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Anonymous B double-posted this 7 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,419,774
All these years weren’t republicans the ones advocating for capitalism? I’m just explaining tariffs are taxes, trade can be mutually beneficial, and taxes reduce economic efficiency. I’m just arguing for the benefits of the free market here.
Anonymous B quadruple-posted this 7 hours ago, 5 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,419,776
Also, the world economy is a game with more than two players, right? America is 4% of the population. Maybe you hate Africans or whatever so you think if we increase the price American citizens have to pay for anything produced in Africa, that hurts Africa more than it hurts us, but it doesn’t. If Americans don’t trade with Africa because it’s too expensive, then Africans will trade more with China than they trade with the United States. It doesn’t strengthen our position in any meaningful way, it’s stupid any way you look at it.
Anonymous B quintuple-posted this 7 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,419,777
And I’m just saying Africa because that’s who we were talking about, the Europeans and the Canadians and the South Korean have all been making the same calculation.
The tariffs advantage China more than any other country.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 hours ago, 9 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,419,778
Trump is a failed entrepreneur. He is successful at defrauding investors and his base.
I’m not sure he knows how tariffs work.
Slick Willy signed an entire GOP agenda into law and was impeached for a blowjob. Could you imagine how the GOP would have dealt with a Democrat Trump? Tariffs, masked federal law enforcement harassing and killing citizens, manufacturing and agricultural turmoil, personal bribery deals with UAE and Qatar, emoluments out the ass, DOGE’s failures …
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 hours ago, 9 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,419,785
@1,419,773 (B)
It means corporations won't be offshoring jobs, and if they do its their American (See? I agreed!) customers who choose to buy slave wage goods that pay the price.
You keep acting like I said someone else pays it, but I never did. Always pointed out its to protect workers. Try responding to what I actually said next time, instead of rehashing strawman arguments I already said we agree on multiple times.
Donald Trump joined in and replied with this 6 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,419,787
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You aren’t going to believe how stupid the real story is. The real story is Donald Trump searched for a book on economic policy on Amazon, the first book that came up was called Death by China which was written by a guy called Peter Navarro. Now Peter Navarro made his argument in the book by citing a source named Ron Vara. Ron Vara isn’t a real person, it’s an anagram of Navarro.
Trump didn’t read the book, he made Peter Navarro a White House advisor, and some people believe that the formula for Trump’s tariff policies may have been created by ChatGPT.
> All these years weren’t republicans the ones advocating for capitalism?
Both parties break the stereotype on this issue, so why are you ignoring that the democrats (who ostensibly don't want unregulated capitalism hurting workers) want to continue the status quo?
The democrats have no solution of their own to offshoring. If they ever passed their minimum wage increases, this would be an even more enticing loophole too.
Plus, the democrats constantly call Republicans fascist, but fascists are neither capitalist nor communist, and follow a "third position" economically.. So suggesting they are also capitalist and must fit into that mold contradicts what democrats say the other half the time.
Anonymous F double-posted this 6 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,419,794
Why is the republican response to any criticism of Trump being an idiot, "what about the democrats?" Either way, Trump is still an idiot, it doesn’t make Trump any less stupid. It’s not a valid argument. "Trump’s economic policy doesn’t make any sense." “What about the democrats? They call Trump a fascist!" Okay, Trump’s economic policy is still stupid.
> Why is the republican response to any criticism of Trump being an idiot, "what about the democrats?"
I never said "what about democrats" or anything like that, I pointed out that Anon Bs preconceptions about the parties doesnt match either parties positions on this issue.
You appear to be incapable of understanding the worss you are reading.
Instead of refuting anything I said, your entire point is that I pressed a button slightly to the left.
All leftist rhetoric is trivial like this. If it's not focusing on a typo it's name calling, strawmanning, or making up reasons for why they won't address the meat of the argument.
Anonymous H triple-posted this 3 hours ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,419,833
It’s really just as simple as tariffs are taxes and taxes cause deadweight losses and decrease consumer surplus. You don’t really have a counter argument to that, because it’s not possible to come up with a counter argument to that, because it’s just true. Tariffs are defined as a type of tax, and taxes just decrease consumer surplus. There’s no way around that. I’m just right. lol