Topic: LOL AOC owns dumbass Trump bragging about passing a dementia test
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 months ago #130,295
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 51 minutes later[^] [v] #1,398,439
I swear it’s always the most moronic neo nazi loser types who call brown people "low IQ."
…they’ll use Asians to pretend they’re being objective until you say anything positive about Asia then they’re just as racist against the Chinese.
…they’ll use Asians to pretend they’re being objective until you say anything positive about Asia then they’re just as racist against the Chinese.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 34 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,443
@1,398,440 (C)
If that is even true, it's because the IQ test is biased towards Western white people. That's a known fact.
If that is even true, it's because the IQ test is biased towards Western white people. That's a known fact.
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Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 52 seconds later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,445
@1,398,443 (A)
Saying "it's known" isn't the same as actually giving a source.
It's a pattern recognition test, how is it biased towards westerns? Use a specific question to show, don't just make vague claims without evidence.
Saying "it's known" isn't the same as actually giving a source.
It's a pattern recognition test, how is it biased towards westerns? Use a specific question to show, don't just make vague claims without evidence.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,446
If you actually want to know why, the reason is because whites came up with scientific racism, which isn’t actually science as a way to justify colonialism.
IQ scores are based on percentiles. Your IQ score isn’t a percentage of how many problems you got right on the test, your IQ score is an indicator of how well you performed relative to everyone else.
If you have an IQ score of 70 for example, that means you scored lower than 98% of people. Now the major problem with the statistics a lot of racists cite about how blacks have lower IQs, is they’ll present maps of Africa with countries labeled with low IQ numbers as evidence that Africans are less intelligent than white Europeans, but what they expect you to not understand is the statistics they’re showing are mathematically impossible.
Africa has 1.5 billion people, Earth has 8.2 billion people. That means about 18% of people alive on Earth today are African.
An IQ of 70 corresponds to the 2nd percentile, meaning 98% of people scored higher than you, meaning you’re less intelligent than 98% of people.
An IQ of 80 corresponds to the 10th percentile, meaning 90% of people who took the test scored higher than you.
If Africans are roughly 20% of the world population, it is mathematically impossible for them to score lower than 98% of the population or 90% of the population. Meaning anyone who says Africans have an IQ of 70 or 80 on average is lying to you.
IQ scores are based on percentiles. Your IQ score isn’t a percentage of how many problems you got right on the test, your IQ score is an indicator of how well you performed relative to everyone else.
If you have an IQ score of 70 for example, that means you scored lower than 98% of people. Now the major problem with the statistics a lot of racists cite about how blacks have lower IQs, is they’ll present maps of Africa with countries labeled with low IQ numbers as evidence that Africans are less intelligent than white Europeans, but what they expect you to not understand is the statistics they’re showing are mathematically impossible.
Africa has 1.5 billion people, Earth has 8.2 billion people. That means about 18% of people alive on Earth today are African.
An IQ of 70 corresponds to the 2nd percentile, meaning 98% of people scored higher than you, meaning you’re less intelligent than 98% of people.
An IQ of 80 corresponds to the 10th percentile, meaning 90% of people who took the test scored higher than you.
If Africans are roughly 20% of the world population, it is mathematically impossible for them to score lower than 98% of the population or 90% of the population. Meaning anyone who says Africans have an IQ of 70 or 80 on average is lying to you.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 48 seconds later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,447
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,448
@1,398,443 (A)
> If that is even true, it's because the IQ test is biased towards Western white people. That's a known fact.
That is true on some level, but the much larger cause is that the statistics actually are not real. The tests are biased but the statistics where you’ll see people post "IQ by country" maps, those statistics are literally not a mathematically possible distribution of IQ scores.
> If that is even true, it's because the IQ test is biased towards Western white people. That's a known fact.
That is true on some level, but the much larger cause is that the statistics actually are not real. The tests are biased but the statistics where you’ll see people post "IQ by country" maps, those statistics are literally not a mathematically possible distribution of IQ scores.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,449
@1,398,446 (B)
Those would be from norming in one country that has a higher average IQ, and then giving it to different country and their IQ score are lower than you would think because it's not normed against the whole world.
Yes, it would be better to norm it against the whole world, but that doesn't change the fact that those countries still scored lower on average than other countries.
It also doesn't change the fact that blacks in America, when tested against IQ tests normed against Americans as a whole, score lower than whites and asians.
Also, you avoided giving a single example of a biased test anywhere in your post, because you are unable to do so.
Those would be from norming in one country that has a higher average IQ, and then giving it to different country and their IQ score are lower than you would think because it's not normed against the whole world.
Yes, it would be better to norm it against the whole world, but that doesn't change the fact that those countries still scored lower on average than other countries.
It also doesn't change the fact that blacks in America, when tested against IQ tests normed against Americans as a whole, score lower than whites and asians.
Also, you avoided giving a single example of a biased test anywhere in your post, because you are unable to do so.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,450
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,451
@1,398,447 (A)
It's not an example, because IQ tests don't test anyone on "closed-in spaces", that's something you just made up now because you're unable to give a real example.
It's not an example, because IQ tests don't test anyone on "closed-in spaces", that's something you just made up now because you're unable to give a real example.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,452
Like, let me explain to you just how bad the statistics are. Okay?
Africa has 1.5 billion people. If Africans have an IQ of 70, that means 98% of people alive are smarter than Africans. And if 98% of people are smarter than Africans, it follows logically that 100% of people who are smarter than Africans aren’t Africans. So that means that 100% of humanity is the 2% of Africans plus the 98% of people who aren’t Africans who score higher than Africans.
Do you know what the world population would need to be for Africans to be 2% of the population? Earth would have to have 75 billion people.
Africa has 1.5 billion people. If Africans have an IQ of 70, that means 98% of people alive are smarter than Africans. And if 98% of people are smarter than Africans, it follows logically that 100% of people who are smarter than Africans aren’t Africans. So that means that 100% of humanity is the 2% of Africans plus the 98% of people who aren’t Africans who score higher than Africans.
