political force pushing back the same way.
since their postwar constitution and legal framework, combined with a culture that compartmentalizes adult content rather than moralizing against it, allowed the market to persist and mature. Shit even their current PM is not really coming for adult content. It's actually kind of the opposite: she's supports that shit and pledged billions of yen in government assistance to boost Japan's content industries.
She identified anime as a key cultural export and met with prominent figures in Japan's entertainment industry to discuss cultural exports and how that culture strengthens Japan's political presence.
So in the end it was mainly the conservative religious movement in the U.S with their moralfagging that killed our debauchery. the U.S just overall sucks. all we fucking do and produce is problems and nonsensical shit. everything's sterile and boring.
but somehow for some reason only the politicians and religious figures can go and partake in all sorts of perverse shit on a fucking island and that's quite alright innit?
Unlike Japan whom they never had an equivalent cultural or political force pushing back the same way.
since their postwar constitution and legal framework, combined with a culture that compartmentalizes adult content rather than moralizing against it, allowed the market to persist and mature. Shit even their current PM is not really coming for adult content. It's actually kind of the opposite: she's supports that shit and pledged billions of yen in government assistance to boost Japan's content industries.
She identified anime as a key cultural export and met with prominent figures in Japan's entertainment industry to discuss cultural exports and how that culture strengthens Japan's political presence.
So in the end it was mainly the conservative religious movement in the U.S with their moralfagging that killed our debauchery. the U.S just overall sucks. all we fucking do and produce is problems and nonsensical shit. everything's sterile and boring.
but somehow for some reason only the politicians and religious figures can go and partake in all sorts of perverse shit on a fucking island and that's quite alright innit?
B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #1,423,658
I read this a couple of times and I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. Are you saying Japan is better than the United States because Japan has more porn?
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B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,661
Honestly my view on Christianity in general is I strongly prefer Catholic culture to Protestant, especially American Protestant culture. But I don’t think I’m anti religious necessarily. I’m fine with Muslims and Buddhists and atheists for the most part. I just dislike the American representation of Christianity and I prefer the original Roman representation of it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 23 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,664
@1,423,658 (B l a c k M a n)
I was using japan as an example. However in that regard I would say yes Japan is better than the U.S but not because it has more porn but mainly its attitude towards it. they perfectly understood the assignment without having to say it and everyone ran with it.
People buy it, consume it, and nobody really makes a big moral deal out of it But you also wouldn't bring it up at dinner with your family or flaunt it publicly. It's treated almost like a utility; something that exists, serves a purpose,
and doesn't need to be debated
The overarching point is that the U.S is boring, rigid and hypocritical. we some version of it in the past but we threw it away because we're just infinitely retarded. Religion should never have had a place in the collective conscious to begin with because its the very root of all the problems in the U.S. much less when it comes to what consenting adults want to do during their downtime of not working.
its the reason we've been regressing and will continue so until we're all just a bunch of bible thumping, verse-in-caption using idiots.
I was using japan as an example. However in that regard I would say yes Japan is better than the U.S but not because it has more porn but mainly its attitude towards it. they perfectly understood the assignment without having to say it and everyone ran with it.
People buy it, consume it, and nobody really makes a big moral deal out of it But you also wouldn't bring it up at dinner with your family or flaunt it publicly. It's treated almost like a utility; something that exists, serves a purpose,
and doesn't need to be debated
The overarching point is that the U.S is boring, rigid and hypocritical. we some version of it in the past but we threw it away because we're just infinitely retarded. Religion should never have had a place in the collective conscious to begin with because its the very root of all the problems in the U.S. much less when it comes to what consenting adults want to do during their downtime of not working.
its the reason we've been regressing and will continue so until we're all just a bunch of bible thumping, verse-in-caption using idiots.
B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,665
@previous (A)
I have the opposite view to be honest. I think American society is too immoral. I don’t think that we should force people to be a certain way, but I don’t really always like the cultural attitudes Americans have about things. It feels sort of amoral and nihilistic in a negative selfish almost sociopathic way sometimes.
