Topic: "Irrational"
Thunder Balls !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 6 days ago #132,378
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 days ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #1,413,409
Why would you post a screenshot of the headline instead of linking to the article? There are three links you can choose from!
One original link from 2022
https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage
And two links linking back to the original from 2017
https://www.chinafile.com/links/china-has-irrational-fear-of-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage
https://mixedracestudies.org/wp/?p=53139
One original link from 2022
https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage
And two links linking back to the original from 2017
https://www.chinafile.com/links/china-has-irrational-fear-of-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage
https://mixedracestudies.org/wp/?p=53139
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Thunder Balls !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 6 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,410
@previous (B)
I got it off Facebook but thanks for doing the hard work for me.
I got it off Facebook but thanks for doing the hard work for me.
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Anonymous B replied with this 6 days ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,411
@previous (Thunder Balls !saAqdaazn2)
If the original article was written in 2017, I think it was written by a human, but this is interesting:
https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/quartz-has-been-quietly-publishing-ai-generated-news-articles/
https://futurism.com/quartz-ai-generated-article-boeing-astronauts
https://gizmodo.com/quartzs-new-ai-slop-is-regurgitated-ai-slop-2000555973
If the original article was written in 2017, I think it was written by a human, but this is interesting:
https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/quartz-has-been-quietly-publishing-ai-generated-news-articles/
https://futurism.com/quartz-ai-generated-article-boeing-astronauts
https://gizmodo.com/quartzs-new-ai-slop-is-regurgitated-ai-slop-2000555973
Anonymous B double-posted this 6 days ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,412
I don’t really see any issue with the original article, but I do find it weird that when I tried searching for it, the first thing I found was white people talking about the article on white supremacist websites dedicated to being racist against blacks.
https://www.chimpout.com/community/index.php?threads/i-don%E2%80%99t-think-it%E2%80%99s-irrational-at-all%E2%80%A6.47014/
https://www.chimpout.com/community/index.php?threads/i-don%E2%80%99t-think-it%E2%80%99s-irrational-at-all%E2%80%A6.47014/
Anonymous B triple-posted this 6 days ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,413
I guess the only part that’s weird about Quartz is how they have at least 5 articles I’ve found about Chinese people being racist against Africans that all either say "Updated July 20, 2022." But they leave out the original date the article was published.
https://qz.com/africa/1946255/africans-in-china-challenge-stereotypes-of-african-migration
https://qz.com/africa/1844277/racism-to-africans-in-china-and-surveillance-to-slow-migration
https://qz.com/africa/1226125/chinas-racist-blackface-and-savior-complex-for-africa-in-chinese-media
https://qz.com/africa/757850/the-racist-chinese-washing-powder-ad-and-the-truth-about-afrophobia-in-china
https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage
It would be interesting to see what year those articles were originally published.
https://qz.com/africa/1946255/africans-in-china-challenge-stereotypes-of-african-migration
https://qz.com/africa/1844277/racism-to-africans-in-china-and-surveillance-to-slow-migration
https://qz.com/africa/1226125/chinas-racist-blackface-and-savior-complex-for-africa-in-chinese-media
https://qz.com/africa/757850/the-racist-chinese-washing-powder-ad-and-the-truth-about-afrophobia-in-china
https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage
It would be interesting to see what year those articles were originally published.
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Anonymous B quadruple-posted this 6 days ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,414
Tbh I think all their articles before July 20, 2022 might have been updated to say "Updated on July 20, 2022" because all of this person’s articles say that:
https://qz.com/author/kwasigyamfiasiedu
If that’s a software problem, you’d think they’d have fixed that by now.
https://qz.com/author/kwasigyamfiasiedu
If that’s a software problem, you’d think they’d have fixed that by now.
Anonymous B quintuple-posted this 6 days ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,417
Ngl, it feels like anti Chinese people were milking anti black racism in China during the 2010s to make anti Chinese content, then in the 2020s, racist white people who don’t like black people or Chinese people took advantage of it to be racist against black people. I mean, don’t get me wrong, all racism is bad, but I get the feeling that the interest in this online isn’t out of genuine concern for anybody.