Do you know what the world population would need to be for Africans to be 2% of the population? Earth would have to have 75 billion people.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,453
@1,398,450 (B)
If the test is normed against the US, not the entire world, then you can get those scores.
Whether it's normed correctly to the population doesn't change whether the scores are higher or lower relatively, it just affects whether you can accurately declare how far a population deviates from the mean.
IQ tests can't tell how much african countries deviate from the mean without global norming, but they can still show who scored better or worse.
If the test is normed against the US, not the entire world, then you can get those scores.
Whether it's normed correctly to the population doesn't change whether the scores are higher or lower relatively, it just affects whether you can accurately declare how far a population deviates from the mean.
IQ tests can't tell how much african countries deviate from the mean without global norming, but they can still show who scored better or worse.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,454
@1,398,452 (B)
No, I just explained why that's happening, you're just choosing to ignore what I already explained.
No, I just explained why that's happening, you're just choosing to ignore what I already explained.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,455
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,456
@previous (B)
> You’re claiming that the data isn’t fake, it’s just rigged.
No, I never said that, that's another strawman. Why are you incapable of responding to what's actually been said?
The data is fine, it's not rigged, but it's not globally normed. If USA has a higher average IQ globally, and the test is normed on that, then getting a 100 (should be average) would mean you need an above-average IQ to get 100.
So 100 isn't actually average without renorming it, but that doesn't change the fact that blacks score lower than whites or asians.
> You’re claiming that the data isn’t fake, it’s just rigged.
No, I never said that, that's another strawman. Why are you incapable of responding to what's actually been said?
The data is fine, it's not rigged, but it's not globally normed. If USA has a higher average IQ globally, and the test is normed on that, then getting a 100 (should be average) would mean you need an above-average IQ to get 100.
So 100 isn't actually average without renorming it, but that doesn't change the fact that blacks score lower than whites or asians.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,457
Really, you’re proving OP’s point. OP’s point is that the data is biased towards white people so that white people will score better than black people. You’re saying that the data is normalized to the United States, a wealthy developed country where everyone speaks English. If you normalize the data for the Untied States, the United States will always have an average IQ of 100 no matter who is living there no matter how smart or dumb they are. So then how is it fair to design and normalize a test for one country and one culture and then give it to completely different people in completely different cultures with completely different access to education and then present the result as unbiased?
Clearly it is biased.
Clearly it is biased.
Anonymous B double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,458
@1,398,456 (C)
60% of people live in Asia, it’s mathematically impossible for a majority of people to score higher than Asians since Asians are the majority of people on earth which makes it mathematically impossible for a globally normalized IQ to say that Asians have an IQ below 100.
60% of people live in Asia, it’s mathematically impossible for a majority of people to score higher than Asians since Asians are the majority of people on earth which makes it mathematically impossible for a globally normalized IQ to say that Asians have an IQ below 100.
Anonymous B triple-posted this 3 months ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,459
Do you not see the obvious problem of presenting statistics in this way?
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,460
@1,398,457 (B)
> Really, you’re proving OP’s point. OP’s point is that the data is biased towards white people so that white people will score better than black people. You’re saying that the data is normalized to the United States, a wealthy developed country where everyone speaks English. If you normalize the data for the Untied States, the United States will always have an average IQ of 100 no matter who is living there no matter how smart or dumb they are.
Norming 100 to America doesn't give America any advantage, it just sets the relative baseline as an average American.
Under 100 would mean dumber than the average American, over 100 would mean smart than the average American.
That doesn't boost American scores relative to others, and speaking English has nothing to do with it, there are language-neutral tests.
> Really, you’re proving OP’s point. OP’s point is that the data is biased towards white people so that white people will score better than black people. You’re saying that the data is normalized to the United States, a wealthy developed country where everyone speaks English. If you normalize the data for the Untied States, the United States will always have an average IQ of 100 no matter who is living there no matter how smart or dumb they are.
Norming 100 to America doesn't give America any advantage, it just sets the relative baseline as an average American.
Under 100 would mean dumber than the average American, over 100 would mean smart than the average American.
That doesn't boost American scores relative to others, and speaking English has nothing to do with it, there are language-neutral tests.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,461
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Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,463
@1,398,460 (C)
The United States is 4% of the world population. It’s possible for the United States to have a much much lower average IQ than the entire continent of Africa. It absolutely changes things depending on how you categorize and normalize people.
The United States is 4% of the world population. It’s possible for the United States to have a much much lower average IQ than the entire continent of Africa. It absolutely changes things depending on how you categorize and normalize people.
Anonymous B double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,464
The truth is arguing with you won’t change your mind because your opinions aren’t based on fact, the conclusion comes first. You’ve already decided what you believe, because you need to feel superior to other people so you’ll defend anything even if it flies in the face of basic mathematical reasoning anyone with an IQ above 70 should be able to understand.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,465
@1,398,463 (B)
If the US had a lower IQ than Africa, then Africans would be scoring over 100 on the American-normed IQ tests, but they're not.
If the US had a lower IQ than Africa, then Africans would be scoring over 100 on the American-normed IQ tests, but they're not.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,466
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,467
@1,398,464 (B)
You used a US-normed IQ to conclude that the world population makes those scores impossible, even though it's not world-normed. I explained it, you're just choosing to ignore how it works.
You used a US-normed IQ to conclude that the world population makes those scores impossible, even though it's not world-normed. I explained it, you're just choosing to ignore how it works.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 55 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,468
@1,398,466 (E)
Because you declared it? I'll believe the professional psychologists who studied this and conducted the actual IQ tests.
Because you declared it? I'll believe the professional psychologists who studied this and conducted the actual IQ tests.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,469
@1,398,451 (C)
Intelligence tests can be biased toward white culture because they often rely on knowledge and experiences more common to middle-class, white populations. The vocabulary, idioms, and specific content of the questions can give an unfair advantage to test-takers from that cultural background.
Examples of white-biased IQ test questions
The "teacup and saucer" question
A pre-school test showed a picture of a teacup and asked children to identify the object that goes with it. The expected answer was a saucer. However, children from homes where saucers are not used would be at a disadvantage compared to those from households where this specific table setting is common.
