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Topic: The current crop of American oligarchs are such creeps.
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago#132,118
They’re obsessed with Tolkien, Ayn Rand, and tax-dodge foundations, founding goofy crypto-backed libertarian states, and being worshipped.
I’d rather have the WASP, Scottish, and Dutch pricks of the first Gilded Age. Pittsburgh exists today because of Carnegie. Vanderbilt and Rockefeller built shit. JP Morgan was a fucker but he was anti-tariff and brilliant.
They had a real sense of purpose and legacy beyond lining their pockets, and their paternalism was expressed in their works. They weren’t perverts and autists backing a buffoon or shitposting over telegraph.
> He's a scumbag and knows it and should operate in the shadows but he lives to make everyone's life miserable
True. They probably get to a level of wealth where nobody challenges them and everyone else may as well be a pawn on their gameboard. Problem is, we’ve seen their faces and it’s hard to retreat to the shadows.
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If values of society flipped, the oligarchs become less relevant. If I donate to FOSS projects and go to farmers' markets to meet people the social media tycoons lose. If everyone did that the next generation would have a chance maybe.
> If values of society flipped, the oligarchs become less relevant. If I donate to FOSS projects and go to farmers' markets to meet people the social media tycoons lose. If everyone did that the next generation would have a chance maybe.
This. I once read a great book about revolutions. Nearly all fail. New kleptocrats and, often, worse tyrants replace the old.
People who opt out of stadium politics, educate themselves, treat every dollar spent as a ballot, and who break down vampire business models would be a wedge against the few.
“It’s impossible.” The precedent would be the real Progressives of the 1900s who sought regulations of food and drugs, workers’ rights, and curtailment of the Robber Barons of the Gilded Age.
Of course, a Teddy Roosevelt Republican would be jeered as a “libtard” in some quarters today, and in others as a toxic product of the manosphere.