Topic: You can see why MAGA types are angry based on the ads in their “media.”
Anonymous A started this discussion 4 days ago #132,606
Impotence, obesity, diabetes, toenail fungus, obsessed with “celebrities we’ve lost in 2026 (number 3 will shock you!),” and all kinds of miracle cure supplements, along with fraudulent financial planning advice.
They’re credulous and unhealthy, eating bad food and filling their minds with dumb shit, but somehow it’s the fault of Woke tranny Mexican fags.
They’re credulous and unhealthy, eating bad food and filling their minds with dumb shit, but somehow it’s the fault of Woke tranny Mexican fags.
boof joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,415,473
terrible!
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,492
Have you ever noticed poor uneducated whites are more likely to believe that race science says whites have higher IQs than everybody else?
It’s interesting. They’re sitting there eating chicken nuggets from McDonalds on their couch, watching Fox News on cable - West Virginia coal miners out of work, thinking it’s because of Mexicans instead of industrial mining and natural gas. These are the most highly evolved biologically superior specimen known to science, it’s just the communists want to hide the truth. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
It’s interesting. They’re sitting there eating chicken nuggets from McDonalds on their couch, watching Fox News on cable - West Virginia coal miners out of work, thinking it’s because of Mexicans instead of industrial mining and natural gas. These are the most highly evolved biologically superior specimen known to science, it’s just the communists want to hide the truth. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 17 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,581
@previous (C)
> Have you ever noticed poor uneducated whites are more likely to believe that race science says whites have higher IQs than everybody else?
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> It’s interesting. They’re sitting there eating chicken nuggets from McDonalds on their couch, watching Fox News on cable - West Virginia coal miners out of work, thinking it’s because of Mexicans instead of industrial mining and natural gas. These are the most highly evolved biologically superior specimen known to science, it’s just the communists want to hide the truth. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
People who have little accomplishment in their lives tend to fall back on group identity to bolster their ego. Race, religion, a mix of the two, regionalism, sports teams, you name it. A skinhead is little different than a Black Hebrew Israelite or an evangelical fanatic embracing Christian nationalism.
> Have you ever noticed poor uneducated whites are more likely to believe that race science says whites have higher IQs than everybody else?
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> It’s interesting. They’re sitting there eating chicken nuggets from McDonalds on their couch, watching Fox News on cable - West Virginia coal miners out of work, thinking it’s because of Mexicans instead of industrial mining and natural gas. These are the most highly evolved biologically superior specimen known to science, it’s just the communists want to hide the truth. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
People who have little accomplishment in their lives tend to fall back on group identity to bolster their ego. Race, religion, a mix of the two, regionalism, sports teams, you name it. A skinhead is little different than a Black Hebrew Israelite or an evangelical fanatic embracing Christian nationalism.
The Africa joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 12 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,584
@previous (D)
I find those conspiracy theories that blacks are the real Jews or blacks are the real native Americans to be strange. I mean, Homo sapiens evolved in Africa, you can claim that everybody in the world has African ancestry because of that. It doesn’t make sense to want to claim the achievements of another "race" to make black people seem more accomplished when Africans were the first people anyway and you don’t have to make up some grand conspiracy, it’s just genetics. There were Neanderthals in Europe, Denisovans in Asia, and then Homo sapiens came out of Africa and all the other species of humans went extinct either through interbreeding or warfare or whatever.
I find those conspiracy theories that blacks are the real Jews or blacks are the real native Americans to be strange. I mean, Homo sapiens evolved in Africa, you can claim that everybody in the world has African ancestry because of that. It doesn’t make sense to want to claim the achievements of another "race" to make black people seem more accomplished when Africans were the first people anyway and you don’t have to make up some grand conspiracy, it’s just genetics. There were Neanderthals in Europe, Denisovans in Asia, and then Homo sapiens came out of Africa and all the other species of humans went extinct either through interbreeding or warfare or whatever.
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The Africa replied with this 3 days ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,588
The first Europeans actually had dark skin, even the first humans in the British Isles had dark skin, but it took thousands of years for genes associated with light skin to be selected for. The whole concept of racial supremacy is kind of weird when everybody shares ancestry. A European race or an African race doesn’t really mean anything.