Literary and vocabulary questions
Some versions of the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS) have included questions based on specific literary and vocabulary knowledge. These can be biased against people from different cultural or linguistic backgrounds who may not be as familiar with particular American or European authors and terminology.
Example: A question that asks, "Who wrote Hamlet?" or "What does the word esoteric mean?" depends on having a specific educational background.
Idiomatic expressions
Questions that rely on understanding specific idioms can create bias. Idioms are figurative expressions deeply rooted in a particular language and culture.
Example: A question that asks, "What is meant by the saying: 'kill two birds with one stone'?" assumes familiarity with this specific English idiom.
Analogy questions
Research has shown that questions testing the understanding of sayings and analogies can be biased when they require specific prior knowledge. In one study, white students significantly outperformed Black students on these types of questions.
Example: A question that presents the analogy "Runner:Marathon" and asks for a similar relationship, with options like "oarsman:regatta," can be biased. The correct answer depends on knowing that a regatta is a rowing competition, a concept more likely to be familiar to children from higher socioeconomic backgrounds.
Sources of bias beyond specific questions
The bias in IQ tests is not limited to individual questions but also reflects broader socioeconomic and cultural factors.
Socioeconomic factors: Higher IQ scores correlate with higher socioeconomic status, suggesting that the tests may be measuring exposure to "privileged" information and educational opportunities rather than innate intelligence.
Standardization norms: IQ tests are normed against a "standard" population that is often predominantly white and middle-class. This can disadvantage minority populations, whose life experiences and backgrounds may differ significantly.
Historical context: Early intelligence tests were developed by figures with eugenicist views who designed them to prove the supposed intellectual inferiority of non-white populations. While modern tests have attempted to reduce bias, this history raises concerns about the validity and purpose of standardized testing.
Examiner bias: Studies conducted as early as the 1930s showed that African Americans tested by white examiners scored lower than those tested by Black examiners. This highlights how the testing environment itself can impact scores.
Intelligence tests can be biased toward white culture because they often rely on knowledge and experiences more common to middle-class, white populations. The vocabulary, idioms, and specific content of the questions can give an unfair advantage to test-takers from that cultural background.
Examples of white-biased IQ test questions
The "teacup and saucer" question
A pre-school test showed a picture of a teacup and asked children to identify the object that goes with it. The expected answer was a saucer. However, children from homes where saucers are not used would be at a disadvantage compared to those from households where this specific table setting is common.
Literary and vocabulary questions
Some versions of the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS) have included questions based on specific literary and vocabulary knowledge. These can be biased against people from different cultural or linguistic backgrounds who may not be as familiar with particular American or European authors and terminology.
Example: A question that asks, "Who wrote Hamlet?" or "What does the word esoteric mean?" depends on having a specific educational background.
Idiomatic expressions
Questions that rely on understanding specific idioms can create bias. Idioms are figurative expressions deeply rooted in a particular language and culture.
Example: A question that asks, "What is meant by the saying: 'kill two birds with one stone'?" assumes familiarity with this specific English idiom.
Analogy questions
Research has shown that questions testing the understanding of sayings and analogies can be biased when they require specific prior knowledge. In one study, white students significantly outperformed Black students on these types of questions.
Example: A question that presents the analogy "Runner:Marathon" and asks for a similar relationship, with options like "oarsman:regatta," can be biased. The correct answer depends on knowing that a regatta is a rowing competition, a concept more likely to be familiar to children from higher socioeconomic backgrounds.
Sources of bias beyond specific questions
The bias in IQ tests is not limited to individual questions but also reflects broader socioeconomic and cultural factors.
Socioeconomic factors: Higher IQ scores correlate with higher socioeconomic status, suggesting that the tests may be measuring exposure to "privileged" information and educational opportunities rather than innate intelligence.
Standardization norms: IQ tests are normed against a "standard" population that is often predominantly white and middle-class. This can disadvantage minority populations, whose life experiences and backgrounds may differ significantly.
Historical context: Early intelligence tests were developed by figures with eugenicist views who designed them to prove the supposed intellectual inferiority of non-white populations. While modern tests have attempted to reduce bias, this history raises concerns about the validity and purpose of standardized testing.
Examiner bias: Studies conducted as early as the 1930s showed that African Americans tested by white examiners scored lower than those tested by Black examiners. This highlights how the testing environment itself can impact scores.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 6 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,470
Like, think about this: which race on this planet has the most incentive to portray Africans in a negative light? It’s whites. The Chinese didn’t colonize Africa, they don’t have an incentive to make Africans look stupid, China accepts more African international students than the United States does. The Europeans and the Americans are the ones who enslaved us. So why is it that the Chinese didn’t make up a test to measure intelligence and then report that Africans score lower on it than Chinese people? How come it’s Europeans specifically that created a test to report that the people they systematically oppressed for hundreds of years are inferior biologically in some way?
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,471
@1,398,469 (A)
Also to add onto your point: different languages affect the way that people think. For example, in English, every sentence is past, present or future tense, but in Chinese, they don’t conjugate words based on tense. But just because people think about the world in a different way doesn’t mean their way of thinking is inferior, which is why using Europe or America as a baseline standard culture to measure the world against makes no sense.
Also to add onto your point: different languages affect the way that people think. For example, in English, every sentence is past, present or future tense, but in Chinese, they don’t conjugate words based on tense. But just because people think about the world in a different way doesn’t mean their way of thinking is inferior, which is why using Europe or America as a baseline standard culture to measure the world against makes no sense.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,472
@1,398,469 (A)
I'm not responding to copypasted walls of text like that.
@1,398,470 (E)
Then give one example of how the test is biased.
I'm not responding to copypasted walls of text like that.
@1,398,470 (E)
Then give one example of how the test is biased.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,474
@previous (C)
It was created by white Europeans and/or white Americans instead of by black Africans. That alone is a bias by itself.
It was created by white Europeans and/or white Americans instead of by black Africans. That alone is a bias by itself.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,475
@1,398,472 (C)
Ok. There is a question about a teacup and saucer. For people in cultures that do not drink tea, or drink it in a different vessel, that question is biased.
