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Anonymous A started this discussion 2 hours ago#133,679
Are the reason the primary reason The U.S became boring and rigid.
Unlike Japan whom they never had an equivalent cultural or political force pushing back the same way.
since their postwar constitution and legal framework, combined with a culture that compartmentalizes adult content rather than moralizing against it, allowed the market to persist and mature. Shit even their current PM is not really coming for adult content. It's actually kind of the opposite: she's supports that shit and pledged billions of yen in government assistance to boost Japan's content industries.
She identified anime as a key cultural export and met with prominent figures in Japan's entertainment industry to discuss cultural exports and how that culture strengthens Japan's political presence.
So in the end it was mainly the conservative religious movement in the U.S with their moralfagging that killed our debauchery. the U.S just overall sucks. all we fucking do and produce is problems and nonsensical shit. everything's sterile and boring.
but somehow for some reason only the politicians and religious figures can go and partake in all sorts of perverse shit on a fucking island and that's quite alright innit?
B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 7 minutes later[^][v]#1,423,658
I read this a couple of times and I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. Are you saying Japan is better than the United States because Japan has more porn?
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,423,661
Honestly my view on Christianity in general is I strongly prefer Catholic culture to Protestant, especially American Protestant culture. But I don’t think I’m anti religious necessarily. I’m fine with Muslims and Buddhists and atheists for the most part. I just dislike the American representation of Christianity and I prefer the original Roman representation of it.
I was using japan as an example. However in that regard I would say yes Japan is better than the U.S but not because it has more porn but mainly its attitude towards it. they perfectly understood the assignment without having to say it and everyone ran with it.
People buy it, consume it, and nobody really makes a big moral deal out of it But you also wouldn't bring it up at dinner with your family or flaunt it publicly. It's treated almost like a utility; something that exists, serves a purpose,
and doesn't need to be debated
The overarching point is that the U.S is boring, rigid and hypocritical. we some version of it in the past but we threw it away because we're just infinitely retarded. Religion should never have had a place in the collective conscious to begin with because its the very root of all the problems in the U.S. much less when it comes to what consenting adults want to do during their downtime of not working.
its the reason we've been regressing and will continue so until we're all just a bunch of bible thumping, verse-in-caption using idiots.
B l a c k M a n joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,423,665
@previous (A)
I have the opposite view to be honest. I think American society is too immoral. I don’t think that we should force people to be a certain way, but I don’t really always like the cultural attitudes Americans have about things. It feels sort of amoral and nihilistic in a negative selfish almost sociopathic way sometimes.
> Honestly my view on Christianity in general is I strongly prefer Catholic culture to Protestant, especially American Protestant culture. But I don’t think I’m anti religious necessarily. I’m fine with Muslims and Buddhists and atheists for the most part. I just dislike the American representation of Christianity and I prefer the original Roman representation of it.
I dont care for either. Religion is a bizarre concept. If humans seriously need some divine guiding principles as a framework to live their life because they simply dont know how to treat others with respect and compassion then we're not gonna last very long as a species.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 2 hours ago, 40 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,423,668
I feel like a lot of the problems from American religion stem from Protestantism and I think Protestantism is where some American ideology comes from. Catholics believe there is only one church with one leader, the pope, founded by Christ. Protestants think that it’s fine to come up with your own arbitrary church and interpretations of the bible. I think this has contributed to the American idea that everyone is entitled to do whatever they want for the sake of it. Which is an attitude I’m not really a fan of, honestly.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,423,669
I just think that humanity should strive for some higher purpose and that as individuals we should strive to benefit society as a whole. I think it would be better if people weren’t hedonistic or driven to work hard to make the world a worse place for everyone else but better for themselves. I feel like it would be better if people actually cared about the collective wellbeing of society.
> I have the opposite view to be honest. I think American society is too immoral. I don’t think that we should force people to be a certain way, but I don’t really always like the cultural attitudes Americans have about things. It feels sort of amoral and nihilistic in a negative selfish almost sociopathic way sometimes.
and thats why we're here sadly and why we're stuck with version of the U.S. As long as people like you with that take continue to have a voice in everything, continue to exist. its gonna be one miserable timeline.
> I just think that humanity should strive for some higher purpose and that as individuals we should strive to benefit society as a whole. I think it would be better if people weren’t hedonistic or driven to work hard to make the world a worse place for everyone else but better for themselves. I feel like it would be better if people actually cared about the collective wellbeing of society.
then people should let other people make goon content, consume it openly with no shame or redtape and stop imposing some moral mental gymnastics just because they feel uneasy about it. Japan managed to pull it off. they're fine.
> Some people say life is meaningless. I feel like I don’t agree with that.
look i know you're just yanking my chain for funsies so I'll take your words as just "dicking around" because I know no sane human would write would what you wrote and believe it for gospel. Much less on minichan we can take partake in hedonism and debauchery to vent away real world bullshit.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 1 hour ago, 46 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,423,681
I’m actually not really sure that pornography is harmless. It does reinforce racist stereotypes and the depiction of Asian women in porn as sex objects I think does help to reinforce white supremacy. For example, there have been violent attacks against Asian women by white men in the United States due to the association between them and pornography and prostitution.
> Japan isn’t really fine though. They’re suffering economically from their declining birth rate and resistance to immigration.