I have the opposite view to be honest. I think American society is too immoral. I don’t think that we should force people to be a certain way, but I don’t really always like the cultural attitudes Americans have about things. It feels sort of amoral and nihilistic in a negative selfish almost sociopathic way sometimes.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,667
@1,423,661 (B l a c k M a n)
> Honestly my view on Christianity in general is I strongly prefer Catholic culture to Protestant, especially American Protestant culture. But I don’t think I’m anti religious necessarily. I’m fine with Muslims and Buddhists and atheists for the most part. I just dislike the American representation of Christianity and I prefer the original Roman representation of it.
I dont care for either. Religion is a bizarre concept. If humans seriously need some divine guiding principles as a framework to live their life because they simply dont know how to treat others with respect and compassion then we're not gonna last very long as a species.
> Honestly my view on Christianity in general is I strongly prefer Catholic culture to Protestant, especially American Protestant culture. But I don’t think I’m anti religious necessarily. I’m fine with Muslims and Buddhists and atheists for the most part. I just dislike the American representation of Christianity and I prefer the original Roman representation of it.
I dont care for either. Religion is a bizarre concept. If humans seriously need some divine guiding principles as a framework to live their life because they simply dont know how to treat others with respect and compassion then we're not gonna last very long as a species.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 40 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,668
I feel like a lot of the problems from American religion stem from Protestantism and I think Protestantism is where some American ideology comes from. Catholics believe there is only one church with one leader, the pope, founded by Christ. Protestants think that it’s fine to come up with your own arbitrary church and interpretations of the bible. I think this has contributed to the American idea that everyone is entitled to do whatever they want for the sake of it. Which is an attitude I’m not really a fan of, honestly.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,669
I just think that humanity should strive for some higher purpose and that as individuals we should strive to benefit society as a whole. I think it would be better if people weren’t hedonistic or driven to work hard to make the world a worse place for everyone else but better for themselves. I feel like it would be better if people actually cared about the collective wellbeing of society.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,670
@1,423,665 (B l a c k M a n)
> I have the opposite view to be honest. I think American society is too immoral. I don’t think that we should force people to be a certain way, but I don’t really always like the cultural attitudes Americans have about things. It feels sort of amoral and nihilistic in a negative selfish almost sociopathic way sometimes.
and thats why we're here sadly and why we're stuck with version of the U.S. As long as people like you with that take continue to have a voice in everything, continue to exist. its gonna be one miserable timeline.
> I have the opposite view to be honest. I think American society is too immoral. I don’t think that we should force people to be a certain way, but I don’t really always like the cultural attitudes Americans have about things. It feels sort of amoral and nihilistic in a negative selfish almost sociopathic way sometimes.
and thats why we're here sadly and why we're stuck with version of the U.S. As long as people like you with that take continue to have a voice in everything, continue to exist. its gonna be one miserable timeline.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,671
Some people say life is meaningless. I feel like I don’t agree with that.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,674
Japan doesn't need a moral majority pushback, because they never dealt with a widespread decline in sexual morality the way the US did after the 60s.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 40 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,675
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 48 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,676
@1,423,669 (B l a c k M a n)
> I just think that humanity should strive for some higher purpose and that as individuals we should strive to benefit society as a whole. I think it would be better if people weren’t hedonistic or driven to work hard to make the world a worse place for everyone else but better for themselves. I feel like it would be better if people actually cared about the collective wellbeing of society.
then people should let other people make goon content, consume it openly with no shame or redtape and stop imposing some moral mental gymnastics just because they feel uneasy about it. Japan managed to pull it off. they're fine.
> I just think that humanity should strive for some higher purpose and that as individuals we should strive to benefit society as a whole. I think it would be better if people weren’t hedonistic or driven to work hard to make the world a worse place for everyone else but better for themselves. I feel like it would be better if people actually cared about the collective wellbeing of society.
then people should let other people make goon content, consume it openly with no shame or redtape and stop imposing some moral mental gymnastics just because they feel uneasy about it. Japan managed to pull it off. they're fine.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,677
@previous (A)
Japan isn’t really fine though. They’re suffering economically from their declining birth rate and resistance to immigration.
Japan isn’t really fine though. They’re suffering economically from their declining birth rate and resistance to immigration.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 weeks ago, 46 seconds later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,678
@1,423,675 (B l a c k M a n)
Yes, there's nothing comparable.
