The Af. started this discussion 1 month ago#132,718
I’ve noticed there are some people on the internet like Nick Fuentes who just say shocking controversial things because that gets clicks and that gets attention and that gets money. But I’m in my 20s, and I know that everybody who was popular on the internet when I was a 10 year old is irrelevant now. Internet fame doesn’t really last that long, eventually the algorithms just forget about you. I really wonder what his life is going to be like someday when he has to make money some way other than saying "Epstein is cool as fuck" once his audience turns 16. Being stupid edgy is funny from the ages of 13 to 15, but as soon as you turn 16, you age out of that. Unless your brain stops developing at 14, which happens to about 30% of the American population.
The Af. (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later[^][v]#1,416,298
This is basically the political equivalent of staring in shit porn because it pays more than regular porn. Like yeah, you’re making money in the short run, but in the long run, how is this not social suicide?
The Af. (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,416,301
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I’m just curious what’s going to happen to him in the future. Because he’s 27 now. He obviously feels like he’s on top of the world and can say whatever he wants and get away with saying stupid shit all the time. I just want to take a time machine to when he’s 40 and see what his life is. I’m just interested to know how this turns out in the end. Because right now, he appears to be going full retard.
The Af. (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,416,302
Half black, half Asian, and half Mexican Nazis… I’m just saying, I’m not sure how many options an individual can have. I’m pretty sure these social media idiots are going to alienate themselves from Nazis and normal people at the same time.
> Half black, half Asian, and half Mexican Nazis… I’m just saying, I’m not sure how many options an individual can have. I’m pretty sure these social media idiots are going to alienate themselves from Nazis and normal people at the same time. > >https://youtu.be/OG-mPlvS_qs
Think about it: They are in a Miami club, rocking out to a Heil Hitler song by a bipolar Black Hip Hop genius. They are in a Miami club and there’s not a woman in sight.
> This is basically the political equivalent of staring in shit porn because it pays more than regular porn. Like yeah, you’re making money in the short run, but in the long run, how is this not social suicide? > >https://youtu.be/uIhEWVGh0fQ
I couldn’t have said it better. They want clicks and attention. They’re in so deep there’s no “youthful indiscretion.” I just don’t see the appeal of any of these clowns.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 weeks later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,181
This thread makes a good point. These guys are hard into their lies and characters. Thing is, they have public profiles and a digital ledger of their activities. Who are they at 50?
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,182
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I’m OP, but it was two weeks ago so I’ve cleared my cookies several times since then.
Honestly, I don’t use social media. I think given how the world’s going, politics are extreme, it’s not clear which side will win in the end, ignoring preferences and feelings, we all have our preferences left vs right, it’s not clear long term how the country will go, I think the answer is to say nothing. Saying nothing is smarter than saying anything, because however the culture shifts, if you never said anything, nobody can say anything about you.
Anonymous I double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,183
Which I know that in America there’s this strong libertarian pro free speech "say what you want even if it offends people because that’s your right!" But like… that’s sort of intangible. I want material success, and I’m not going to risk it over something stupid.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 28 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,191
These guys are plain assholes and grifters. They can make money ranting online about looks, women, race, and get enough attention that they receive money for their banter.
I wonder about young people who aren’t assholes and whether the de facto blockchain of their social media will get them “canceled” or worse in subsequent decades.
I think about dumb shit my friends and I did, relationships that flamed out, and it was a learning experience. All mostly forgotten and no existent record. Now, someone could come after you for an “insensitive” picture, comment, upvote, opinion, etc., from years ago. You can’t event delete anything without it being captured elsewhere.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,192
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I think half the problem is there are two sides, half the time one of those two sides is in power, and they want you to say opposite things.
Anonymous I double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,193
For example: either you have to be for or against immigration, so either you’re a Marxist responsible for Maos famines or a racist responsible for the Holocaust. Just depends on which way the wind is blowing.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,201
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In Germany when the Nazis took power, the second most popular political movement after the Nazis was actually the socialists. Emotion inspires the masses more than logic, the Nazis were actually democratically elected into power.