Ok. There is a question about a teacup and saucer. For people in cultures that do not drink tea, or drink it in a different vessel, that question is biased.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 6 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,476
@1,398,471 (E)
Then you should be able to find one example of a question on those tests that works like that. You won't, because you're making it up, and you have no idea how IQ tests work or what questions are on them.
Then you should be able to find one example of a question on those tests that works like that. You won't, because you're making it up, and you have no idea how IQ tests work or what questions are on them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,477
@previous (C)
There is a question about a teacup and saucer. For people in cultures that do not drink tea, or drink it in a different vessel, that question is biased.
There is a question about a teacup and saucer. For people in cultures that do not drink tea, or drink it in a different vessel, that question is biased.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,478
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,479
@1,398,475 (A)
No, that's not a question on any IQ test that is actually used by professional psychologists.
There are multiple tests that are accepted as modern academic IQ tests, and none use questions like that.
No, that's not a question on any IQ test that is actually used by professional psychologists.
There are multiple tests that are accepted as modern academic IQ tests, and none use questions like that.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,480
@previous (C)
Have you seen every single IQ test ever made to say that no IQ test ever mentioned tea? You can’t prove a negative.
Have you seen every single IQ test ever made to say that no IQ test ever mentioned tea? You can’t prove a negative.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,481
@1,398,478 (E)
Yet the only attacks on IQ tests so far have been a complete misunderstanding of how IQ tests are normed, and repeatedly asserting it's biased without giving any real examples of a biased question.
Yet the only attacks on IQ tests so far have been a complete misunderstanding of how IQ tests are normed, and repeatedly asserting it's biased without giving any real examples of a biased question.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,482
@previous (C)
Are you sure, because every time I see white people like you posting your biased IQ maps you do it to dehumanize Africans like we’re subhuman and deserve to be mistreated. I’m pretty sure the reason why we don’t like you is because you don’t like us.
Are you sure, because every time I see white people like you posting your biased IQ maps you do it to dehumanize Africans like we’re subhuman and deserve to be mistreated. I’m pretty sure the reason why we don’t like you is because you don’t like us.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 19 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,483
@1,398,480 (E)
Tests are specifically designed to avoid those types of questions.
And yes, I can't prove a negative without going over every single question on any modern accepted IQ test, which is why the burden of proof is on you to give any real example of a biased question, which you have been unable to do.
Tests are specifically designed to avoid those types of questions.
And yes, I can't prove a negative without going over every single question on any modern accepted IQ test, which is why the burden of proof is on you to give any real example of a biased question, which you have been unable to do.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 4 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,484
And you is a collective, racist white people.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,485
@1,398,479 (C)
The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale has this question: "“What does ‘orchestra’ mean?” An orchestra is something that white Europeans and Westerners might be familiar with, but many cultures have no such musical concept or group. They play music differently.
The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale has this question: "“What does ‘orchestra’ mean?” An orchestra is something that white Europeans and Westerners might be familiar with, but many cultures have no such musical concept or group. They play music differently.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,486
@1,398,483 (C)
What proof have you provided for anything? All you’ve done is try to defend made up statistics created to justify your people mistreating my people, and the biggest irony in this is I’m a black guy who scored highly on an IQ test and I’ve shown you how the math doesn’t add up, and you never really had a coherent response to that. Obviously you’re smarter than me, that’s why you can’t do math.
What proof have you provided for anything? All you’ve done is try to defend made up statistics created to justify your people mistreating my people, and the biggest irony in this is I’m a black guy who scored highly on an IQ test and I’ve shown you how the math doesn’t add up, and you never really had a coherent response to that. Obviously you’re smarter than me, that’s why you can’t do math.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,487
@1,398,482 (E)
If someone is sharing those stats to demean black people, their motives don't magically invalidate the data.
If someone is sharing those stats to demean black people, their motives don't magically invalidate the data.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,488
@previous (C)
The data is invalid because those people created that data that isn’t actually data for that purpose and that purpose only.
The data is invalid because those people created that data that isn’t actually data for that purpose and that purpose only.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,489
There’s absolutely no reason why I should believe in this lie, when I’ve already explained to you that the people who invented the lie had a reason to tell the lie that is against my own self interest, when I already explained to you how the lie is mathematically impossible to be true, and when I explained to you that even if I take you for your word and believe your story, your description of how the IQ maps were made is still biased in my eyes.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,490
@1,398,486 (E)
> What proof have you provided for anything?
You're claiming there are biased questions, that's on you to prove.
> All you’ve done is try to defend made up statistics
The National Longitudinal Study of Youth shows that blacks have a lower IQ on average. That's not something I made.
> the biggest irony in this is I’m a black guy who scored highly on an IQ test
To show your intelligence you're broadcasting that you don't understand averages, incredible.
> and I’ve shown you how the math doesn’t add up
No, you had that explained, and repeatedly ignored the explanation.
> and you never really had a coherent response to that.
I explained those tests are normed on American, not global, averages.
> What proof have you provided for anything?
You're claiming there are biased questions, that's on you to prove.
> All you’ve done is try to defend made up statistics
The National Longitudinal Study of Youth shows that blacks have a lower IQ on average. That's not something I made.
> the biggest irony in this is I’m a black guy who scored highly on an IQ test
To show your intelligence you're broadcasting that you don't understand averages, incredible.
> and I’ve shown you how the math doesn’t add up
No, you had that explained, and repeatedly ignored the explanation.
> and you never really had a coherent response to that.
I explained those tests are normed on American, not global, averages.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 24 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,491
@1,398,488 (E)
> those people created that data that isn’t actually data for that purpose and that purpose only.
Oh, okay.
> those people created that data that isn’t actually data for that purpose and that purpose only.
Oh, okay.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 34 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,492
And what’s the point of believing in this stupid lie that Africans are all morons with IQs of 70, when I took an IQ test and I scored higher than 98% of the population? If I was genetically predestined to have a lower IQ than white people, I wouldn’t be more intelligent according to the test white people invented than almost all white people on the planet.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,493
@1,398,489 (E)
Then why can't you show a biased question?