The Africa double-posted this 3 days ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,589
Even though Homo sapiens have existed for 300,000 years agriculture developed independently in different parts of the world about 10,000 years ago, because that’s when the Earth’s climate stabilized to allow for the development of agriculture. There’s no difference in intelligence that suddenly evolved in random unrelated parts of the world at the same time by pure coincidence.
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Anonymous F replied with this 3 days ago, 42 seconds later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,590
The Africa replied with this 3 days ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,591
@previous (F)
Those are Neanderthals. Europeans have a small amount of Neanderthal DNA but are mostly Homo sapiens.
Those are Neanderthals. Europeans have a small amount of Neanderthal DNA but are mostly Homo sapiens.
The Africa double-posted this 3 days ago, 6 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,592
It’s ironic because if you look into it, Sub Saharan African populations didn’t encounter Neanderthals some Neanderthals lived in Europe and they didn’t encounter Denisovans because Denisovans lived in Asia, so Sub Saharan Africas technically have the most pure Homo sapiens DNA even though in the past racists always categorized them as the least pure. Nobody is superior or inferior to anybody else because they have or don’t have Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA, but it is a bit funny.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 49 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,626
@1,415,492 (C)
Do you have any source to show that parental income matters more than IQ?
We both agreed the NLSY I gave showed that IQ was a better predictor for life outcomes, but you could never find a scientific paper backing up your claim that parental income was better. You found an article suggesting it was but never found the scientific paper backing that up. Then you said you would just believe it anyway. Then you suggested Neitzche was talking about rejecting science to make up our own meaning.
Have you found any published scientific work verifying your view yet?
Do you have any source to show that parental income matters more than IQ?
We both agreed the NLSY I gave showed that IQ was a better predictor for life outcomes, but you could never find a scientific paper backing up your claim that parental income was better. You found an article suggesting it was but never found the scientific paper backing that up. Then you said you would just believe it anyway. Then you suggested Neitzche was talking about rejecting science to make up our own meaning.
Have you found any published scientific work verifying your view yet?
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Anonymous I replied with this 2 days ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,728
@previous (J)
You gave the correlation coefficent for IQs effect on income: https://minichan.net/topic/132470#reply_1414343
Which is higher than the same study gave for family income.
Yea, you never admitted the same study gave a lower figure for family income, instead you looked up a random article without the basic element of a scientific paper to find a higher figure for family income.
You never denied the NLSY gave a higher coefficient for IQ, you just ignored that.
Ignoring science that disagrees with your worldview is exactly in line with leftism though, just like the Stalinists who rejected genetics because they thought the entire field was racist lol.
You gave the correlation coefficent for IQs effect on income: https://minichan.net/topic/132470#reply_1414343
Which is higher than the same study gave for family income.
Yea, you never admitted the same study gave a lower figure for family income, instead you looked up a random article without the basic element of a scientific paper to find a higher figure for family income.
You never denied the NLSY gave a higher coefficient for IQ, you just ignored that.
Ignoring science that disagrees with your worldview is exactly in line with leftism though, just like the Stalinists who rejected genetics because they thought the entire field was racist lol.
The Africa joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,729
The Africa double-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,730
Part of the reason why I lost interest in your argument is when I googled it, all of the sources that came up talking about NLSY being evidence that races have different IQs said that this was Douglas Murray’s interpretation in his book the Bell Curve, which is pretty widely understood to be pseudoscience.
The Africa triple-posted this 2 days ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,731
And, you brought it up, so that’s why I’m talking about it now, but communism is an economic ideology. Marxism is just an idea about economics, Marxism doesn’t say how a government should be structured. The first Marxist government was Russia under Vladimir Lenin. Lenin was an authoritarian which is why there’s a thing called Marxist-Leninism, Lenin came up with a system of government to go along with the economic ideology, a system of government which I do not agree with, because I’m pro democracy. I also wouldn’t consider myself to be a Marxist either. I just think people should have access to healthcare.
The Africa quadruple-posted this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,732
And if you think that me believing that blacks are equal to whites makes me a Stalinist, you might be a Nazi.