Japanese men buying lewd magazines and anime body pillows doesn't cause societal collapse the way normalized whoring does.
You can find prostitutes in Japan, but that's a minority of the women. Most are monogamous or nonsexual because of work-life imbalances.
A liberal district in Tokyo you visited once isn't a representative look at the whole country either
Yes, there's nothing comparable.
Japanese men buying lewd magazines and anime body pillows doesn't cause societal collapse the way normalized whoring does.
You can find prostitutes in Japan, but that's a minority of the women. Most are monogamous or nonsexual because of work-life imbalances.
A liberal district in Tokyo you visited once isn't a representative look at the whole country either
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,680
@1,423,671 (B l a c k M a n)
> Some people say life is meaningless. I feel like I don’t agree with that.
look i know you're just yanking my chain for funsies so I'll take your words as just "dicking around" because I know no sane human would write would what you wrote and believe it for gospel. Much less on minichan we can take partake in hedonism and debauchery to vent away real world bullshit.
> Some people say life is meaningless. I feel like I don’t agree with that.
look i know you're just yanking my chain for funsies so I'll take your words as just "dicking around" because I know no sane human would write would what you wrote and believe it for gospel. Much less on minichan we can take partake in hedonism and debauchery to vent away real world bullshit.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 46 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,681
I’m actually not really sure that pornography is harmless. It does reinforce racist stereotypes and the depiction of Asian women in porn as sex objects I think does help to reinforce white supremacy. For example, there have been violent attacks against Asian women by white men in the United States due to the association between them and pornography and prostitution.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,682
@1,423,677 (B l a c k M a n)
> Japan isn’t really fine though. They’re suffering economically from their declining birth rate and resistance to immigration.
They're fine. The gen pop isnt bothered or overly concerned with that. The only ones who are concerned with that are the ones in power who benefit from having a stressed out population who should work and procreate to fabricate more humans.
Let goon content exist.
> Japan isn’t really fine though. They’re suffering economically from their declining birth rate and resistance to immigration.
They're fine. The gen pop isnt bothered or overly concerned with that. The only ones who are concerned with that are the ones in power who benefit from having a stressed out population who should work and procreate to fabricate more humans.
Let goon content exist.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,683
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,684
I get living in the moment and everything, but if Japan doesn’t change course, they’re going to de-industrialize and in the future Japan won’t be a wealthy country. These things actually do matter. Japan was the second largest economy in the world 20 years ago, now they’re the 5th largest economy. That’s not a good trend.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,685
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,686
@1,423,681 (B l a c k M a n)
> I’m actually not really sure that pornography is harmless. It does reinforce racist stereotypes and the depiction of Asian women in porn as sex objects I think does help to reinforce white supremacy. For example, there have been violent attacks against Asian women by white men in the United States due to the association between them and pornography and prostitution.
nah stop that lol if you're gonna devolve my topic to one of your usual race narratives. I'm gonna stop you right now: I'm black/brown/mixed whatever you wanna call it. Racism will never get solved and I do not care to waste energy on it. We're gonna get stereotyped till the end of the time. It will never go away because thats like fighting air and why waste time and resources on punching something you can never hit. I'm more interested in building a community of like minded fellow gooners who do not care such trivialities
because they understand the assignment.
> I’m actually not really sure that pornography is harmless. It does reinforce racist stereotypes and the depiction of Asian women in porn as sex objects I think does help to reinforce white supremacy. For example, there have been violent attacks against Asian women by white men in the United States due to the association between them and pornography and prostitution.
nah stop that lol if you're gonna devolve my topic to one of your usual race narratives. I'm gonna stop you right now: I'm black/brown/mixed whatever you wanna call it. Racism will never get solved and I do not care to waste energy on it. We're gonna get stereotyped till the end of the time. It will never go away because thats like fighting air and why waste time and resources on punching something you can never hit. I'm more interested in building a community of like minded fellow gooners who do not care such trivialities
because they understand the assignment.
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B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,687
Japan was surpassed by China, and then Germany, then India.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,689
@1,423,686 (A)
Well it might never be solved but if wealthy developed countries get surpassed economically by countries like India, that’s a future where the entire west will be like white South Africans: constantly complaining and fussing that they’re superior even though they’re powerless to actually do anything about it.
