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TheBlackestHistoryInTheWorld double-posted this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,833
I would think that the major difference between the internet and large language models is I need to use the internet to do everything and I have never needed a large language model to do anything.
TheBlackestHistoryInTheWorld triple-posted this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,835
I mean, really, what do I need a large language model for? It can do math, write code, and write English. But I can do math, write code, and write English. Between being an idiot who knows nothing and lets a tech company think on behalf of me or being a smart person who actually knows stuff, I think I’d rather be a smart person who actually knows stuff. For some reason I think that accepting anything a chatbot made by a tech company spits out at me as true is a bad idea. And maybe I’m a caveman for thinking that using my brain is a good idea, but if that makes me a caveman, then well I’m gonna be a caveman because they had larger brains.
LLMs can replace apps and you don't need to pay a monthly connection fee.
"I can do it myself". No one wants to deal with someone who does all the math by hand, it wastes everyone's time. Customer and boss are both annoyed. The whole plan is to make up work to justify your salary.
TheBlackestHistoryInTheWorld replied with this 2 hours ago, 11 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,843
@1,418,839 (boof)
Some species of premodern humans like Neanderthals had brain sizes that were slightly larger on average. If you look at a Neanderthal skull compared to a Homo sapiens skull, the Neanderthal skull is slightly longer.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 45 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,845
@OP
Anti AI?
Soon you will discover that AI may rival the invention of the WHEEL.
Oh IF you have some spare cash and you want to see it grow - YES NVIDIA Corp stock has become pricey recently. Its price will continue to rise and only because of AI.
TheBlackestHistoryInTheWorld replied with this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,846
@1,418,842 (B)
Sure dude. If you’re so confident go interview for an aerospace engineering role at Lockheed Martin and tell them you don’t know differential equations or linear algebra or physics, but you can ask ChatGPT to do the algebra for you. Let me know when you get hired.
TheBlackestHistoryInTheWorld replied with this 2 hours ago, 33 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,848
I swear, this is the dumbest argument ever. You don’t need an llm to do algebra, the fact that llms are probabilistic by nature means that they’ll always have some non-zero chance of making an error while doing algebra. Tools that can solve algebra problems have existed for years, wolfram alpha for example. But we still teach kids in high school calculus and we still have math teachers and universities still hire mathematicians. Math has been automated for way longer than programming, but people still get math degrees and still have careers in math. I’m sorry but the only reason why somebody would not want to think is because they’re stupid and if you think that money is the meaning of life and anything that doesn’t result in money isn’t worthwhile, then you’re stupid.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 hours ago, 10 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,849
@1,418,846 (TheBlackestHistoryInTheWorld)
Lockheed will have computer aided designs that are documented for each step, they do require the computer to do the math.
> I swear, this is the dumbest argument ever. You don’t need an llm to do algebra, the fact that llms are probabilistic by nature means that they’ll always have some non-zero chance of making an error while doing algebra.
This is a strawman, I said the computer could do math, not that you would use an LLM to do the math directly.
> Tools that can solve algebra problems have existed for years, wolfram alpha for example. But we still teach kids in high school calculus and we still have math teachers and universities still hire mathematicians. Math has been automated for way longer than programming, but people still get math degrees and still have careers in math. I’m sorry but the only reason why somebody would not want to think is because they’re stupid and if you think that money is the meaning of life and anything that doesn’t result in money isn’t worthwhile, then you’re stupid.
Every engineering firm uses CAD and written documentation to show the calculations they ran.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,854
You know what doesn’t make money? Paleontology and zoology. Don’t you think it’s cool that we know that sauropods and birds have the same unidirectional breathing system and the reason why birds have hollow bones is because it was originally an adaptation that allowed dinosaurs to grow larger bodies? There’s no money in knowing birds are saurischians, but I think it’s cool. We only absorb oxygen when we’re breathing in, birds can absorb oxygen when they’re breathing in and breathing out. How can I make money from that? I can’t. But isn’t it better that we live in a world where people know stuff?
Anonymous C replied with this 2 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,418,859
@previous (B)
Yes, they let us use calculators in high school. In college, there’s almost never been a reason to use a calculator in any of my math classes. Because a calculator will only help you with basic operations, and the point of learning math isn’t adding and subtracting and dividing. The point is understanding what’s going on conceptually. If you don’t do the algebra yourself you’ll get a grade but you won’t actually understand the math. You learn by doing hard things and making mistakes and learning from them.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,418,865
Literally on my computer science exams, they gave me code written in assembly, they gave me some inputs, and I had to figure out what the output was. And I’ve had other problems on exams where they gave me a diagram of a CPU cache with hexadecimal values stored in it, and they gave me a list of memory operations with the memory addresses encoded in hexadecimal and I had to figure out by hand whether those were cache hits or cache misses by hand and they didn’t let anybody bring a calculator to use on any of the problems. They didn’t let us use a computer, they expected us to know how a computer works and know how code works ourselves and be able to read through machine instructions and execute them step by step the same way a computer does without referencing anything. Because there’s inherently value in knowing stuff.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,418,867
@1,418,865 (C)
Take the time to actually meet and befriend a grad student, look at their home and see how they eat. Spending your life studying theory is unproductive and most contribute nothing of significance to culture.