I’m just saying, if that’s your standard for who counts as a Stalinist, then at face value, most Americans are Stalinists, so I think the real problem is you have an incorrect definition of what a Stalinist is because you’re an ideologue.
I’m just saying, if that’s your standard for who counts as a Stalinist, then at face value, most Americans are Stalinists, so I think the real problem is you have an incorrect definition of what a Stalinist is because you’re an ideologue.
The Africa quintuple-posted this 2 days ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,733
I’m not really an extremist on anything. If you take my worldview at face value and you compare it to the constitution of the United States, my core disagreement with you is in the constitution, "All men are created equal." I’m not some radical Stalinist, if anything my beliefs are completely compatible if not identical to what’s in the constitution so if you’re saying I’m the crazy one, you’re probably the radicalized ideologue not me.
The Africa sextuple-posted this 2 days ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,734
Now, there’s a difference between liberal democracy and Marxism. They might sound a bit similar actually "all men are created equal" might sound kind of communist. But the key difference is equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome and the implications of this. You see, your problem is you notice that there’s not an equality of outcome so you assume that must mean some people are inferior to other people, which is sort of a reverse implication fallacy going on. What a liberal democrat believes is that all people are created equal, but not everyone will have the same conditions in life and that results in different outcomes, and those differences shouldn’t be too extreme but some level of it is natural (what I believe in). What a Marxist believes is that all people are created equal, therefore all people deserve the same outcome, therefore, we should make everyone have the same outcome (sort of). There are other interpretations that acknowledge that some people are better at certain things than other people. But that’s like a general vague idea of it.
The Africa septuple-posted this 2 days ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,735
It’s like, if it’s raining, the streets are wet. The streets are wet. Does that mean it’s raining? Not necessarily. You can’t seem to wrap your head around the correlation between race and income can work the same way logically. It doesn’t matter if the correlation you’re proposing is true or false, it’s not evidence of implication one way or the other way, the implication could be in either direction or neither and caused by a third thing. But you think too linearly.
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The Africa octuple-posted this 2 days ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,741
Then when where equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome relates to economics is whether you value economic efficiency or whether you value economic equality. This isn’t a binary thing with a correct choice and an incorrect choice as much as people will tell you that it is. The United States is actually a mixed market economy. But whatever, you don’t care about that.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 days ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,756
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@1,415,732 (The Africa)
Dismissing science because it contradicts your idealistic view that all humans are the same is no different than Lysenkoism.
Dismissing science because it contradicts your idealistic view that all humans are the same is no different than Lysenkoism.
Anonymous I quadruple-posted this 2 days ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,759
The Africa joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,783
The Africa double-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,784
@1,415,758 (I)
> Dismissing science because it contradicts your idealistic view that all humans are the same is no different than Lysenkoism.
Racial segregation doesn’t exist in any country in the world because most people think all races are equal, therefore according to you the whole planet is Stalinist.
I think you’re the delusional one not everyone else.
> Dismissing science because it contradicts your idealistic view that all humans are the same is no different than Lysenkoism.
Racial segregation doesn’t exist in any country in the world because most people think all races are equal, therefore according to you the whole planet is Stalinist.
I think you’re the delusional one not everyone else.
The Africa triple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,785
It’s obvious that you’re motivated by selfishness and deep insecurity from your bratty childish comments about humanoid robots taking over Africa. If you weren’t such an evil bastard I’d pity you.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 days ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,786
@1,415,784 (The Africa)
> Racial segregation doesn’t exist in any country in the world because most people think all races are equal
No, most countries do not have much racial diversity to begin with.
> therefore according to you the whole planet is Stalinist.
No, again a strawman. Stalin was unique in denying the science of genetics. There's no country in the world that rejects genetics today, that stopped with Stalin.
The woke left in the west is following in his footsteps by denying the science behind IQ because it doesnt fit their ideology. That is comparable to Lysenkoist views.
> I think you’re the delusional one not everyone else.
It's hilarious that you don't think racism exists outside the right-wing white west.
> Racial segregation doesn’t exist in any country in the world because most people think all races are equal
No, most countries do not have much racial diversity to begin with.