Well it might never be solved but if wealthy developed countries get surpassed economically by countries like India, that’s a future where the entire west will be like white South Africans: constantly complaining and fussing that they’re superior even though they’re powerless to actually do anything about it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 0 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,690
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,691
Which maybe that’s fine, I don’t know. That might be a form of justice if you really think about it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 second later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,692
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,693
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,694
I mean you can have the attitude "yeah if I don’t have money I’ll be fine." Have you ever actually seen how people who don’t have money live? It’s not fun.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,695
@1,423,693 (B l a c k M a n)
> They probably won’t.
sigh.. is this one of those moments where now I have sourage the internet to find statisitics and all that dumb shit just to prove the point? did we not have a bunch of word salad essays on here already? must you need more?
> They probably won’t.
sigh.. is this one of those moments where now I have sourage the internet to find statisitics and all that dumb shit just to prove the point? did we not have a bunch of word salad essays on here already? must you need more?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,700
Its like a weird ass psyop happening.
I bring to attention some problem that has nothing to do with your usual topic and somehow like clockwork you happen to punch in, see this thread and say "nah hold I gotta derail this guy because he's speaking forbidden truth and we just cant have that can we?
the world would do fine if we partake further light hearted gooning and you have to come in with the moralfagging. you're literally proving my initial point. Fuck the economy, fuck the gdp or whose first or 16th in the world. I do not care. what I care is about why is japan the only country to get to have that kind fun? answer me that.
I bring to attention some problem that has nothing to do with your usual topic and somehow like clockwork you happen to punch in, see this thread and say "nah hold I gotta derail this guy because he's speaking forbidden truth and we just cant have that can we?
the world would do fine if we partake further light hearted gooning and you have to come in with the moralfagging. you're literally proving my initial point. Fuck the economy, fuck the gdp or whose first or 16th in the world. I do not care. what I care is about why is japan the only country to get to have that kind fun? answer me that.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,702
@previous (A)
That was kind of my point though. Just because the world isn’t the way you want it to be doesn’t mean hedonism will fix anything. It’s just another form of nihilism. Not caring that the GDP will go down won’t make it go up. Stuff matters.
That was kind of my point though. Just because the world isn’t the way you want it to be doesn’t mean hedonism will fix anything. It’s just another form of nihilism. Not caring that the GDP will go down won’t make it go up. Stuff matters.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,704
what happened to us producing fucking pulp stories and selling them. where's our 7 eleven where we can read some playboy during our lunch break? Hey you know what would fucking swell? maybe our government investing more money in the adult entertainment or just Idk any entertainment so we can produce actual quality content to the world? why is nobody talking about that or have 10 hour yap sessions on the matter?
so many useless content creators, pod casters and "intellectuals" but it becomes taboo to discuss something as basic "hey we should support artists, animators and writers to produce adult content for adults."
so many useless content creators, pod casters and "intellectuals" but it becomes taboo to discuss something as basic "hey we should support artists, animators and writers to produce adult content for adults."
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,705
@1,423,702 (B l a c k M a n)
> why is japan the only country to get to have that kind fun? answer me that.
> why is japan the only country to get to have that kind fun? answer me that.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,706
It just kinda sounds like you’re depressed tbh
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 47 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,707
@1,423,664 (A)
> I was using japan as an example. However in that regard I would say yes Japan is better than the U.S but not because it has more porn but mainly its attitude towards it. they perfectly understood the assignment without having to say it and everyone ran with it.
> People buy it, consume it, and nobody really makes a big moral deal out of it But you also wouldn't bring it up at dinner with your family or flaunt it publicly. It's treated almost like a utility; something that exists, serves a purpose,
> and doesn't need to be debated
>
> The overarching point is that the U.S is boring, rigid and hypocritical. we some version of it in the past but we threw it away because we're just infinitely retarded. Religion should never have had a place in the collective conscious to begin with because its the very root of all the problems in the U.S. much less when it comes to what consenting adults want to do during their downtime of not working.
>
> its the reason we've been regressing and will continue so until we're all just a bunch of bible thumping, verse-in-caption using idiots.
