Topic: White people aren’t smart
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 months ago #130,930
It’s crazy how white dudes are so racist that they don’t realize the reason why they can’t get into college is because of Chinese international students, so they blame the black students that aren’t even there in the first place. Then they’re like "why does China steal our technology." I don’t know, maybe because you taught thousands of Chinese students engineering.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,402,403
The whole justification is stupid.
"Black people aren’t oppressed, fewer black people go to college because they’re just biologically less intelligent."
Oh so, then you don’t have to compete for college acceptances then because black people are just dumb right?
"No, I didn’t get into Harvard because of affirmative action! Black people have an unfair advantage."
Oh well there must be a lot of black people in American universities then if they’re the reason why you can’t get it.
"No, there are almost no blacks in American universities, American universities are filled with Chinese international students because they’re Chinese have a culture that actually values studying!"
Well, then if they’re filled with Chinese international students, maybe they’re the real reason why you didn’t get in.
"No! Asians have higher IQs than white people. They deserve to be in university."
You must really like the Chinese then!
"No, China is a threat to America and all they do is steal our technology."
Are they really stealing your technology if you would rather teach Chinese students engineering than teach it to black or white American citizens?
"No China is stealing our technology!"
But you think the Chinese have higher IQs than white people and blacks are inferior to white people because they’re have low IQs.
"No, China has an inferior culture!"
Like this is all bullshit.
"Black people aren’t oppressed, fewer black people go to college because they’re just biologically less intelligent."
Oh so, then you don’t have to compete for college acceptances then because black people are just dumb right?
"No, I didn’t get into Harvard because of affirmative action! Black people have an unfair advantage."
Oh well there must be a lot of black people in American universities then if they’re the reason why you can’t get it.
"No, there are almost no blacks in American universities, American universities are filled with Chinese international students because they’re Chinese have a culture that actually values studying!"
Well, then if they’re filled with Chinese international students, maybe they’re the real reason why you didn’t get in.
"No! Asians have higher IQs than white people. They deserve to be in university."
You must really like the Chinese then!
"No, China is a threat to America and all they do is steal our technology."
Are they really stealing your technology if you would rather teach Chinese students engineering than teach it to black or white American citizens?
"No China is stealing our technology!"
But you think the Chinese have higher IQs than white people and blacks are inferior to white people because they’re have low IQs.
"No, China has an inferior culture!"
Like this is all bullshit.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,404
@previous (A)Studies on intelligence have consistently found that
people of East Asian descent, on average, obtain the highest scores on standardized intelligence tests compared to other racial and ethnic groups, including white people. The difference in average scores is typically a few to several points
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,405
@previous (B)
None of those studies are real though. The reason why white supremacists say Asians are the most intelligent race is because Asians are seen as foreigners in the United States so it’s a gotcha they can use to deny being white supremacists. They did it so they can be like, "See, I’m not a racist, I said Asians and Jews have the highest IQs, if I’m a racist why would I say Jews have high IQs?"
None of those studies are real though. The reason why white supremacists say Asians are the most intelligent race is because Asians are seen as foreigners in the United States so it’s a gotcha they can use to deny being white supremacists. They did it so they can be like, "See, I’m not a racist, I said Asians and Jews have the highest IQs, if I’m a racist why would I say Jews have high IQs?"
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,408
The thing that’s crazy, is Chinese people, they don’t usually say it, but they actually know that it’s not true. The Chinese government knows that Europe and Asia have declining birth rates and that Africa is going to have a massive young workforce in the future. There’s a reason why the Russians and the Chinese want to keep the Europeans and the Americans out of Africa.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,409
> they’re like "why does China steal our technology." I don’t know, maybe because you taught thousands of Chinese students engineering.
How do you steal an idea?
How do you steal an idea?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,411
@previous (C)
I mean, the Chinese do copy technology, I’m not denying that. I’m just saying, if white Americans see China as an American adversary, saying that Chinese people deserve to get an education in the United States more than American citizens because of some fringe Neo Nazi theory that East Asians are more intelligent than whites, that’s basically the most stupid strategy possible.
I mean, the Chinese do copy technology, I’m not denying that. I’m just saying, if white Americans see China as an American adversary, saying that Chinese people deserve to get an education in the United States more than American citizens because of some fringe Neo Nazi theory that East Asians are more intelligent than whites, that’s basically the most stupid strategy possible.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,413
It’s especially ironic if you consider the fact that these white people think that black people are stupid. But there is no black country in Africa that’s so stupid that black Africans are arguing that white people in Europe deserve to go to African universities more than Africans from Africa because they think Europeans are smarter. Nobody in Africa is stupid enough to say that, so if no black people are that stupid enough to do that, then why are Americans that stupid when it comes to China? The fact they have the opinion is evidence the opinion is bullshit.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,414
@1,402,411 (A)
These institutions charge 6 figures to tell their customers to read and write, if the Chinese want to send their hard earned money to America instead of just picking up a text under their own volition, that's good for America.