> therefore according to you the whole planet is Stalinist.
No, again a strawman. Stalin was unique in denying the science of genetics. There's no country in the world that rejects genetics today, that stopped with Stalin.
The woke left in the west is following in his footsteps by denying the science behind IQ because it doesnt fit their ideology. That is comparable to Lysenkoist views.
> I think you’re the delusional one not everyone else.
It's hilarious that you don't think racism exists outside the right-wing white west.
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Anonymous I double-posted this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,787
@1,415,785 (The Africa)
Basing beliefs on science isn't selfish, because the science will never line up perfectly with anyone's self-interest.
Basing beliefs on science isn't selfish, because the science will never line up perfectly with anyone's self-interest.
The Africa joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,792
@1,415,786 (I)
I’ve always had friends of different races. I went to high school with a lot of East Asian students who were mostly Chinese and Korean, and I’ve had Arab friends. I’ve never met an Arab or an Asian who believed that blacks are less intelligent than whites, in high school, the Asian kids would make self deprecating jokes about how the white kids think all Asians are nerds. It’s not a coincidence that all the "science" (pseudoscience) that claims that whites are superior to blacks exclusively comes from the race that enslaved blacks. I don’t exactly understand why you would expect me to believe in something that’s so obviously false when I can clearly see there are plenty of white people (especially you) who are significantly less intelligent than I am.
I’ve always had friends of different races. I went to high school with a lot of East Asian students who were mostly Chinese and Korean, and I’ve had Arab friends. I’ve never met an Arab or an Asian who believed that blacks are less intelligent than whites, in high school, the Asian kids would make self deprecating jokes about how the white kids think all Asians are nerds. It’s not a coincidence that all the "science" (pseudoscience) that claims that whites are superior to blacks exclusively comes from the race that enslaved blacks. I don’t exactly understand why you would expect me to believe in something that’s so obviously false when I can clearly see there are plenty of white people (especially you) who are significantly less intelligent than I am.
The Africa double-posted this 2 days ago, 48 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,794
@1,415,787 (I)
> Basing beliefs on science isn't selfish, because the science will never line up perfectly with anyone's self-interest.
So then why did you reject genetics? I gave you a detailed explanation of why races don’t actually biologically exist, and you completely rejected it with no evidence to the contrary.
> Basing beliefs on science isn't selfish, because the science will never line up perfectly with anyone's self-interest.
So then why did you reject genetics? I gave you a detailed explanation of why races don’t actually biologically exist, and you completely rejected it with no evidence to the contrary.
The Africa triple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,796
I’ve also met Pakistani and Indian people and none of them ever said anything even close to as racist as what you’ve said to me. Even the one or two Asians I’ve met who didn’t like me were way more polite and they change their mind. Obsessive ideological racism is an insecure white guy thing. Nobody else has this problem to this extent. I’ve even met Russians who were better than you are.
The Africa quadruple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,797
Or hell, I’ve even met Iranians, and none of them were remotely similar to you.
The Africa quintuple-posted this 2 days ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,798
I’ve met Japanese people who didn’t have this problem. The list goes on.
The Africa sextuple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,799
The fact that you’re even trying to argue with me about this is stupid, because if you were smart you’d realize that it’s completely against my self interest to agree with you regardless of whether you’re correct or incorrect (but believe me, I know that you’re incorrect). So why are you even trying to convince me that I’m worse than you are? If you had a brain you’d realize that I’m never going to agree to that.
The Africa septuple-posted this 2 days ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,800
It has nothing to do with being woke or leftist, I’m a black person, I know that I’m not inferior to you, if anything, I think I’m way better than you. So you can’t convince me, because I know who I am.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,801
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The Africa double-posted this 2 days ago, 18 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,802
And by the way: I called you stupid because I actually do think that you are a stupid person. I do not think that you are smart, and I think that I am a lot smarter than you are.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,859
@1,415,584 (The Africa)
> I find those conspiracy theories that blacks are the real Jews or blacks are the real native Americans to be strange. I mean, Homo sapiens evolved in Africa, you can claim that everybody in the world has African ancestry because of that. It doesn’t make sense to want to claim the achievements of another "race" to make black people seem more accomplished when Africans were the first people anyway and you don’t have to make up some grand conspiracy, it’s just genetics. There were Neanderthals in Europe, Denisovans in Asia, and then Homo sapiens came out of Africa and all the other species of humans went extinct either through interbreeding or warfare or whatever.