Clients care about results and not about the effort you put in.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,418,871
@1,418,867 (B)
There’s more to life than money. It’s possible to be wealthy and profoundly unhappy at the same time. Plenty of poor people are losers and plenty of rich people are losers.
You’re also just wrong, there have been studies on this, over an entire lifetime, people who have at least a bachelors degree earn about a million dollars more than people who only have a high school diploma. And there are billionaires who went to graduate school. For example, the page rank algorithm that google is based on originally came out of graduate research at Stanford.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 hour ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,418,873
The thing about money is, money is not real. Money is only worth something because everyone believes that it is, the US dollar is fiat currency. Money is just an idea that somebody made up.
Anonymous C double-posted this 1 hour ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,418,874
And I’m serious about the college thing, there’s this stereotype of the Harvard drop out that went on to found a company and became a billionaire, like Mark Zuckerberg for example. But the thing is, he was smart enough to get into Harvard in the first place and he dropped out because his business was successful and school became a distraction from that. If you actually look into it, there are plenty of billionaires who went to college and didn’t drop out. Elon Musk went to the University of Pennsylvania, Jeff Bezos went to Princeton. Even Donald Trump went to college, he has a BS from the University of Pennsylvania.
Yes, and you shouldn't be wasting your time on pointless work.
> You’re also just wrong, there have been studies on this, over an entire lifetime, people who have at least a bachelors degree earn about a million dollars more than people who only have a high school diploma.
Correlation and causation are different. Wealthier people go to 4-year resorts where they are coddled and learn some some impractical theory and history to make themselves feel special, and then get a job from one of their other privileged friends with a big salary.
Middle class chumps take on high interest loans to pay for the same experience, come out trapped in debt and working minimum wage jobs.
People who own luxury cars make more on average over their lifetime, but if you take out a big loan to buy one you'll be poorer not richer.
> And there are billionaires who went to graduate school. For example, the page rank algorithm that google is based on originally came out of graduate research at Stanford.
The elite can afford to spend their time on that, they'd be rich even if they didn't go. You might as well point to those people going to spas more as the answer to getting rich.
Anonymous C double-posted this 1 hour ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,418,877
Really, the argument you’re making is just so insane to me. Do you have any idea how many technologies never would have been invented and how many people would have died unnecessarily if it wasn’t for people who dedicated their lives to expanding the scientific knowledge of humanity at universities? Back when Leonardo da Vinci or Aristotle were studying human anatomy, they couldn’t do much with the knowledge, but later knowledge that was built on top of theirs centuries later has probably resulted in a lot of unnecessary deaths being prevented. Profitability isn’t a good metric for whether something is worthwhile. If it was left entirely to the private sector, space travel wouldn’t exist. The first space programs were funded by governments.
This isn't even that critical, it's nuanced and he says he sees the use in AI but that it's misused and people have a genuine worry about being replaced by a bot.
Finding a bug doesn't undo the practical applications. Every technology that's been adopted has had errors, inefficiencies, and dangers. People still drive cars even though recalls happen and people die.
If you saved $200k/year for your business by replacing a few customer support agents with a web bot, is this a significant issue? Someone might ask a trick question and the AI will make a small mistake.
Millions of uber and truck drivers can get together and share videos of self driving cars malfunctioning too, but it won't undo the fact that humans make the same mistakes and do it more often.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 25 minutes ago, 27 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,418,888
@previous (B)
You strike me as a stubborn guy who doesn’t know anything but thinks he’s smart simply because he’s so stubborn he never changes his mind despite not knowing anything.
Anonymous F double-posted this 23 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,418,889
I also find your IQ obsession ironic considering you’re so defensive of the idea that you don’t need to understand anything because AI can do it for you, which is an incredibly low IQ take.
Anonymous F triple-posted this 21 minutes ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,418,890
If you were smart, why would you even make this argument in the first place? If you were smart enough to understand things, then you would just understand things. A smart person wouldn’t even need to make the argument that being smart isn’t important.
Anonymous F quadruple-posted this 19 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,418,891
And I mean sure, you buy into the pseudoscience that white people have higher IQs. But even if that were the case, having a high IQ doesn’t get you anything if you don’t use it. You need knowledge to apply your intelligence to, otherwise intelligence is useless. So whatever narcissistic ideas you have about being smart because you’re white, they’re not going to help you ever accomplish anything.