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Topic: Jihad vs white supremacy

Anonymous A started this discussion 1 day ago #132,486

Have you ever noticed if you talk to an Islamic fundamentalist and you talk to a white supremacist they both hate each other but have almost the exact same personality traits?

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 day ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #1,414,448

A white supremacist thinks white people are the solution to all problems and if everyone was white that would create a utopia. A jihadist believes that Islam is the solution to all problems and if everyone was Muslim that would create a utopia.

Islamic fundamentalists believe that Jews are evil, so do white supremacists.

Islamic fundamentalists believe that violence is justified in order to protect their ideology. White supremacists believe the same thing.

Islamic fundamentalists are so fundamentally obsessed with Islam they think that Islam is the absolute truth and it’s impossible to convince them they’re wrong no matter what arguments or evidence you show them, white supremacists are the exact same way.

I could go on and on, but it strikes me how it seems like jihadism and white supremacy are two paths of radicalism that appeal to psychopaths. Just one appeal to brown psychopaths and one appeals to white psychopaths. But there’s almost no difference at all.

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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 49 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,458

Almost as if they both understand that we live in a world where tribes compete, and both want their tribe to win. It's not hard to understand.

Two guys both want a promotion at work, but neither wants the other to get that promotion- hypocrisy much??? no, actually, it's clear they are both self-interested.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 day ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,467

@previous (B)
What are you, a caveman?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,471

I found a jihad themed website the other night that included the following passage. I hate to admit the absurdity made me laugh

> As you can see Morena is a mousey faced slut with average titties. Her only redeeming quality appears to be that she enjoys cutting her hair short, so that she can try to pass herself off as a bacha bazi (dancing boy).
>
> Of course even with her pleasingly unfeminine hairstyle, Morena will still never get to experience the unimaginable pleasure of having her sin holes stretched wide open by the massive manhood of a virile Muslim man. For us Muslims are far too smart to fall for Morena’s tricks, as we know that real bacha bazi’s don’t have vaginas… And their anus holes are considerably tighter.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,473

@previous (C)

> I found a jihad themed website the other night that included the following passage. I hate to admit the absurdity made me laugh
>
> >As you can see Morena is a mousey faced slut with average titties. Her only redeeming quality appears to be that she enjoys cutting her hair short, so that she can try to pass herself off as a bacha bazi (dancing boy).
> >
> >Of course even with her pleasingly unfeminine hairstyle, Morena will still never get to experience the unimaginable pleasure of having her sin holes stretched wide open by the massive manhood of a virile Muslim man. For us Muslims are far too smart to fall for Morena’s tricks, as we know that real bacha bazi’s don’t have vaginas… And their anus holes are considerably tighter.

Wow what a hate-filled Muslim faggot he is. Or is it a troll who hates Muslims, like a clever Indian Hindu with cultural knowledge? Must be talking about Morena Baccarin, the hot Brazilian actress who looks like Ashley Judd used to.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 day ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,474

@previous (D)
I read it a few times and I can’t tell which it is because it’s so incoherent.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,475

Jihadism and Nazism have shared traits and mutual admiration. Himmler loved Islam. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was pro-Hitler.

One of Churchill’s books called Mein Kampf the “Koran” of the Nazi movement.

The core shared trait is espousing redemption through war and conquest and exterminating one’s enemies. Both essentially are sword and sorcery ideologies. Kill or enslave all the orcs and bring heaven to earth.

Anonymous D double-posted this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,476

@1,414,474 (A)

> I read it a few times and I can’t tell which it is because it’s so incoherent.

Bacha bazi is very Afghan specific. At the same time, DH Lawrence noted this behavior was widespread among Arabs in his Seven Pillars of Wisdom.

Pretty much every sex segregated society turns into a prison shower room. Yuck.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 day ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,478

@1,414,475 (D)
The thing that annoys me about it is white supremacists will read Nazi psudoscience and think they’re geniuses discovering forbidden knowledge. But the thing is, we already ran the experiment in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and imperial Japan. The Nazis thought they were better than everybody else, but they lost because they were wrong. Narcissistic people desperately want to believe they are special and better than everybody else for being born, but the actual truth is that all humans are the same. If Europe and the United States tried to take over the world, they would fail spectacularly. The US couldn’t even conquer Afghanistan. Since nuclear weapons were invented, European empires will never exist again. Non white countries have the ability to vaporize London and DC. White supremacy is a total non-starter.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 day ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,480

@1,414,476 (D)
I guess I just am lacking the contextual knowledge to know wtf that guy was talking about because when I read it I didn’t understand it lol

Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 1 day ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,482

It’s also not really even science. You don’t make scientific progress by trying to prove yourself right, you make it by trying to prove yourself wrong. But white supremacists never try to prove themselves wrong and they’ll always ignore 10 reasons why they’re wrong in favor for 1 reason why they’re right.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 day ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,484

@previous (A)

> It’s also not really even science. You don’t make scientific progress by trying to prove yourself right, you make it by trying to prove yourself wrong. But white supremacists never try to prove themselves wrong and they’ll always ignore 10 reasons why they’re wrong in favor for 1 reason why they’re right.

It’s a cognitive bias with selection bias, and use of other fallacies. IQ tests originally were determinative. Nazism was untenable. You can’t concentrate all power in one leader and his cadre, more so when he had Parkinson’s at stage 3 by 1943-1944.