How did the data get falsified? Did the hundreds of volunteers all conspire to alter the results?
Then why can't you show a biased question?
How did the data get falsified? Did the hundreds of volunteers all conspire to alter the results?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,494
@previous (C)
Because what the fuck do you want me to do? Why should I have to show you a biased question when I’ve already shown you how idiotic you are for believing in something that is this unbelievable.
Because what the fuck do you want me to do? Why should I have to show you a biased question when I’ve already shown you how idiotic you are for believing in something that is this unbelievable.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,495
The only reason you believe it to be true is because you want it to be true and the only reason you want it to be true is because you’re evil.
Anonymous E triple-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,496
And if you’re not evil, then you wouldn’t be a freaking Nazi. And you can cry about me calling you a Nazi, but this is verbatim what Adolf Hitler wanted people to believe.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,497
@1,398,492 (E)
> And what’s the point of believing in this stupid lie that Africans are all morons with IQs of 70, when I took an IQ test and I scored higher than 98% of the population?
Blacks in America won't have the same average as the entire continent of Africa, and one person scoring outside the average doesn't mean the average is wrong. There are outliers for any average. There are 7-foot tall asian-americans, but they don't disprove the fact that asian-americans are shorter on average.
> If I was genetically predestined to have a lower IQ than white people, I wouldn’t be more intelligent according to the test white people invented than almost all white people on the planet.
The data shows that all these groups fall on a bell-curve, and there are outliers in all groups. You are arguing against a claim no one has made - a strawman, typical for you.
> And what’s the point of believing in this stupid lie that Africans are all morons with IQs of 70, when I took an IQ test and I scored higher than 98% of the population?
Blacks in America won't have the same average as the entire continent of Africa, and one person scoring outside the average doesn't mean the average is wrong. There are outliers for any average. There are 7-foot tall asian-americans, but they don't disprove the fact that asian-americans are shorter on average.
> If I was genetically predestined to have a lower IQ than white people, I wouldn’t be more intelligent according to the test white people invented than almost all white people on the planet.
The data shows that all these groups fall on a bell-curve, and there are outliers in all groups. You are arguing against a claim no one has made - a strawman, typical for you.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,498
@1,398,495 (E)
I believe it's true because my beliefs follow the data, I don't just ignore data when it conflicts with something idealistic.
I believe it's true because my beliefs follow the data, I don't just ignore data when it conflicts with something idealistic.
Anonymous C triple-posted this 3 months ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,499
@1,398,496 (E)
So in order to not be a Nazi I have to ignore data that's inconvenient? No thanks, I'll continue to believe in the scientific method instead.
So in order to not be a Nazi I have to ignore data that's inconvenient? No thanks, I'll continue to believe in the scientific method instead.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,500
@1,398,497 (C)
Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the planet combined, but you expect me to believe that all Africans share a common trait of being unintelligent when measured by a test that said I was extremely intelligent? Get lost!
Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the planet combined, but you expect me to believe that all Africans share a common trait of being unintelligent when measured by a test that said I was extremely intelligent? Get lost!
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,501
@1,398,499 (C)
Just because someone reported numbers doesn’t mean the number is a real number. I’ve maintained this entire time that the statistics are obviously mathematically impossible and you can’t refute that.
Just because someone reported numbers doesn’t mean the number is a real number. I’ve maintained this entire time that the statistics are obviously mathematically impossible and you can’t refute that.
Anonymous E triple-posted this 3 months ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,502
You are a liar!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 9 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,503
@1,398,493 (C)
The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale has this question: "“What does ‘orchestra’ mean?” An orchestra is something that white Europeans and Westerners might be familiar with, but many cultures have no such musical concept or group. They play music differently.
The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale has this question: "“What does ‘orchestra’ mean?” An orchestra is something that white Europeans and Westerners might be familiar with, but many cultures have no such musical concept or group. They play music differently.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 18 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,504
@1,398,495 (E)
The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale has this question: "“What does ‘orchestra’ mean?” An orchestra is something that white Europeans and Westerners might be familiar with, but many cultures have no such musical concept or group. They play music differently.
The Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale has this question: "“What does ‘orchestra’ mean?” An orchestra is something that white Europeans and Westerners might be familiar with, but many cultures have no such musical concept or group. They play music differently.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,505
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 8 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,506
@1,398,503 (A)
In some African cultures there wasn’t a distinction between an audience and the performers, the event was just everyone dancing together.
In some African cultures there wasn’t a distinction between an audience and the performers, the event was just everyone dancing together.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,507
Trump voters are white niggers. Thanks.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,508
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,509
@previous (C)
How do you explain that I’m smarter than virtually all white people according to the test which you believe is an objective measure of intelligence if you believe that all black people are objectively less intelligent than white people?
How do you explain that I’m smarter than virtually all white people according to the test which you believe is an objective measure of intelligence if you believe that all black people are objectively less intelligent than white people?
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,510
My IQ is higher than any IQ score I’ve seen for any country listed on any "IQ map." And I have met far East Asians who told me they thought I was smart. How do you explain that, exactly?
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,511
@1,398,509 (E)
I already said there are outliers in any group, so even if what you said is true, it doesn't contradict what I claimed.
@previous (E)
Outliers, as mentioned in previous posts.
I already said there are outliers in any group, so even if what you said is true, it doesn't contradict what I claimed.
@previous (E)
Outliers, as mentioned in previous posts.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,512
@previous (C)
If it’s really true that almost all black people are less intelligent than white people and that almost all white people are less intelligent than Asian people, and I’m a black person who’s so lucky that I’m more intelligent than almost all Asian people, then shouldn’t you worship me?
If it’s really true that almost all black people are less intelligent than white people and that almost all white people are less intelligent than Asian people, and I’m a black person who’s so lucky that I’m more intelligent than almost all Asian people, then shouldn’t you worship me?
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 14 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,513
@1,398,509 (E)@1,398,510 (E)
Not sure why you can't understand this.