These institutions charge 6 figures to tell their customers to read and write, if the Chinese want to send their hard earned money to America instead of just picking up a text under their own volition, that's good for America.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,415
@previous (C)
People who go to college earn an average of a million dollars more over their lifetime than people who don’t go to college.
People who go to college earn an average of a million dollars more over their lifetime than people who don’t go to college.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,416
@previous (A)
People who buy luxury cars have an even higher premium over regular people, but that doesn't mean spending the money is going to make you rich. Rich people buy luxury products. They had money before they went to college.
Anyone with some time can study, the expense those institutions charge is to provide the resort for students. It doesn't have occult knowledge, you can watch entire classes for free from elite universities.
People who buy luxury cars have an even higher premium over regular people, but that doesn't mean spending the money is going to make you rich. Rich people buy luxury products. They had money before they went to college.
Anyone with some time can study, the expense those institutions charge is to provide the resort for students. It doesn't have occult knowledge, you can watch entire classes for free from elite universities.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,417
@previous (C)
Yeah, and I don’t go to class everyday, because I can watch the lectures too. Obviously it is possible to educate everyone for free, Germany does it. The point isn’t that it’s necessary, a lot of what society is, is basically elitism for the sake of elitism. The whole debate about affirmative action isn’t really about fairness or whether some races are really smarter than other races, nobody really cares about that except for fools. It’s about who has what status in society. And on average, if you go to college, there are edge cases, but on average you will earn more than if you don’t.
Yeah, and I don’t go to class everyday, because I can watch the lectures too. Obviously it is possible to educate everyone for free, Germany does it. The point isn’t that it’s necessary, a lot of what society is, is basically elitism for the sake of elitism. The whole debate about affirmative action isn’t really about fairness or whether some races are really smarter than other races, nobody really cares about that except for fools. It’s about who has what status in society. And on average, if you go to college, there are edge cases, but on average you will earn more than if you don’t.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,418
I’m not saying your point is invalid, but I’d imagine the number of people who actually watch every 1 1/2 hour long lecture 3 days a week for all 15 weeks of a semester on YouTube is probably pretty small.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,419
@1,402,417 (A)
There's no study that shows that college increases your earnings by a million dollars if you control for economic background. Any study just shows a correlation, which isn't meaningful because obviously the wealthy spend more on luxuries.
Who cares about the status? The service industry is full of college grads complaining about being disrespected by customers.
If you are a regular person, spend that money on a business. That will provide a return. Keeping up with the Joneses is how you get in debt. The student loan balances are over 1 trillion in the US. It's just the same as buying a brand name product to show off the logo, you're trading money for fleeting respect.
There's no study that shows that college increases your earnings by a million dollars if you control for economic background. Any study just shows a correlation, which isn't meaningful because obviously the wealthy spend more on luxuries.
Who cares about the status? The service industry is full of college grads complaining about being disrespected by customers.
If you are a regular person, spend that money on a business. That will provide a return. Keeping up with the Joneses is how you get in debt. The student loan balances are over 1 trillion in the US. It's just the same as buying a brand name product to show off the logo, you're trading money for fleeting respect.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,421
@previous (C)
Well, personally, the reason why I decided to go to college is because I’m interested in technology.
Well, personally, the reason why I decided to go to college is because I’m interested in technology.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 57 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,422
@1,402,418 (A)
Anyone who can show up to scheduled classes on a campus can find the time to watch finish a course on edX. It takes the same amount of time, minus the physical commute.
Anyone who can show up to scheduled classes on a campus can find the time to watch finish a course on edX. It takes the same amount of time, minus the physical commute.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 53 seconds later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,423
@previous (C)
College isn’t just lecture though, there are also assignments and exams to prove that you actually learned the material.
College isn’t just lecture though, there are also assignments and exams to prove that you actually learned the material.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 29 seconds later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,424
@1,402,421 (A)
You can read a textbook on technology, buy components to practice with, and anything else a university offers without going into lifelong debt.
You can read a textbook on technology, buy components to practice with, and anything else a university offers without going into lifelong debt.
