Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later[^][v]#1,404,809
If only it was all irrelevant trivia.
Teachers unions push political ideology, and students get caught up in it and feel empowered to push that ideology onto other because the authority figures most active in their lives back them up.
Ebolalalala double-posted this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,404,815
@1,404,813 (A)
I’m just joking that what they teach in schools really isn’t that radical. They still give a very sanitized version of history. Black people (used to be now I think there are actually more Hispanics) the largest ethnic minority in the United States, so they can’t get away with not teaching about slavery and the civil rights movements. They don’t teach anything about women’s rights, or about the native Americans, or the Japanese or anything like that.
Ebolalalala triple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,404,816
Tbh it could be part of why our politics are so radicalized. Because we sanitize everything except black American history, white people who had Irish or Italian ancestors don’t learn that people used to be racist against them so they end up feeling reactionary white guilt, and then black Americans are only taught about slavery, not about the concentration camps they put Japanese Americans in or the trail of tears or women’s suffrage, so then black Americans end up thinking they’re more oppressed than anyone else ever and white people end up thinking they never were oppressed and never oppressed anybody else except black people. So it creates this white vs black dynamic.
Ebolalalala quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,404,817
Then it also has this effect of, if white people believe that they were never oppressed and white people believe that they only oppressed black people, and black people believe that they’re the only ones who were ever oppressed, if everyone in a society believes something about the social order, it ends up becoming true.
Ebolalalala sextuple-posted this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,404,820
I mean, for instance, the idea that when the country was founded, black people couldn’t own land, and only land owners would vote, if people were taught that the English originally came up with that idea when did that in Ireland to create a fake democracy there, that would probably make people understand things in a different way.
Ebolalalala triple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,404,848
I think chatbots are useful, but they’re basically just autocomplete algorithms. They don’t actually possess intelligence, they just spit out the most common answer that you would find on the internet, because that’s what they’re trained on in the first place.
Ebolalalala quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,404,849
…a lot of the information on the internet is people writing posts in forums who don’t really quite know what they’re talking about. Which is why Reddit ranks so high in the search results. That’s where they got the data on conversations from.
> What law makes it illegal to train on someone else's data? > > Again, people do this. Someone will repeat what they read in a copyrighted book or article without getting permission to recreate the work.
Mass ingestion of copyrighted content, and reuse of that content, is theft and plagiarism without a fee. Repeating something you’ve read isn’t the same.
Meta tried to argue that millions of books have “no economic value” and was rebuffed.
> > Again, people do this. Someone will repeat what they read in a copyrighted book or article without getting permission to recreate the work. > > Mass ingestion of copyrighted content, and reuse of that content, is theft and plagiarism without a fee.
Ingesting copyrighted content isn't illegal, even if you didn't pay. Only distribution of that content, with some exceptions, would be illegal.
> Repeating something you’ve read isn’t the same.
The law doesn't make the distinction between a person or machine doing it, it just defines infringement and fair use.
> Meta tried to argue that millions of books have “no economic value” and was rebuffed.
Their argument was that they never seeded the torrent. If that's true, it isn't illegal because the courts have already established that only distribution is criminal.
Ebolalalala joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 41 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,404,897
@previous (B)
I don’t care what the law says, we can change the law, I think it’s immoral, and if the law doesn’t make a distinction we should rewrite it. Intellectual property should be protected.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,404,912
@1,404,897 (Ebolalalala)
So we can't have AI models that can generate anything we can ask it for because some self-published authors think it will make them money?
> If only it was all irrelevant trivia. > > Teachers unions push political ideology, and students get caught up in it and feel empowered to push that ideology onto other because the authority figures most active in their lives back them up.
you need to punch whoever you rely upon for information about the world, because they're making you look really fuckin retarded
If I’m being honest, blaming unions for propagandizing children is just evidence that you’ve bought into the propaganda that rich people want you to believe in, which is that organized labor is bad or equivalent to socialism. And also that socialism is equivalent to communism, and that communism is equivalent to Marxist Leninism. But that’s a whole can of worms… I don’t even really know where to start.
Ebolalalala double-posted this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,405,029
You know in China, unions are illegal because in America the reason you can unionize is because you have the right to freedom of association, which is a thing authoritarian countries don’t have? Crazy…
Anonymous B replied with this 1 month ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,405,038
@1,405,028 (Ebolalalala)
I'm in favor of organized labor most of the time, when it's negotiating with a private corporation.
Public unions are getting their gains as the expense of the taxpayer. Teachers unions, like police unions, are people in positions of power backed by the state who have increased their power further with unions.
I would support a teachers union at a private school.