An anecdote doesn't invalidate an average.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,514
@1,398,512 (E)
> If it’s really true that almost all black people are less intelligent than white people and that almost all white people are less intelligent than Asian people
No one claimed that, you are just making another strawman, which seems to be an unavoidable pattern for you.
> and I’m a black person who’s so lucky that I’m more intelligent than almost all Asian people, then shouldn’t you worship me?
Who ever said outliers should be worshiped?
> If it’s really true that almost all black people are less intelligent than white people and that almost all white people are less intelligent than Asian people
No one claimed that, you are just making another strawman, which seems to be an unavoidable pattern for you.
> and I’m a black person who’s so lucky that I’m more intelligent than almost all Asian people, then shouldn’t you worship me?
Who ever said outliers should be worshiped?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 35 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,515
@1,398,508 (C)
Language is a part of intelligence. Any test that uses no language is inherently biased.
Language is a part of intelligence. Any test that uses no language is inherently biased.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 3 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,516
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,517
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,519
@previous (C)
Against humans, as all humans use language. Language is a part of intelligence. In other words, it's a flawed test and therefore not trustworthy. That's like a test that eliminates all math. It is not valid.
Against humans, as all humans use language. Language is a part of intelligence. In other words, it's a flawed test and therefore not trustworthy. That's like a test that eliminates all math. It is not valid.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 6 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,520
Am I supposed to not notice that by your logic that if blacks are inferior to whites because whites have higher IQs, that if I as a black guy, have an IQ that’s higher than 98% of the population, then it logically follows that I’m so special that I’m superior to 8 billion people as an individual?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 19 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,521
boof joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,522
to many fucking replies in as short period, you fucks, can't read all that
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,523
@1,398,519 (A)
If it's biased against all humans equally, then why are blacks doing worse on the tests?
If it's biased against all humans equally, then why are blacks doing worse on the tests?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,525
@previous (C)
> If it's biased against all humans equally, then why are blacks doing worse on the tests?
OP didn’t say equally.
> If it's biased against all humans equally, then why are blacks doing worse on the tests?
OP didn’t say equally.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,526
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,527
@1,398,525 (E)
Yes, and if OP wants to clarify that it affects some humans more than others, I'll consider that position.
Otherwise, there's the obvious question.
Yes, and if OP wants to clarify that it affects some humans more than others, I'll consider that position.
Otherwise, there's the obvious question.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 47 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,528
@1,398,526 (A)
It's biased against humans, because humans use language, but for some reason that hurts blacks more than whites? Even though both use language?
Please explain how that flaw affects some humans more than others.
It's biased against humans, because humans use language, but for some reason that hurts blacks more than whites? Even though both use language?
Please explain how that flaw affects some humans more than others.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 0 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,529
@1,398,527 (C)
Given the context that’s obviously not what OP meant, you just used it as an opportunity to make a dishonest argument.
Given the context that’s obviously not what OP meant, you just used it as an opportunity to make a dishonest argument.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,530
@1,398,528 (C)
> Please explain how that flaw affects some humans more than others.
Well the answer is obviously we don’t all speak the same language idiot.
> Please explain how that flaw affects some humans more than others.
Well the answer is obviously we don’t all speak the same language idiot.
Anonymous E triple-posted this 3 months ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,531
Sorry, I just find it annoying when people ask stupid questions.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,532
@1,398,530 (E)
> Well the answer is obviously we don’t all speak the same language idiot.
Irrelevant since we're talking about a test that doesn't use language. No one gets it in their language, so why are blacks doing worse regardless of which language they speak?
> Well the answer is obviously we don’t all speak the same language idiot.
Irrelevant since we're talking about a test that doesn't use language. No one gets it in their language, so why are blacks doing worse regardless of which language they speak?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,533
Language is a complicated thing. For example, English and Chinese both have the same word order but Irish has a different word order than English and Japanese has a different word order than Chinese. The effects language will have on cognition aren’t simple and aren’t something you can just ignore.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 43 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,534
@1,398,532 (C)
It doesn’t matter, people understand the world through language, so even on a nonverbal test, people will be thinking about the objects they see in their minds using their native language anyway.
It doesn’t matter, people understand the world through language, so even on a nonverbal test, people will be thinking about the objects they see in their minds using their native language anyway.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,535
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,536
@1,398,534 (E)
Yet African countries that speak English and French do worse than white countries where people speak those languages. And people within the US have a racial IQ gap, even though blacks speak English in the US.
Yet African countries that speak English and French do worse than white countries where people speak those languages. And people within the US have a racial IQ gap, even though blacks speak English in the US.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 17 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,537
@1,398,535 (C)
> They are when you're doing a multiple-choice test that doesn't use language.
Idk if that was intended to be a trick, but yes they are using language in their heads even if they’re not necessarily speaking out loud.
> They are when you're doing a multiple-choice test that doesn't use language.
Idk if that was intended to be a trick, but yes they are using language in their heads even if they’re not necessarily speaking out loud.
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Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,538
@previous (E)
Then why do races have different averages even when they are speaking the same language?
Then why do races have different averages even when they are speaking the same language?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,539
@1,398,536 (C)
It’s not that simple. For example, in Nigeria, a lot of people speak English, but they speak English to communicate between different ethnic groups. People still speak native African languages like Igbo or Yoruba or Hausa in their own local communities.
It’s not that simple. For example, in Nigeria, a lot of people speak English, but they speak English to communicate between different ethnic groups. People still speak native African languages like Igbo or Yoruba or Hausa in their own local communities.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,540
There are differences in how your brain works based on what your native language is. For example, people who speak Chinese natively are more likely to have perfect pitch because they speak a tonal language. If Chinese people gave everybody a test on how well they could hear tones, Nigerians would probably score a lot better than Europeans because west African languages are tonal languages.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,541
@1,398,539 (E)
@previous (E)
What about African languages are preventing them from selecting the next sequence in a pattern correctly, lol.
@previous (E)
What about African languages are preventing them from selecting the next sequence in a pattern correctly, lol.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,542
@previous (C)
If you took a test that was created by west Africans or Chinese people where you had to tell if two tones had the same pitch on an absolute scale, you would do worse than they would.