Have you ever seen the Pornhub stats? Repressed red state types, who claim religion and morality, are top consumers of trans, “femboy,” gay, and faux incest porn.
> I was using japan as an example. However in that regard I would say yes Japan is better than the U.S but not because it has more porn but mainly its attitude towards it. they perfectly understood the assignment without having to say it and everyone ran with it.
> People buy it, consume it, and nobody really makes a big moral deal out of it But you also wouldn't bring it up at dinner with your family or flaunt it publicly. It's treated almost like a utility; something that exists, serves a purpose,
> and doesn't need to be debated
>
> The overarching point is that the U.S is boring, rigid and hypocritical. we some version of it in the past but we threw it away because we're just infinitely retarded. Religion should never have had a place in the collective conscious to begin with because its the very root of all the problems in the U.S. much less when it comes to what consenting adults want to do during their downtime of not working.
>
> its the reason we've been regressing and will continue so until we're all just a bunch of bible thumping, verse-in-caption using idiots.
Have you ever seen the Pornhub stats? Repressed red state types, who claim religion and morality, are top consumers of trans, “femboy,” gay, and faux incest porn.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,708
@previous (F)
Repressed red states are the most anti Catholic states though. There are more Catholics in parts of the country that have more descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants like New York and Massachusetts.
Repressed red states are the most anti Catholic states though. There are more Catholics in parts of the country that have more descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants like New York and Massachusetts.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,709
Pro Trump people don’t even like the Catholic Church. I saw a bunch of them bad mouthing the pope online because the Catholic Church has a different stance on migrants than Donald Trump.
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,712
I’m not even right wing myself, I’m left wing. That’s part of the reason why I said I prefer Catholic culture, because I don’t like the right wing Protestant representation of Christianity in the United States. It goes against my values and it goes against what I believe Jesus stood for.
B l a c k M a n quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,714
In the United States, the US was originally settled by the British, so the US is majority Protestant, but globally more Christians are Catholic than Protestant. I don’t believe that American Christianity is an accurate representation of what the Christian religion is.
B l a c k M a n quintuple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,716
And the British by the way used to be Catholic. The reason they became Protestant is because king Henry VIII kept beheading his wives since he couldn’t divorce them until he got bored of it and decided to split off from the Catholic Church. But Ireland didn’t follow him, and then they fought over that for hundreds of years and that’s why to this day American Protestants still disrespect Catholics all the time openly.
B l a c k M a n sextuple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,720
Then Protestants have this idea that the Catholic Church was oppressive and they were innovating by splitting off to create a more just world, but if you look into the history of Ireland, there it was the exact opposite. The Protestants were imperialists.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,733
@1,423,716 (B l a c k M a n)
I was once asked by an American gentlemae whether I was "Catholic or Christian"
I was once asked by an American gentlemae whether I was "Catholic or Christian"
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,738
@1,423,706 (B l a c k M a n)
> It just kinda sounds like you’re depressed tbh
you still haven't answered but its cool. anyways the world needs to goon more.
> It just kinda sounds like you’re depressed tbh
you still haven't answered but its cool. anyways the world needs to goon more.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 15 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,742
@1,423,707 (F)
> Have you ever seen the Pornhub stats? Repressed red state types, who claim religion and morality, are top consumers of trans, “femboy,” gay, and faux incest porn.
Yeah and that's the problem. Nobody gives a fuck if they consumers all of that. the issue is why not just support that and create an industry instead of imposing some weird doctrine just because you're terrifed to admit to yourself that you beat your meat to big dick trans and femboys. There's no shame in that especially thats 1000 times better producing/consuming "youknowwhat" because thats the only time I agree with the legal and moral part of the discussion. every one knows and understands that there are certain groups that are simply off-limits and the ones that dont we have tried and tested solutions to deal with those types.
people generally repressed those types of things because they don't want to be ostracized and shamed. So they have to conceal it in order to get their fix. but over time those same red types run the risk committing egregious crimes.
I imagine some of them deep down wanna fuck a femboy or whatever and just want to blow off some steam after a long ass day of work but they cant but you'll have someone with blackman's mentality dictating what adults should and shouldnt do because of "morality" or because its not respectable.