Anonymous C double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,425
@1,402,423 (A)
edX does too, that's not unique to physical colleges. Those exams are designed by Harvard and MIT just the same for edX as in the classroom. They aren't forced to make it easier because it's in a web format.
edX does too, that's not unique to physical colleges. Those exams are designed by Harvard and MIT just the same for edX as in the classroom. They aren't forced to make it easier because it's in a web format.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 6 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,426
@1,402,424 (C)
Technology companies are difficult to get into even if you have a degree. For example, Google has a less than 1% acceptance rate.
Technology companies are difficult to get into even if you have a degree. For example, Google has a less than 1% acceptance rate.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,428
Of course, Google isn’t the only company in the world, and they have this populist thing of "oh you don’t need college to get a job" but if you actually think of a tech company like Oracle, Amazon, Netflix, etc. and you go to their careers page and you actually search for jobs, they usually say they want you to have a degree, but they also sometimes mention particular courses than only certain universities offer.
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Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 44 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,429
@1,402,426 (A)
Google designs courses on edX and accepts them as valid certification for jobs at Google.
Google designs courses on edX and accepts them as valid certification for jobs at Google.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,430
@previous (C)
I’m not saying that you’re wrong, I’m just saying that’s a riskier route. My whole thing is mostly I’m irritated at the idea of white people saying that blacks shouldn’t work in technology or that blacks shouldn’t go to university as if that’s a ridiculous idea.
I’m not saying that you’re wrong, I’m just saying that’s a riskier route. My whole thing is mostly I’m irritated at the idea of white people saying that blacks shouldn’t work in technology or that blacks shouldn’t go to university as if that’s a ridiculous idea.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 1 second later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,431
@1,402,428 (A)
Google is one of the "schools" on the site, and tailors the programs to match the skills they think are important. Many CS programs have not changed much in decades, because they teach theory and aren't as concerned about whether Google has the human capital it needs.
https://www.edx.org/school/google
Google is one of the "schools" on the site, and tailors the programs to match the skills they think are important. Many CS programs have not changed much in decades, because they teach theory and aren't as concerned about whether Google has the human capital it needs.
https://www.edx.org/school/google
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,433
@previous (C)
> Many CS programs have not changed much in decades
Schools with higher ranked CS programs usually offer courses that other schools don’t, but those schools are more difficult to get into.
> Many CS programs have not changed much in decades
Schools with higher ranked CS programs usually offer courses that other schools don’t, but those schools are more difficult to get into.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,434
@1,402,430 (A)
There's a lot of risk in taking out a big loan if no one can say exactly what college offers outside a vague sense of status.
Many tech companies have endorsed MOOCs as an alternative to traditional college. For non-tech degrees, it's less clear why you'd put yourself in indentured servitude to read important authors, write about them, and talk to others. There are coffee shops and bars that offer that at a much better price.
There's a lot of risk in taking out a big loan if no one can say exactly what college offers outside a vague sense of status.
Many tech companies have endorsed MOOCs as an alternative to traditional college. For non-tech degrees, it's less clear why you'd put yourself in indentured servitude to read important authors, write about them, and talk to others. There are coffee shops and bars that offer that at a much better price.
Anonymous C double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,435
@1,402,433 (A)
MIT puts it's courses on edX too.
A company wants someone who has the skills, but even status-obsessed people usually put it aside when money is on the line.
MIT puts it's courses on edX too.
A company wants someone who has the skills, but even status-obsessed people usually put it aside when money is on the line.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,439
@1,402,434 (C)
I do think that universities are important for technological and scientific progress.
I do think that universities are important for technological and scientific progress.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,440
@previous (A)
Most people going to college don't get involved in research.
For the average person, college is an expensive way to get validation.
Most people going to college don't get involved in research.
For the average person, college is an expensive way to get validation.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,441
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,442
I mean, if you think about a smartphone for example, and how much research was required to invent that, computer scientists, electrical and computer engineers, physicists, chemists, etc. I do think that there is value in that.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,443
@1,402,441 (A)
@previous (A)
Yes and that's different then telling everyone in high school they need to go to college for regular jobs.
@previous (A)
Yes and that's different then telling everyone in high school they need to go to college for regular jobs.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,444
@previous (C)
I don’t have a problem with saying that everyone doesn’t need to go to college, but I do have a problem with some people saying that some people shouldn’t go to college or contribute to the development of technology because of what race they are.
I don’t have a problem with saying that everyone doesn’t need to go to college, but I do have a problem with some people saying that some people shouldn’t go to college or contribute to the development of technology because of what race they are.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,445
(I said some people because I’m not talking about you, but it’s what my post was originally about).