Anonymous B sextuple-posted this 6 days ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,419
It’s also interesting that Quartz portrayed African backlash against Chinese workers in Africa in response to Chinese people in China being racist against Africans positively. So if Chinese people are against Africans, that means China is bad, but if Africans are against Chinese people, then that’s good, except then white supremacists take it and say "oh look the Chinese are waking up to the Africans being bad." So people are simultaneously hoping that the Africans wake up to how bad the Chinese are and hoping that the Chinese wake up to how bad the Africans are. Which is an interesting dynamic.
https://qz.com/africa/1860045/china-faces-african-backlash-of-guangzou-racism-incidents
https://qz.com/africa/1860045/china-faces-african-backlash-of-guangzou-racism-incidents
Anonymous B septuple-posted this 6 days ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,420
I guess it’s a weird thing where, I mean, it wasn’t Chinese people it was Indians, but with what happened under Idi Amin in Uganda for example, there has been racism against Asians in Africa. Except westerners perceive Africans as weak and oppressed, so nobody actually cares to examine how Africans feel about Asians. But they perceive Asians as less oppressed than Africans, so Asian racism against Africans gets a lot of attention. But from a western perspective, there’s a dual incentive to undermine both Asia and Africa. But racism is also real and bad, and it doesn’t matter who is racist against who it’s always morally wrong. But there’s also the problem of, you can’t just let white people use racism to push their own agenda in order to advantage themselves. So idk…
Anonymous B octuple-posted this 6 days ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,422
I guess the problem is everybody needs there to be a good guy and a bad guy.
To someone who’s against China, the Chinese are racist against Africans, therefore China is bad.
To someone who’s against Africa, the Chinese are racist against Africans, therefore Africa is bad.
But I guess saying that an entire race of people is bad is what racism is in the first place. So all Chinese people aren’t bad just because a lot of Chinese people are racist against Africans and all white people aren’t bad just because a lot of white people are racist against either Africans or Chinese people or both.
So I guess the takeaway is kinda meh.
To someone who’s against China, the Chinese are racist against Africans, therefore China is bad.
To someone who’s against Africa, the Chinese are racist against Africans, therefore Africa is bad.
But I guess saying that an entire race of people is bad is what racism is in the first place. So all Chinese people aren’t bad just because a lot of Chinese people are racist against Africans and all white people aren’t bad just because a lot of white people are racist against either Africans or Chinese people or both.
So I guess the takeaway is kinda meh.
Anonymous B nonuple-posted this 6 days ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,423
I guess the problem is you can’t create two narratives that cancel each other out and expect people to follow both simultaneously. Because if the article was originally about how the Chinese hate Africans, but then white people use that to justify their hated of Africans, what’s the logical response from a black person who believes both at the same time? Hate Europeans and Asians at the same time? We can’t just hate everybody, that’s silly.
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Anonymous B decuple-posted this 6 days ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,426
I guess it also leaves the question of if black people waking up to the Chinese being racist against them is seen about a good thing, that does leave the massive question of if what Europe did was way worse, what both Africans waking up to that?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 days ago, 55 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,436
The history of the 1980s democracy movement, sadly, began with Chinese student protests against black students who were dating Chinese women. A racist backlash oddly morphed into an actual democracy push.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 days ago, 32 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,438
@previous (C)
The stuff on the internet about the CCP harvesting people’s organs originally came from Falun Gong, which is a religious cult that believes mixed race people can’t go to heaven.
It’s an unfortunate truth that while the west is wealthy and democratic, the west is democratic because it’s wealthy, and the west is wealthy because it exploited the rest of the world (including China) through racism. Obviously it’s still Asian’s fault for being racist, but a lot of the racist stereotypes against black people in Asia originate from the Untied States.
The stuff on the internet about the CCP harvesting people’s organs originally came from Falun Gong, which is a religious cult that believes mixed race people can’t go to heaven.
It’s an unfortunate truth that while the west is wealthy and democratic, the west is democratic because it’s wealthy, and the west is wealthy because it exploited the rest of the world (including China) through racism. Obviously it’s still Asian’s fault for being racist, but a lot of the racist stereotypes against black people in Asia originate from the Untied States.
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Anonymous D double-posted this 6 days ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,439
Like Africa for example, every single country in Africa is capitalist, there isn’t a single communist African country, but white racists casually call African countries socialist and corrupt as an attempt to explain African poverty without including European exploitation of the continent. Western-style governments aren’t what make western countries successful, if that was the case, Africa should be incredibly successful since all African countries are based on a European model of either capitalist democracy or capitalist authoritarianism.
Anonymous D triple-posted this 6 days ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,442
Now that doesn’t mean the Chinese government is better, they’re authoritarian. But white supremacists ask why China doesn’t have the same GDP per capita as the west or why Africa is poorer than China, and it’s like, I don’t know, if Nigeria had an empire the size of the British empire and could extract almost the whole world’s resources and bring it back to a tiny plot of land for hundreds of years and enslave people to work for free, they’d probably be rich too.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 days ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,443
@previous (D)
> Now that doesn’t mean the Chinese government is better, they’re authoritarian. But white supremacists ask why China doesn’t have the same GDP per capita as the west or why Africa is poorer than China, and it’s like, I don’t know, if Nigeria had an empire the size of the British empire and could extract almost the whole world’s resources and bring it back to a tiny plot of land for hundreds of years and enslave people to work for free, they’d probably be rich too.