> Have you ever seen the Pornhub stats? Repressed red state types, who claim religion and morality, are top consumers of trans, “femboy,” gay, and faux incest porn.
Yeah and that's the problem. Nobody gives a fuck if they consumers all of that. the issue is why not just support that and create an industry instead of imposing some weird doctrine just because you're terrifed to admit to yourself that you beat your meat to big dick trans and femboys. There's no shame in that especially thats 1000 times better producing/consuming "youknowwhat" because thats the only time I agree with the legal and moral part of the discussion. every one knows and understands that there are certain groups that are simply off-limits and the ones that dont we have tried and tested solutions to deal with those types.
people generally repressed those types of things because they don't want to be ostracized and shamed. So they have to conceal it in order to get their fix. but over time those same red types run the risk committing egregious crimes.
I imagine some of them deep down wanna fuck a femboy or whatever and just want to blow off some steam after a long ass day of work but they cant but you'll have someone with blackman's mentality dictating what adults should and shouldnt do because of "morality" or because its not respectable.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,744
America has had some weird moral panic for a very long time and its like yeah those pornhub stats might say some "red states consume XYZ porn" however the general consensus is its seen as sinful, shameful, or socially dangerous and that moral framing is what gave the religious right the political ammunition to go after it.
Even those same people who privately consumed it would publicly condemn it if it meant it saved their image.
Even those same people who privately consumed it would publicly condemn it if it meant it saved their image.
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B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,747
@1,423,733 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
> I was once asked by an American gentlemae whether I was "Catholic or Christian"
Americans are so dumb.
> I was once asked by an American gentlemae whether I was "Catholic or Christian"
Americans are so dumb.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,748
@1,423,742 (A)
I don’t get how you want to jerk off so bad you’re basing your religious and geopolitical views off of porn.
I don’t get how you want to jerk off so bad you’re basing your religious and geopolitical views off of porn.
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 58 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,765
…wait doesn’t Japan censor porn tho
FactBoy quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,767
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,787
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,788
@1,423,748 (B l a c k M a n)
I know where my priorities lie that's all. you've made a long spiel about geopolitics all the while inserting your beliefs and political views into the mix.
all the more reason for folks to not take shit so seriously. I dont how you live in real life but I'm gonna guess that you touch grass which is fine. every on here touches grass and engages with folks.
most of us have hobbies. I know mines I like to make art for fun and share it folks. I have friends who animate or write they enjoy it. the one that writes? she too likes the occasional goon content.
Ive found forums with highly interesting conversations about porn and hentai. they're well adjusted and function as normal humans.
I know where my priorities lie that's all. you've made a long spiel about geopolitics all the while inserting your beliefs and political views into the mix.
all the more reason for folks to not take shit so seriously. I dont how you live in real life but I'm gonna guess that you touch grass which is fine. every on here touches grass and engages with folks.
most of us have hobbies. I know mines I like to make art for fun and share it folks. I have friends who animate or write they enjoy it. the one that writes? she too likes the occasional goon content.
Ive found forums with highly interesting conversations about porn and hentai. they're well adjusted and function as normal humans.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,789
@1,423,765 (B l a c k M a n)
> …wait doesn’t Japan censor porn tho
some do. some dont. nonetheless they still consume it and its a supported industry.
> …wait doesn’t Japan censor porn tho
some do. some dont. nonetheless they still consume it and its a supported industry.
B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,791
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,793
How far do you really wanna take this gooning political thing? You wanna become this guy?
https://youtu.be/GdbuUF7UsYI
https://youtu.be/GdbuUF7UsYI
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,794
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 51 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,795
@1,423,791 (B l a c k M a n)
> Just pointing out that the premise is shaky.
reflexive moralization about adult content isn't the intellectually honest or virtuous position it's often dressed up as. its not really shaky.
> Just pointing out that the premise is shaky.
reflexive moralization about adult content isn't the intellectually honest or virtuous position it's often dressed up as. its not really shaky.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,796
@1,423,793 (B l a c k M a n)
> How far do you really wanna take this gooning political thing? You wanna become this guy?
>
> https://youtu.be/GdbuUF7UsYI
with a little bit of spit and lube; as far its willing to take it.
