Topic: Charlie Kirk and the liberal arts
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 month ago #131,683
The thing I think is kind of stupid about Charlie Kirk supporters and college is Charlie Kirk supporters like talking shit about colleges and universities for things like "free speech" and tend to have the opinion that the only degrees worth studying for would be STEM fields like physics or computer science. But Charlie Kirk’s entire ideology, free market capitalism, free expression, Christianity, that’s all liberal arts shit. If you want to learn about religion or about the constitution or whatever, you don’t study engineering, you study one of the liberal arts degrees conservatives look down on.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,408,012
Even the whole ideological value on debate, go ask a computer science major or a computer engineering major what they think about debate. That’s not something that’s really on their radar. Debate as a means of finding truth is a liberal arts thing not an engineering thing. But those people look down on liberal arts without realizing that’s what they are.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,013
Even the idea of "let’s defund science because free speech" that’s… that’s not something someone who has an ideological worldview based on science would even think of, valuing subjective ideas from the liberal arts over scientific research.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,015
Anyway, that’s my rant for the day.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,016
Even the whole idea of free speech and democracy or "western values" as being responsible for technological progress is just bullshit made up by liberal arts people. Not all technology was created by the west. The Chinese invented gunpowder, the soviets invented space travel, and commercially lithium ion batteries were created by the Japanese. But people will just blanket make claims about the origins of "the modern world" that are inaccurate. We invented a lot but not everything or even close to it.
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i cant read ebonics, can one of your br'tish tell me what it said?Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,031
boof joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 7 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,073
STEM is a bit of bullshit when you consider that most areas of specialty do not offer related employment with a single degree. So if you are not particularly academically inclined, getting a degree in any particular science doesn't make for work in that area. I mean, maybe a biology degree gives you a leg up to work as a government nature officer of some kind, but it isn't like the degree had any training for that at all. Any secondary school that cares about the non-wealthy student will give details about what specific education or training really can lead to, rather than just imply you can follow any interest with success in that thing you studied
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boof replied with this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,077
@previous (E)
it's an issue of being informed ahead of time whether an ordinary student would be willing or academically oriented enough to stick it out to doctorate level for the chance at working in the field, when so many kinds of employment can get you started with some training much sooner. Most kids fucking hate school and can't wait to be done with it.
it's an issue of being informed ahead of time whether an ordinary student would be willing or academically oriented enough to stick it out to doctorate level for the chance at working in the field, when so many kinds of employment can get you started with some training much sooner. Most kids fucking hate school and can't wait to be done with it.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,078
@previous (boof)
It’s true that most kids hate school, although about half of people in the US don’t go to college, of them about half go to community college, so by the point you’re actually enrolled in a 4-year school, you’re already narrowed down to the 25% of the population interested enough to do that. And if you decide to study a STEM field, especially if it’s technology related, a lot of universities for example have limited enrollment into certain majors like computer science, including public universities. It’s possible to apply to a school to get into an engineering-related field then get accepted, but not to that major.
What I’m saying basically, is that the effort required to get yourself into that in the first place is probably a sign that someone is more academically inclined and would probably be willing to go to graduate school anyway.
It’s true that most kids hate school, although about half of people in the US don’t go to college, of them about half go to community college, so by the point you’re actually enrolled in a 4-year school, you’re already narrowed down to the 25% of the population interested enough to do that. And if you decide to study a STEM field, especially if it’s technology related, a lot of universities for example have limited enrollment into certain majors like computer science, including public universities. It’s possible to apply to a school to get into an engineering-related field then get accepted, but not to that major.
What I’m saying basically, is that the effort required to get yourself into that in the first place is probably a sign that someone is more academically inclined and would probably be willing to go to graduate school anyway.
Anonymous E double-posted this 1 month ago, 28 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,079
Like people who hate school don’t usually say, "I love math I wanna study aerospace engineering!"
Anonymous E triple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,080
Of course, the number of students who enroll in college directly after high school is much higher, but not everybody actually graduates.
Anonymous E quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,082
Not that it never happens, but if there was some dude skipping class in high school who hated studying who somehow scored so high on the SAT that they got accepted to an aerospace engineering major at an engineering college then somehow didn’t realize that they didn’t like math until after they graduated… I’m not saying that never happens. I’m just saying, if someone can pull that off they might actually be a genius or something.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 4 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,087
The problem is that the liberal arts students don't believe in any of those values anymore.
You can't credit those students with being open minded critical thinkers when they ban any view that goes against their doctrine and try to intimidate anyone who doesn't follow that rule.
You can't credit those students with being open minded critical thinkers when they ban any view that goes against their doctrine and try to intimidate anyone who doesn't follow that rule.
DiversityHireKamikazePilot joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,088
Charlie Kirk was a fucking Kike, he deserved the bullet. You can say you're a liberal or a conservative, but if you're a Jew then you're the enemy of God no matter what.
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 5 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,111
@1,408,078 (E)
except most that attempt the first degree do not necessarily achieve that, and of those that do, most are not inclined to get more, whether for fatigue or for lack of money. there is not much love of continuing for those that feel the effort a grind and a slog.
except most that attempt the first degree do not necessarily achieve that, and of those that do, most are not inclined to get more, whether for fatigue or for lack of money. there is not much love of continuing for those that feel the effort a grind and a slog.
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@previous (DiversityHireKamikazePilot)
How is this kamikaze mission supposed to work if we’re fighting over the controls? How are we supposed to crash the plane if we can’t agree on which direction we’re gonna fly in?
How is this kamikaze mission supposed to work if we’re fighting over the controls? How are we supposed to crash the plane if we can’t agree on which direction we’re gonna fly in?
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boof replied with this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,408,147
STEM aside, I'd rather see 100 Greek drama masters than another fucking MBA