China was a disaster and graveyard under Mao. After his death and toppling of the Gang of Four, Deng initiated a path toward a market economy.
Africa’s general problem is the elites plugged themselves into resource export economies so you have basic agriculture and petro states. Infrastructure is tied to export. African countries would need to do more refinement, like petroleum products and finished coffee, where the higher margins are.
Plus there’s a false expectation that African countries can convert in 50 years to Western norms when those Western norms took 700 years to develop if we look to the Magna Carta and to the revolutions of 1790-1830, 1848, the collapse of monarchies in WWI…
> Now that doesn’t mean the Chinese government is better, they’re authoritarian. But white supremacists ask why China doesn’t have the same GDP per capita as the west or why Africa is poorer than China, and it’s like, I don’t know, if Nigeria had an empire the size of the British empire and could extract almost the whole world’s resources and bring it back to a tiny plot of land for hundreds of years and enslave people to work for free, they’d probably be rich too.
China was a disaster and graveyard under Mao. After his death and toppling of the Gang of Four, Deng initiated a path toward a market economy.
Africa’s general problem is the elites plugged themselves into resource export economies so you have basic agriculture and petro states. Infrastructure is tied to export. African countries would need to do more refinement, like petroleum products and finished coffee, where the higher margins are.
Plus there’s a false expectation that African countries can convert in 50 years to Western norms when those Western norms took 700 years to develop if we look to the Magna Carta and to the revolutions of 1790-1830, 1848, the collapse of monarchies in WWI…
Anonymous D replied with this 6 days ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,444
@previous (C)
I think it’s more likely that African politics will evolve separately from Europe. Africa is still poorer than Europe, but in the long term, it turns into a birth rate problem. Europe will probably suffer economically in the future due to an aging population while Africa continues to grow, which will fuel anti black sentiment in the west.
I think it’s more likely that African politics will evolve separately from Europe. Africa is still poorer than Europe, but in the long term, it turns into a birth rate problem. Europe will probably suffer economically in the future due to an aging population while Africa continues to grow, which will fuel anti black sentiment in the west.
Anonymous D double-posted this 6 days ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,446
Take India for example and compare their rate of economic growth and the size of their economy to developed countries like Japan, Germany, and the UK. Obviously Indian living standards are still poor, but over a long enough period of time, the difference in population sizes and workforce sizes is probably going to end up offsetting the west’s head start.
Anonymous D triple-posted this 6 days ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,447
Africa is behind India now, and India is behind China, but India has better demographics than China and Africa has better demographics than India.
Anonymous D quadruple-posted this 6 days ago, 14 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,452
People in the west look through racist lens, so they see Indians are poor and they joke about it. But India, Japan, Germany, and the UK, all have similarly sized economies, and India’s is growing much faster than any of its near competitors. Once India surpasses Germany, it will be behind only China and the United States, which will make it more powerful as a nation than any individual western nation except for the US. The United States is 4x smaller than India, eventually, if Indian growth stays at the levels it’s at right now, we’ll be competing with India instead of China.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 5 days ago, 6 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,492
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> People in the west look through racist lens, so they see Indians are poor and they joke about it. But India, Japan, Germany, and the UK, all have similarly sized economies, and India’s is growing much faster than any of its near competitors. Once India surpasses Germany, it will be behind only China and the United States, which will make it more powerful as a nation than any individual western nation except for the US. The United States is 4x smaller than India, eventually, if Indian growth stays at the levels it’s at right now, we’ll be competing with India instead of China.
The general proportions of rich and poor remain the same except in developed countries where you have a larger middle class. More people, more poor people overall but the proportions are the same. India also was fucked early on by Nehru’s socialist idiocy.
> People in the west look through racist lens, so they see Indians are poor and they joke about it. But India, Japan, Germany, and the UK, all have similarly sized economies, and India’s is growing much faster than any of its near competitors. Once India surpasses Germany, it will be behind only China and the United States, which will make it more powerful as a nation than any individual western nation except for the US. The United States is 4x smaller than India, eventually, if Indian growth stays at the levels it’s at right now, we’ll be competing with India instead of China.
The general proportions of rich and poor remain the same except in developed countries where you have a larger middle class. More people, more poor people overall but the proportions are the same. India also was fucked early on by Nehru’s socialist idiocy.
The blackest guy joined in and replied with this 5 days ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,504
The blackest guy double-posted this 5 days ago, 6 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,413,505
A more efficient economy makes a country more powerful, but not necessarily more equal. Socialism and free market capitalism are just two extremes, in reality most countries are perfect examples of neither.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 3 days later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,238
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,414,239
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The only beings using Facebook are senile grandmothers and Indian bots posting shrimp Jesus brainrot. So it makes sense Eirk is there.
The only beings using Facebook are senile grandmothers and Indian bots posting shrimp Jesus brainrot. So it makes sense Eirk is there.