> How far do you really wanna take this gooning political thing? You wanna become this guy?
>
> https://youtu.be/GdbuUF7UsYI
with a little bit of spit and lube; as far its willing to take it.
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B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 50 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,797
@previous (A)
Hey, relax. You just gotta remember that we all heaven sent.
https://youtu.be/Dtn-D_n5QBQ
Hey, relax. You just gotta remember that we all heaven sent.
https://youtu.be/Dtn-D_n5QBQ
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,798
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,799
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,800
@1,423,797 (B l a c k M a n)
> Hey, relax. You just gotta remember that we all heaven sent.
>
> https://youtu.be/Dtn-D_n5QBQ
but he do have a point tho. we're all heaven sent.
> Hey, relax. You just gotta remember that we all heaven sent.
>
> https://youtu.be/Dtn-D_n5QBQ
but he do have a point tho. we're all heaven sent.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,801
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 34 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,802
Epstein, the Devil, and Adolf too
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 27 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,803
@1,423,799 (B l a c k M a n)
> Nah, the current situation is fine. Wait until next week.
Nah not at all. the weird racial/geopolitical/racial discourse fetish and the ilk that partake in it has to got to get delete asap no mob. MC has about 1000000+ page backlog of the same nonsense.
> Nah, the current situation is fine. Wait until next week.
Nah not at all. the weird racial/geopolitical/racial discourse fetish and the ilk that partake in it has to got to get delete asap no mob. MC has about 1000000+ page backlog of the same nonsense.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,804
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,805
@1,423,801 (B l a c k M a n)
Its text. we're strangers not friends. so mb if I didnt pick on the sarcasm considering theres no way to discern it.
at least plebbit uses /s to denote sarcasm when people write.
Its text. we're strangers not friends. so mb if I didnt pick on the sarcasm considering theres no way to discern it.
at least plebbit uses /s to denote sarcasm when people write.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,806
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,807
Anyway, have fun with your penis. I hope one day you jerk off for so long while you’re so high on drugs and start reading Wikipedia articles while you jerk off and calculate the specific impulse of a human ejaculation to determine how many times you would have to nut to get the delta v to move from low earth orbit to geostationary so you can spy on japan from above forever.
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,808
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,423,873
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,424,119
My wife was right too. My kids ended up being unable to manage their device use at all, they developed seriously bad habits, lied and deceived extensively to gain access to devices, and repeatedly sacrificed relationships and trust for more screen time. There were years there where I thought surely they'd click with it and develop better habits, make better choices (with our guidance), and so on. Abstinence could be worse, right? Some exposure would be helpful and lead to useful conversations and so on.The Internet, Internet access, and apps have changed since I was a kid. Despite their time on digital devices along with my efforts to teach them, my kids have no idea how computers work or how to use them very effectively. The skills they have developed to gain access to them were largely social engineering and lying. They exclusively waste time and brain cells when they're on screens.
One of my kids essentially can't have access to devices because he'll burn hours into the night playing really, really stupid games and watching porn. This is ALL he wants to do on phones or computers. Sometimes he will window shop.
You might think this is largely due to my failure to have insight into what my kids are doing and limiting access correctly, but that isn't the case. At first we were somewhat lenient and figured if they accessed things they shouldn't, we'd see it and have conversations. That was very early on. The conversations did nothing. I began putting severe restrictions on devices quite quickly because problems became evident quickly. I was a bit naive about it at first, my wife was not. We clashed a bit, but then device theft and social engineering started and I quickly aligned with her. Since then, many years ago, very little access has been on account of us not protecting devices properly. He is extremely good at gaining access when he's not supposed to, and extremely good at hiding it. It's like having an addict in the house.
He has no future in computers. He doesn't care about computers at all. He is incredibly compulsive, self-harming, and freely harms his relationships to get what he wants. This has been going on for about 5 years; he's 16 now, and I'm pretty scared for when he's out on his own and doesn't have anyone to protect him from himself. I think there will be some brutal lessons. Lost jobs, lost relationships, lost confidence and self esteem. I'm not looking forward to it.