Anonymous M triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,203
Of course what happens is the most extreme interpretation of the right is that selfishness is natural, tribalism is natural, and to have a strong tribe you need to fight and you need to rid your tribe of weakness. Which leads to exterminating minorities and disabled people and which leads to the justification of imperialism.
The most extreme interpretation of the left is that we are all equal and if anyone is not equal they’re doing something wrong, so you should harshly punish people for not working for the interest of the collective and individual rights and liberties don’t matter if they don’t benefit the collective. Which leads to reeducation camps, highly questionable theories of how democracy should work (centralism), etc.
> Of course what happens is the most extreme interpretation of the right is that selfishness is natural, tribalism is natural, and to have a strong tribe you need to fight and you need to rid your tribe of weakness. Which leads to exterminating minorities and disabled people and which leads to the justification of imperialism. > > The most extreme interpretation of the left is that we are all equal and if anyone is not equal they’re doing something wrong, so you should harshly punish people for not working for the interest of the collective and individual rights and liberties don’t matter if they don’t benefit the collective. Which leads to reeducation camps, highly questionable theories of how democracy should work (centralism), etc.
The left has never come by equality honesty because you always have trade union leaders, party leaders, a dictatorship of the proletariat. The far right is more honest about wanting a monarch or chieftain.
I never thought about applying the Overton Window to Germany but it makes sense. In times of stress and chaos the fringes offer easy answers and catchy slogans.
> It’s ironic though since Germany really would have been a lot better off if they literally didn’t do anything at all.
A good economic policy would have mooted the Nazis and communists. It makes me wonder if Russia would have advanced on Europe. Imagine a scenario where Poland, Germany, and Yugoslavia battle a Soviet invasion, while the UK Royal Navy blockades Leningrad.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,389
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Given that the Nazis took the Soviets by surprise and almost pushed them back to Moscow and the war ended with Soviet tanks in Berlin, if the Soviet Union was the one pushing west by surprise instead, the Soviets might have taken even more territory.
Anonymous Q double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,390
Although, I could be wrong because it seems like Russia is better at wars of attrition than they are at doing a blitzkrieg. In Ukraine for example, they tried to do a blitzkrieg so they went straight to Kyiv, but something was off. I think the mistake was they were thinking they could do something similar to Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Except Hitler drafted millions of people right off the bat, Putin didn’t do that, but he was trying to use tactics in the past that would have been done with a significantly larger force. Although, the soviets probably wouldn’t have hesitated to draft millions of people. So idk.
Anonymous Q triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,391
The Soviets even drafted 800,000 women back in the 1940s. Even today in the US there are still some conservatives who are against drafting women, so that also sort of shows what kind of mindset the Soviets had. They might have been more willing to do a mass mobilization than modern Russia.
Anonymous Q quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 3 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,420,392
…although I’m sure if you asked a republican senator if Israel should stop drafting women you’d be hard pressed to get them to muster up a criticism of our greatest ally.
> Although, I could be wrong because it seems like Russia is better at wars of attrition than they are at doing a blitzkrieg. In Ukraine for example, they tried to do a blitzkrieg so they went straight to Kyiv, but something was off. I think the mistake was they were thinking they could do something similar to Hitler’s invasion of Poland. Except Hitler drafted millions of people right off the bat, Putin didn’t do that, but he was trying to use tactics in the past that would have been done with a significantly larger force. Although, the soviets probably wouldn’t have hesitated to draft millions of people. So idk.
Russia has taken enormous casualties back to the czars. Putin could have won early and easily but he fired all his critical reformers in 2011-2013, logistics remained historically weak, and rampant corruption has military men selling tank engines and soldier equipment online. Plus, the Ukrainian military of 2022 wasn’t the force steam rolled in 2014.