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,446
@1,402,444 (A)
The difference in how each party treats this is that the democrats want special quotas to gurantee certain races spots (DEI/Affirmative Action) and Republicans want to ban using race as a factor in admissions.
No one is saying black people can't go, the actual position is that they shouldn't get a leg up because of their race. Get admitted on merit.
The difference in how each party treats this is that the democrats want special quotas to gurantee certain races spots (DEI/Affirmative Action) and Republicans want to ban using race as a factor in admissions.
No one is saying black people can't go, the actual position is that they shouldn't get a leg up because of their race. Get admitted on merit.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,447
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,449
I can tell you why I don’t believe in merit. Rich kids don’t go to the same schools as poor kids, they take different classes, they’re involved in different extracurriculars, and rich kids get accepted to top universities at a much higher rate than middle class kids do.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,450
More people apply to Harvard with perfect 4.0 out of 4.0 GPAs than they actually have seats for. Meritocracy doesn’t actually exist, it’s a scam.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,451
Anonymous C double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,452
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,453
@1,402,451 (C)
> They were smart, and that's why they became rich and involved in activities.
That’s what the rich want you to believe. The rich are rich because their parents were rich. That’s the best predictor for whether or not you’re going to be rich.
> They were smart, and that's why they became rich and involved in activities.
That’s what the rich want you to believe. The rich are rich because their parents were rich. That’s the best predictor for whether or not you’re going to be rich.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,454
@1,402,452 (C)
> Meritocracy doesn't mean everyone can win limited spots.
Okay, I want you to imagine a scenario:
Imagine two people, Jack and Dylan. Imagine Dylan is a black guy who lives on the south side of Chicago, he gets perfect grades, he’s a successful student athlete, he has a 4.0 GPA. His school doesn’t have AP or IB credits and he didn’t do any dual enrollment. Now imagine Jack is a white guy from NYC who has millionaire parents who sent him to private school, where he received AP or IB credits, and took computer science classes and college level math courses while he was a high school student, but he got a 3.9 GPA. Which one do you think is probably going to be admitted to Harvard?
> Meritocracy doesn't mean everyone can win limited spots.
Okay, I want you to imagine a scenario:
Imagine two people, Jack and Dylan. Imagine Dylan is a black guy who lives on the south side of Chicago, he gets perfect grades, he’s a successful student athlete, he has a 4.0 GPA. His school doesn’t have AP or IB credits and he didn’t do any dual enrollment. Now imagine Jack is a white guy from NYC who has millionaire parents who sent him to private school, where he received AP or IB credits, and took computer science classes and college level math courses while he was a high school student, but he got a 3.9 GPA. Which one do you think is probably going to be admitted to Harvard?
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Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,455
All high schools aren’t equal, there are a lot of high schools in poor neighborhoods where literally nobody is going to be admitted into an ivy regardless of how good their grades are, because the school doesn’t offer the right courses, the school isn’t ranked well, and the universities know people from that area on average have less money so they’ll only admit a few token students, but won’t admit a majority of their class of x year from there because they still need to actually collect tuition from someone.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,637
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Sam joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,649
White people are really stupid due to their allowing black scum to live in their country. Smart White people would do whatever is needed to get rid of those filthy things.
DEI guy joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 54 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,652
DEI guy double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,653
@1,402,649 (Sam)
> White people are really stupid due to their allowing black scum to live in their country. Smart White people would do whatever is needed to get rid of those filthy things.
No matter how much land white people have ever conquered or how many ways of killing people whites have ever invented, whites have never figured out how to get rid of black people. It’s almost like they’re not superior or something.
> White people are really stupid due to their allowing black scum to live in their country. Smart White people would do whatever is needed to get rid of those filthy things.
No matter how much land white people have ever conquered or how many ways of killing people whites have ever invented, whites have never figured out how to get rid of black people. It’s almost like they’re not superior or something.
DEI guy triple-posted this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,658
In fact, ironically, capitalism incentivizes people to have fewer children, so the fact that Europeans exploited Africa for so long and made Africa so poor is actually probably the reason why Africa’s population has exploded and went from half the size of Europe in the 1940s to equal to the size of Europe in the 1990s and twice the size of Europe today, projected at 40% of the population of the world by the end of the century, by which Africa in 2100 will still have a younger population than Europe does today. For some "high IQ" people, that’s one hell of a backfire. Africa has only been larger than Europe for about 30 years, but they’re probably going to stay larger than Europe for hundreds of years.
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DEI guy quadruple-posted this 2 months ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,663
…and the average age of an African is 19, so that means within a single human lifetime, we’re going to see the African workforce double in size since half of Africans are children right now.