I have no idea why I turned sneaking onto computers into a career rather than rotted away like they do. I wanted to learn to program. I was curious. My kids want to play NBA 2k and watch porn. That's about it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,424,138
@previous (J)
> This has been going on for about 5 years; he's 16 now, and I'm pretty scared for when he's out on his own and doesn't have anyone to protect him from himself. I think there will be some brutal lessons. Lost jobs, lost relationships, lost confidence and self esteem. I'm not looking forward to it.
He'll be alright. because those things will strengthen him out in the long run. Besides maybe its not your kid who sacrificed relationships and trust but the other way around. If his circle ended up dropping him just because he goons then those people weren't worth keeping in the first place. Jobs, Confidence, Relationships, Self esteem — those things can easily be regained there's never a short supply.
> the skills they have developed to gain access to them were largely social engineering and lying.
well I mean in this day and age those are the only ones that matter. If you cant do the two then you'll be a hardworking sucker for the rest of your life complaining that life's not fair.
You can know how to do a thing but 90% of making it anywhere in life is through bullshitting.
> They exclusively waste time and brain cells when they're on screens.
so do we and we're all turned out alright.
> I wanted to learn to program.
everybody does. that's about as common as people wanting to be a musician or rapper.
> My kids want to play NBA 2k and watch porn. That's about it.
Not a bad thing at all.
> You might think this is largely due to my failure to have insight into what my kids are doing and limiting access correctly, but that isn't the case. At first we were somewhat lenient and figured if they accessed things they shouldn't, we'd see it and have conversations. That was very early on. The conversations did nothing.
except it is largely both you and your wife's fault. Restricting, Prohibiting, etc rarely ever work. Sure the conversation was good to do but if there's no follow up then its just a pointless yap session that wastes time. Time that can used to goon or even go out and touch grass. if you're telling me that its been this way for 5 years(hes 16 now) then at 10 years old maybe you guys could have just taken them out more. Force them into summer camps or after school workshops. If your kid plays NBA 2K, maybe he benefit from having his parents put him in some basketball camp.
Point is the only reason you didn't rot away was mainly because you didn't give yourself time to. but you and your wife did a disservice to your kid in that regard. your wife was wrong and porn/device consumption had nothing to do with it.
> This has been going on for about 5 years; he's 16 now, and I'm pretty scared for when he's out on his own and doesn't have anyone to protect him from himself. I think there will be some brutal lessons. Lost jobs, lost relationships, lost confidence and self esteem. I'm not looking forward to it.
He'll be alright. because those things will strengthen him out in the long run. Besides maybe its not your kid who sacrificed relationships and trust but the other way around. If his circle ended up dropping him just because he goons then those people weren't worth keeping in the first place. Jobs, Confidence, Relationships, Self esteem — those things can easily be regained there's never a short supply.
> the skills they have developed to gain access to them were largely social engineering and lying.
well I mean in this day and age those are the only ones that matter. If you cant do the two then you'll be a hardworking sucker for the rest of your life complaining that life's not fair.
You can know how to do a thing but 90% of making it anywhere in life is through bullshitting.
> They exclusively waste time and brain cells when they're on screens.
so do we and we're all turned out alright.
> I wanted to learn to program.
everybody does. that's about as common as people wanting to be a musician or rapper.
> My kids want to play NBA 2k and watch porn. That's about it.
Not a bad thing at all.
> You might think this is largely due to my failure to have insight into what my kids are doing and limiting access correctly, but that isn't the case. At first we were somewhat lenient and figured if they accessed things they shouldn't, we'd see it and have conversations. That was very early on. The conversations did nothing.
except it is largely both you and your wife's fault. Restricting, Prohibiting, etc rarely ever work. Sure the conversation was good to do but if there's no follow up then its just a pointless yap session that wastes time. Time that can used to goon or even go out and touch grass. if you're telling me that its been this way for 5 years(hes 16 now) then at 10 years old maybe you guys could have just taken them out more. Force them into summer camps or after school workshops. If your kid plays NBA 2K, maybe he benefit from having his parents put him in some basketball camp.
Point is the only reason you didn't rot away was mainly because you didn't give yourself time to. but you and your wife did a disservice to your kid in that regard. your wife was wrong and porn/device consumption had nothing to do with it.