If you took a test that was created by west Africans or Chinese people where you had to tell if two tones had the same pitch on an absolute scale, you would do worse than they would.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,543
@1,398,541 (C)
I don’t know if you’ve ever noticed this, but if you look at the patterns in a carpet, you can tell whether it was created by someone in Europe or someone in the Middle East, because different cultures use different designs. There are different ways of understanding the world to your own that are also valid.
I don’t know if you’ve ever noticed this, but if you look at the patterns in a carpet, you can tell whether it was created by someone in Europe or someone in the Middle East, because different cultures use different designs. There are different ways of understanding the world to your own that are also valid.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,544
@previous (E)
We aren't talking about artistic styles, it's a test to see if you can identify a pattern and complete it.
We aren't talking about artistic styles, it's a test to see if you can identify a pattern and complete it.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,545
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,546
I can tell it’s not motivated by logic, it’s motivated by some emotion you have.
Anonymous E triple-posted this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,547
I can tell that you don’t just believe this because you think it’s true, you actively want to believe it. If you could choose the truth, you would rather have a world where Africans are inferior than a world than we’re equal, and I don’t know why because to me that’s evil.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,548
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,549
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 4 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,550
@1,398,547 (E)
Africa hasn't advanced civilization, IQ tests without any cultural bias show blacks have less ability to recognize and complete patterns.
There's no scientific case that all these civilizations and races are equal, that's just idealistic thinking without evidence.
Africa hasn't advanced civilization, IQ tests without any cultural bias show blacks have less ability to recognize and complete patterns.
There's no scientific case that all these civilizations and races are equal, that's just idealistic thinking without evidence.
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,551
@1,398,549 (E)
The only thing you can say is that somehow not having language on a test is biased against people who speak African languages, lol.
Saying it's not real over and over doesn't invalidate the fact that black people score lower on a simple pattern-recognition test on average.
The only thing you can say is that somehow not having language on a test is biased against people who speak African languages, lol.
Saying it's not real over and over doesn't invalidate the fact that black people score lower on a simple pattern-recognition test on average.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,552
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,553
@1,398,551 (C)
If your pattern recognition is so good, how did you just get me and OP mixed up, because that’s what OP said.
If your pattern recognition is so good, how did you just get me and OP mixed up, because that’s what OP said.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,554
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 37 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,555
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,556
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 22 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,557
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,558
@previous (E)
Right, because you've just make an assertion over and over without any evidence. You can't link to a post that doesn't exist.
Right, because you've just make an assertion over and over without any evidence. You can't link to a post that doesn't exist.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,559
Honestly, the only reason why I’m talking to you is because I think that the way people like you think is disturbing and I want to understand it but I just can’t understand why you choose evil, exactly. And I want to believe that there’s goodness inside of you, but I think I’ve been proven wrong. You’re just completely evil.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 23 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,560
And I think people like you don’t need to live in our world.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,561
@previous (E)
"People like you." And there we have it, folks. He is not interested in science and bias. He's just another stupid racist. Thanks for confirming.
"People like you." And there we have it, folks. He is not interested in science and bias. He's just another stupid racist. Thanks for confirming.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,562
@1,398,559 (E)
> Honestly, the only reason why I’m talking to you is because I think that the way people like you think is disturbing and I want to understand it but I just can’t understand why you choose evil, exactly.
You can't understand how someone would develop a worldview by looking at the data, and using that to form beliefs?
There's data saying races are different, that you ignore and call biased without giving any evidence.
There's no data saying races are the same, but you choose to believe that anyway.
What's hard to understand about that?
> Honestly, the only reason why I’m talking to you is because I think that the way people like you think is disturbing and I want to understand it but I just can’t understand why you choose evil, exactly.
You can't understand how someone would develop a worldview by looking at the data, and using that to form beliefs?
There's data saying races are different, that you ignore and call biased without giving any evidence.
There's no data saying races are the same, but you choose to believe that anyway.
What's hard to understand about that?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,563
@1,398,561 (A)
He’s talking about the racist guy, anonymous C is the only one in this thread who’s been making pro eugenics Nazi arguments.
He’s talking about the racist guy, anonymous C is the only one in this thread who’s been making pro eugenics Nazi arguments.
Anonymous H double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,564
@1,398,562 (C)
None of those things are true, those are just excuses you use to hurt other people. Most normal people don’t want to hurt other people.
None of those things are true, those are just excuses you use to hurt other people. Most normal people don’t want to hurt other people.
Anonymous H triple-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,565
Even if races weren’t the same, there’s no reason to hurt someone because they’re different from you. I think you’re a dangerous person. I wouldn’t be surprised if you shot up a school.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,566
@1,398,563 (H)
I never said anyone group should be exterminated, so what are you implying?
Races are different, and have different IQs. You can accept reality without hating anyone.
You know dogs aren't as smart as humans, but does that mean you hate them? No, obviously.
I never said anyone group should be exterminated, so what are you implying?
Races are different, and have different IQs. You can accept reality without hating anyone.
You know dogs aren't as smart as humans, but does that mean you hate them? No, obviously.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,567
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 3 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,568
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 29 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,569
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,570
@1,398,567 (H)
So the people who worked for the National Longitudinal Study of Youth were all conspiring together to lie, or what?
So the people who worked for the National Longitudinal Study of Youth were all conspiring together to lie, or what?
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 23 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,571
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 10 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,572
@1,398,569 (H)
Believe whatever you want, but I'm only going to defend what I've actually said.
If you can't refute what I've said, that speaks for itself.
Believe whatever you want, but I'm only going to defend what I've actually said.
If you can't refute what I've said, that speaks for itself.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,573
@previous (C)
You can’t manipulate me, I know what you are. You’re the type of person that makes Satan sad at humanity.
You can’t manipulate me, I know what you are. You’re the type of person that makes Satan sad at humanity.
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Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 48 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,574
@1,398,571 (H)
Those tests were administrated by local public school teachers across America.
Why were thousands of teachers altering test scores, and how did they keep the conspiracy under wraps?
Those tests were administrated by local public school teachers across America.