They're fine. The gen pop isnt bothered or overly concerned with that. The only ones who are concerned with that are the ones in power who benefit from having a stressed out population who should work and procreate to fabricate more humans.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,684
I get living in the moment and everything, but if Japan doesn’t change course, they’re going to de-industrialize and in the future Japan won’t be a wealthy country. These things actually do matter. Japan was the second largest economy in the world 20 years ago, now they’re the 5th largest economy. That’s not a good trend.
> I’m actually not really sure that pornography is harmless. It does reinforce racist stereotypes and the depiction of Asian women in porn as sex objects I think does help to reinforce white supremacy. For example, there have been violent attacks against Asian women by white men in the United States due to the association between them and pornography and prostitution.
nah stop that lol if you're gonna devolve my topic to one of your usual race narratives. I'm gonna stop you right now: I'm black/brown/mixed whatever you wanna call it. Racism will never get solved and I do not care to waste energy on it. We're gonna get stereotyped till the end of the time. It will never go away because thats like fighting air and why waste time and resources on punching something you can never hit. I'm more interested in building a community of like minded fellow gooners who do not care such trivialities
because they understand the assignment.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,689
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Well it might never be solved but if wealthy developed countries get surpassed economically by countries like India, that’s a future where the entire west will be like white South Africans: constantly complaining and fussing that they’re superior even though they’re powerless to actually do anything about it.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,694
I mean you can have the attitude "yeah if I don’t have money I’ll be fine." Have you ever actually seen how people who don’t have money live? It’s not fun.
sigh.. is this one of those moments where now I have sourage the internet to find statisitics and all that dumb shit just to prove the point? did we not have a bunch of word salad essays on here already? must you need more?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 hour ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,700
Its like a weird ass psyop happening.
I bring to attention some problem that has nothing to do with your usual topic and somehow like clockwork you happen to punch in, see this thread and say "nah hold I gotta derail this guy because he's speaking forbidden truth and we just cant have that can we?
the world would do fine if we partake further light hearted gooning and you have to come in with the moralfagging. you're literally proving my initial point. Fuck the economy, fuck the gdp or whose first or 16th in the world. I do not care. what I care is about why is japan the only country to get to have that kind fun? answer me that.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,702
@previous (A)
That was kind of my point though. Just because the world isn’t the way you want it to be doesn’t mean hedonism will fix anything. It’s just another form of nihilism. Not caring that the GDP will go down won’t make it go up. Stuff matters.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,704
what happened to us producing fucking pulp stories and selling them. where's our 7 eleven where we can read some playboy during our lunch break? Hey you know what would fucking swell? maybe our government investing more money in the adult entertainment or just Idk any entertainment so we can produce actual quality content to the world? why is nobody talking about that or have 10 hour yap sessions on the matter?
so many useless content creators, pod casters and "intellectuals" but it becomes taboo to discuss something as basic "hey we should support artists, animators and writers to produce adult content for adults."
> I was using japan as an example. However in that regard I would say yes Japan is better than the U.S but not because it has more porn but mainly its attitude towards it. they perfectly understood the assignment without having to say it and everyone ran with it. > People buy it, consume it, and nobody really makes a big moral deal out of it But you also wouldn't bring it up at dinner with your family or flaunt it publicly. It's treated almost like a utility; something that exists, serves a purpose, > and doesn't need to be debated > > The overarching point is that the U.S is boring, rigid and hypocritical. we some version of it in the past but we threw it away because we're just infinitely retarded. Religion should never have had a place in the collective conscious to begin with because its the very root of all the problems in the U.S. much less when it comes to what consenting adults want to do during their downtime of not working. > > its the reason we've been regressing and will continue so until we're all just a bunch of bible thumping, verse-in-caption using idiots.
Have you ever seen the Pornhub stats? Repressed red state types, who claim religion and morality, are top consumers of trans, “femboy,” gay, and faux incest porn.
B l a c k M a n replied with this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,708
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Repressed red states are the most anti Catholic states though. There are more Catholics in parts of the country that have more descendants of Irish and Italian immigrants like New York and Massachusetts.
B l a c k M a n double-posted this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,709
Pro Trump people don’t even like the Catholic Church. I saw a bunch of them bad mouthing the pope online because the Catholic Church has a different stance on migrants than Donald Trump.
B l a c k M a n triple-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,712
I’m not even right wing myself, I’m left wing. That’s part of the reason why I said I prefer Catholic culture, because I don’t like the right wing Protestant representation of Christianity in the United States. It goes against my values and it goes against what I believe Jesus stood for.
B l a c k M a n quadruple-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,714
In the United States, the US was originally settled by the British, so the US is majority Protestant, but globally more Christians are Catholic than Protestant. I don’t believe that American Christianity is an accurate representation of what the Christian religion is.
B l a c k M a n quintuple-posted this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,716
And the British by the way used to be Catholic. The reason they became Protestant is because king Henry VIII kept beheading his wives since he couldn’t divorce them until he got bored of it and decided to split off from the Catholic Church. But Ireland didn’t follow him, and then they fought over that for hundreds of years and that’s why to this day American Protestants still disrespect Catholics all the time openly.
B l a c k M a n sextuple-posted this 1 hour ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,423,720
Then Protestants have this idea that the Catholic Church was oppressive and they were innovating by splitting off to create a more just world, but if you look into the history of Ireland, there it was the exact opposite. The Protestants were imperialists.