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Topic: The current crop of American oligarchs are such creeps.

Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #132,118

They’re obsessed with Tolkien, Ayn Rand, and tax-dodge foundations, founding goofy crypto-backed libertarian states, and being worshipped.

I’d rather have the WASP, Scottish, and Dutch pricks of the first Gilded Age. Pittsburgh exists today because of Carnegie. Vanderbilt and Rockefeller built shit. JP Morgan was a fucker but he was anti-tariff and brilliant.

They had a real sense of purpose and legacy beyond lining their pockets, and their paternalism was expressed in their works. They weren’t perverts and autists backing a buffoon or shitposting over telegraph.

boof joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,411,384

what how is this guy not everyone's friend

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,395

@previous (boof)

> what how is this guy not everyone's friend

I liked him when he kept to himself and had a parade of 32 year old models on his yacht.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,402

@1,411,384 (boof)
He's a scumbag and knows it and should operate in the shadows but he lives to make everyone's life miserable

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,441

@previous (D)

> He's a scumbag and knows it and should operate in the shadows but he lives to make everyone's life miserable

True. They probably get to a level of wealth where nobody challenges them and everyone else may as well be a pawn on their gameboard. Problem is, we’ve seen their faces and it’s hard to retreat to the shadows.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 weeks ago, 30 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,460

@previous (E)
Why would you want to remove them? New ones would pop in.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,489

@previous (D)
If values of society flipped, the oligarchs become less relevant. If I donate to FOSS projects and go to farmers' markets to meet people the social media tycoons lose. If everyone did that the next generation would have a chance maybe.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 weeks ago, 36 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,500

@previous (F)
Idealism dies this generation

Some black guy joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 12 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,508

@previous (D)
Doomer

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 22 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,745

David Cross: Why America Sucks at Everything

The Gravel Institute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNghg1Y-WIc

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,749

@1,411,489 (F)

> If values of society flipped, the oligarchs become less relevant. If I donate to FOSS projects and go to farmers' markets to meet people the social media tycoons lose. If everyone did that the next generation would have a chance maybe.

This. I once read a great book about revolutions. Nearly all fail. New kleptocrats and, often, worse tyrants replace the old.

People who opt out of stadium politics, educate themselves, treat every dollar spent as a ballot, and who break down vampire business models would be a wedge against the few.

“It’s impossible.” The precedent would be the real Progressives of the 1900s who sought regulations of food and drugs, workers’ rights, and curtailment of the Robber Barons of the Gilded Age.

Of course, a Teddy Roosevelt Republican would be jeered as a “libtard” in some quarters today, and in others as a toxic product of the manosphere.

boof replied with this 3 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,750

Michael Dell turned out to be another filthy cocksucker

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,411,752

@1,411,749 (I)
The Anatomy of Revolution by Crane Brinton?
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