Why were thousands of teachers altering test scores, and how did they keep the conspiracy under wraps?
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,575
@1,398,573 (H)
I don't think all those teachers conspired, and I don't think they'd be able to keep it a secret if they did try something like that.
I don't think all those teachers conspired, and I don't think they'd be able to keep it a secret if they did try something like that.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 16 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,576
@1,398,574 (C)
Yeah, the country that’s been oppressing black people for 200 years hates black people. Go figure.
Yeah, the country that’s been oppressing black people for 200 years hates black people. Go figure.
Anonymous H double-posted this 3 months ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,577
@1,398,575 (C)
Oh yeah right, you’re just so concerned about the honesty of these random people you’ve never met. I don’t believe that for a second.
Oh yeah right, you’re just so concerned about the honesty of these random people you’ve never met. I don’t believe that for a second.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,579
@1,398,576 (H)
Public school teachers, though?
Thousands of stereotypical liberal, unionized, educated people who lean left politically decided to secretly edit the results of students based on race?
Public school teachers, though?
Thousands of stereotypical liberal, unionized, educated people who lean left politically decided to secretly edit the results of students based on race?
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,580
@previous (C)
Oh, so you do believe it’s possible for the entire country to hide a massive conspiracy. You’re a liar. Clear as day.
Oh, so you do believe it’s possible for the entire country to hide a massive conspiracy. You’re a liar. Clear as day.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,581
@1,398,577 (H)
No, I said the opposite, I'm not concerned with their honesty at all because the idea of tampering is so unbelievable.
It's too many people, who are biased in the other direction, doing something very risky so that a dataset is more racist?
No, I said the opposite, I'm not concerned with their honesty at all because the idea of tampering is so unbelievable.
It's too many people, who are biased in the other direction, doing something very risky so that a dataset is more racist?
Anonymous C double-posted this 3 months ago, 17 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,582
@1,398,580 (H)
> Oh, so you do believe it’s possible for the entire country to hide a massive conspiracy
No.
> Oh, so you do believe it’s possible for the entire country to hide a massive conspiracy
No.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,586
@1,398,581 (C)
> It's too many people, who are biased in the other direction, doing something very risky so that a dataset is more racist?
I don’t think you’re genuinely worried about the answer to this question.
> It's too many people, who are biased in the other direction, doing something very risky so that a dataset is more racist?
I don’t think you’re genuinely worried about the answer to this question.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,588
@previous (H)
Correct, I'm not.
There's no way a group of liberals spread around the country edited all the IQ tests to make blacks look bad.
Correct, I'm not.
There's no way a group of liberals spread around the country edited all the IQ tests to make blacks look bad.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,590
In fact, I don’t think you’ve ever been worried about the answer to any question you’ve ever asked. You don’t ask questions because you want to know the answer to a question. You ask a question because you think the absence of an answer proves you right, except it doesn’t, because you only need to be wrong for one reason to be wrong, you don’t need to be wrong for every reason. There are an infinite number of questions you could ask, and no matter how many questions you ask are answered, you will always ask another question. Because the truth is, you don’t believe what you’re saying. You don’t believe that this is the truth, you know it’s not, but you’re emotionally dependent on a certain narrative about the world, and without that narrative, you don’t have a sense of self. And when you lose that sense of self and reflect, you die, and you’re scared to die.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,591
@previous (H)
If there's one reason why the test is wrong, give it.
Alluding to some reason, without giving a concrete example of what that flaw is, isn't proving your point.
I explained how the results were collected, but you can't explain where the bias is, or how the cheating happened.
If there's one reason why the test is wrong, give it.
Alluding to some reason, without giving a concrete example of what that flaw is, isn't proving your point.
I explained how the results were collected, but you can't explain where the bias is, or how the cheating happened.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,592
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,594
@previous (H)
Correct.
You need help figuring out how to tell fact from fiction. Starting with an idealistic worldview, and getting mad at anyone who disagrees, doesn't get you to the truth.
Correct.
You need help figuring out how to tell fact from fiction. Starting with an idealistic worldview, and getting mad at anyone who disagrees, doesn't get you to the truth.
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Anonymous D replied with this 3 months ago, 45 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,609
@previous (⚫️)
Are you one of those losers that thinks you get a pass for avoiding the hard r?
This is an inclusive website, fuck you.
Are you one of those losers that thinks you get a pass for avoiding the hard r?
This is an inclusive website, fuck you.
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⚫️ replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,610
@previous (D)
I’m black though, that’s why my username is a black hole. Anonymous C is the guy who’s arguing unironically that blacks are biologically inferior.
I’m black though, that’s why my username is a black hole. Anonymous C is the guy who’s arguing unironically that blacks are biologically inferior.
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Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,614
@previous (⚫️)
The silty melanin in your brain is blocking electrical signals, the contaminant is a resistive material in an environment that needs clear conductive electrochemical paths to perform fully.
You need gene therapy, dialysis, dove, and jesus.
The silty melanin in your brain is blocking electrical signals, the contaminant is a resistive material in an environment that needs clear conductive electrochemical paths to perform fully.
You need gene therapy, dialysis, dove, and jesus.
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You a European Nigga ain’t you? If you a European Nigga you gonna be a European Nigga and you’re gonna shut the fuck up.
E U R O C R A C K A joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 21 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,620
Blackest Africa must accept the European way. We are more intelligent and more refined culturally and genetically than the Africans, because for centuries the European man has studied the art of the cock.
https://youtu.be/mG8l3k_rA3o
https://youtu.be/mG8l3k_rA3o
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 34 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,623
Can someone tl;Dr this topic for me, or is it more boring niganon spam
Meta joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 7 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,635
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Basically: gay chicken is a game where you grab each others wieners and whoever gets hard first loses the game.
Basically: gay chicken is a game where you grab each others wieners and whoever gets hard first loses the game.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 13 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,786
Trump is old; replace him.
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@1,398,441 (B)
> I’m black, and when they tested my IQ, I scored higher than 98% of people.
> of people
> I’m black, and when they tested my IQ, I scored higher than 98% of people.
> of people