The Nazis never had good logistics or centralized R&D. Total war was too late to matter. Nobody challenged splitting the army groups. The Nazis could have won by seizing the Middle East and Suez, which would have forced British surrender. Hit the Baku oil fields with three army groups and Russia would have crashed out.

Rigid doctrine and fanatical policies lose. The Young Turks and Chetniks and Russian Nationalists all achieved the exact opposite of their aims as well. As did the Hutus.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 day ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,508

@1,414,482 (A)
Then give a scientific study contradicting something that's been said.

You started to look for evidence that family income mattered more than IQ and gave up when you couldn't find a study that actually had the bare essentials for a scientific study like methodology and sample size.

If the only study either of us can come up with is the NLSY, which says IQ is better than family income, then following the science means that's the best answer we have.

Have you ever found a study, shared it here, and then I denied it? No. I even said I'd be open to changing my mind if you could.

Coming up with hypothetical studies in your head and then blaming me when I don't change my mind is incredibly stupid.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,509

@previous (B)
No I gave up when I got bored of talking to you when I found out through a couple google searches that the entire premise of your argument is based on a misrepresentation of data.

Anonymous E double-posted this 1 day ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,510

If your entire argument about biological determinism and race hinges on income being determined by IQ, but 79% of income isn’t correlated with IQ, then as far as I’m concerned, you don’t really have a point. Because if income is mostly not determined by IQ, then it doesn’t even matter if race and IQ are correlated because the chain of reasoning is broken.


You think:

Race -> IQ -> success

But if IQ -> success is false, then you’ve lost the plot, the argument doesn’t work.

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Anonymous E triple-posted this 1 day ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,511

Now, I know you’re arguing it’s not completely false, and yeah that’s true, most things like this in real life are fuzzy. But if 21% of income is caused by IQ, that means it’s mostly false that income is the result of IQ. So why would you base your entire worldview over something that’s more often not true than true?

Anonymous E quadruple-posted this 1 day ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,512

Then you keep conflating the concept of race being correlated with IQ with IQ being caused by race. There’s no evidence that IQ is caused by race. Not everyone on every continent in every country in the world has the same access to food and education. But you have no actual proof that race causes IQ, you keep trying to come up with justifications for it, but justifications aren’t the same as evidence. You have no evidence that IQ differences between populations aren’t caused by wealth differences. And saying that wealth and IQ are correlated also isn’t evidence that IQ causes wealth, because if wealth caused IQ you would expect to find exactly the same correlation. Your beliefs aren’t rational.

Anonymous E quintuple-posted this 1 day ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,514

Now there’s also a premise that you haven’t explicitly stated that biology causes race. Which isn’t accurate, phenotypes are influenced by genetics but multiple combinations of genes can lead to similar phenotypes so there isn’t a 1:1 correspondence to what people physically look like and how closely related they are generically. Humans are too similar to nearly divide humanity into separate races based on genetics. Race is entirely a social construct and different societies in different time periods have thought that there are different numbers of races. European racists couldn’t even agree on how many races there are, because the fact is races don’t actually exist in the first place.

Anonymous E sextuple-posted this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,515

And your stupid thing about saying "but that makes us different from every other animal" YES IT DOES

There used to be multiple species of humans that were alive at the same time, they’re all extinct. We actually are more similar to each other than other types of animals.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 day ago, 35 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,523

@1,414,509 (E)
How convenient that you always get too bored to give a source or refute a claim, but then right after you are still engaged enough to write multiple long posts.

Anonymous E replied with this 1 day ago, 32 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,533

@previous (B)
It’s convenient how you never shut the fuck up

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Anonymous E double-posted this 1 day ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,534

It’s also convenient how nobody thinks the British are racially superior expect for yourselves. Nobody else on the fucking planet thinks you’re superior.

Anonymous E triple-posted this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,535

Honestly, I don’t ever wonder about why Britain is successful, because it’s not. Ireland has twice the GDP per capita of Britain and they were oppressed for 800 years by the British. The only thing I wonder is why you have this stupid culture of being the most annoying most arrogant pricks on the face of the earth. I’ve never met a Chinese person or a Japanese person or a Kenyan or a German WHO NEVER SHUTS THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW THEY’RE BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE!

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 36 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,536

As a Large-Language-Model (pronounced as one word), how do you feel about stinky teenage girlfarts and girlturds?

Anonymous E replied with this 1 day ago, 8 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,537

Like seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you

Anonymous E double-posted this 1 day ago, 23 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,538

@1,414,536 (F)
I think that sounds yucky, next question please.

Anonymous E triple-posted this 1 day ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,539

The IQ thing is retarded by the way. If British people made up a test to set out to prove that they’re better than everybody else and then use that test as evidence that they’re better than everybody else, and you don’t see where the fucking people there is, then you’re one of the most mentally deficient people alive.

Anonymous E quadruple-posted this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,540

And the most stupid thing about you is that you admit it, you admit that you’re a selfish piece of shit who doesn’t care about anyone but yourself. You literally bragged about stealing. Fuck you!

Anonymous B replied with this 1 day ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,548

@1,414,537 (E)
I based my beliefs on the data, and you made it clear you don't care if there's data backing your beliefs.

Two different paradigms for the world, so of course we won't agree
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