The 12 tribes nonsense also fueled British Israelism and Christian Identity (Nazis). It’s all make-believe.
> I find those conspiracy theories that blacks are the real Jews or blacks are the real native Americans to be strange. I mean, Homo sapiens evolved in Africa, you can claim that everybody in the world has African ancestry because of that. It doesn’t make sense to want to claim the achievements of another "race" to make black people seem more accomplished when Africans were the first people anyway and you don’t have to make up some grand conspiracy, it’s just genetics. There were Neanderthals in Europe, Denisovans in Asia, and then Homo sapiens came out of Africa and all the other species of humans went extinct either through interbreeding or warfare or whatever.
The 12 tribes nonsense also fueled British Israelism and Christian Identity (Nazis). It’s all make-believe.
Anonymous O double-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,860
@1,415,794 (The Africa)
> > Basing beliefs on science isn't selfish, because the science will never line up perfectly with anyone's self-interest.
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> So then why did you reject genetics? I gave you a detailed explanation of why races don’t actually biologically exist, and you completely rejected it with no evidence to the contrary.
Check the research into alleles. There are subtle differences to adapt to particular geographies. The Tibetans have a unique Denisovian heritage that lets them breathe where we would gasp. Dark skin for hot climates and white skin for sun deprived northern reaches for Vitamin D.
None of this makes anyone better or worse than anyone else.
> > Basing beliefs on science isn't selfish, because the science will never line up perfectly with anyone's self-interest.
>
> So then why did you reject genetics? I gave you a detailed explanation of why races don’t actually biologically exist, and you completely rejected it with no evidence to the contrary.
Check the research into alleles. There are subtle differences to adapt to particular geographies. The Tibetans have a unique Denisovian heritage that lets them breathe where we would gasp. Dark skin for hot climates and white skin for sun deprived northern reaches for Vitamin D.
None of this makes anyone better or worse than anyone else.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,861
@1,415,859 (O)
The British originally wanted to create the Israeli state in Uganda and the Israelis collaborated with Apartheid South Africa to create nuclear weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Uganda_Programme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident
Yet white supremacists claim white replacement is a Jewish conspiracy to replace Europe with Africans.
All their beliefs are easy to spot bullshit with the slightest bit of historical knowledge, but sadly it seems most people lack basic critical thinking skills.
The British originally wanted to create the Israeli state in Uganda and the Israelis collaborated with Apartheid South Africa to create nuclear weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Uganda_Programme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident
Yet white supremacists claim white replacement is a Jewish conspiracy to replace Europe with Africans.
All their beliefs are easy to spot bullshit with the slightest bit of historical knowledge, but sadly it seems most people lack basic critical thinking skills.
Anonymous P double-posted this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,862
Even the "white genocide" accusation made by the US was just a whataboutism to South Africa accusing a US ally of genocide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel
Anonymous P triple-posted this 1 day ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,863
There’s a reason why white supremacists hate South Africa more than they hate other African countries that are actually less successful on paper than South Africa. They have a fear of what would happen if non-whites became more powerful than whites. It’s the same thing in Asia and Latin America.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 day ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,415,900
@1,415,799 (The Africa)
> The fact that you’re even trying to argue with me about this is stupid, because if you were smart you’d realize that it’s completely against my self interest to agree with you regardless of whether you’re correct or incorrect
You're admitting dishonesty. Truth isn't against your interests.
Consider women. You're Catholic, you know how women are, so tell me: would they be better off admitting the truth so they could live better?
> The fact that you’re even trying to argue with me about this is stupid, because if you were smart you’d realize that it’s completely against my self interest to agree with you regardless of whether you’re correct or incorrect
You're admitting dishonesty. Truth isn't against your interests.
Consider women. You're Catholic, you know how women are, so tell me: would they be better off admitting the truth so they could live better?