Topic: Hippity hippity AI get off my property
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 months ago #130,276
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 40 seconds later[^] [v] #1,398,173
Eh it’s probably bullshit. We’re invincible!
boof joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,188
feels like another NFT bandwagon
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,208
@previous (boof)
NFTs don't do anything its 100% speculation on a made up asset.
AI actually does a lot, and can replace many jobs.
NFTs don't do anything its 100% speculation on a made up asset.
AI actually does a lot, and can replace many jobs.
boof replied with this 3 months ago, 44 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,234
feels like the latest in the long string of money chasing the next big thing, always got to be the next big thing for the bandwagon
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,238
@previous (boof)
Then don't buy Nvidia stock and you wont lose your money.
Whether the stock goes up or down, millions of people will be replaced because running a GPU is cheaper than having a real human answer a phone and write emails.
Then don't buy Nvidia stock and you wont lose your money.
Whether the stock goes up or down, millions of people will be replaced because running a GPU is cheaper than having a real human answer a phone and write emails.
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boof replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,246
hey that's great
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 16 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,263
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 30 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,265
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 12 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,283
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,291
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,293
@previous (C)
With human supervisors, lol.
So basically it's an experiment that occasionally kills people.
With human supervisors, lol.
So basically it's an experiment that occasionally kills people.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,297
@previous (E)
A small team that contacts you over a speaker call if you press a button in the car or it gets stuck.
If a thousand rideshare drivers are replaced by robotaxis and 20 customer support techs, that's automation.
AI customer support calls already exist too, the human operators are just there since Waymo hasn't bothered to set up an AI call center yet.
A small team that contacts you over a speaker call if you press a button in the car or it gets stuck.
If a thousand rideshare drivers are replaced by robotaxis and 20 customer support techs, that's automation.
AI customer support calls already exist too, the human operators are just there since Waymo hasn't bothered to set up an AI call center yet.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,300
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,302
@previous (E)
No, not hypotheticals, Waymo operates thousands of rides per day each, in multiple cities.
Other companies have already automated customer support calls.
Humans are always more expensive, and can't do anything a bot can't do.
No, not hypotheticals, Waymo operates thousands of rides per day each, in multiple cities.
Other companies have already automated customer support calls.
Humans are always more expensive, and can't do anything a bot can't do.
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,308
@previous (C)
If I were to raise my hand to summon a taxi in Midtown Manhattan, what is the probability that the taxi that comes to me is not driven by a human?
If I were to raise my hand to summon a taxi in Midtown Manhattan, what is the probability that the taxi that comes to me is not driven by a human?
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,309
@previous (F)
You could walk onto an amish farm and suggest agriculture and textiles haven't been automated.
You could walk onto an amish farm and suggest agriculture and textiles haven't been automated.
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 14 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,324
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,325
@previous (G)
It's not a masurement of probability at all.
Technology exists, even if it's not where you happen to be at that moment.
self-driving cars can expand exponentially once they exist. You can drive for uber now, but it's quickly being automated.
It's not a masurement of probability at all.
Technology exists, even if it's not where you happen to be at that moment.
self-driving cars can expand exponentially once they exist. You can drive for uber now, but it's quickly being automated.
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,386
@previous (C)
> self-driving cars can expand exponentially once they exist.
You finally admit they don't exist. That's a good first step.
> self-driving cars can expand exponentially once they exist.
You finally admit they don't exist. That's a good first step.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,415
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,416
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,418
@previous (I)
> You just said they didn't exist.
Teslas defiantly aren’t "fully self driving" they’ve had their fair share of lawsuits over deaths caused by that lol
> You just said they didn't exist.
Teslas defiantly aren’t "fully self driving" they’ve had their fair share of lawsuits over deaths caused by that lol
Anonymous J double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,419
@1,398,283 (E)
> Has it replaced taxi drivers yet?
You know I never thought about that I use uber all the time lol
> Has it replaced taxi drivers yet?
You know I never thought about that I use uber all the time lol
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,420
@1,398,416 (I)
No I didn't, I said once it exists (which it does) it can expand exponentially.
Do you think Google create a fake company, and thousands of fake reviews and only you caight on?
No I didn't, I said once it exists (which it does) it can expand exponentially.
Do you think Google create a fake company, and thousands of fake reviews and only you caight on?
Anonymous J replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,422
Anonymous J double-posted this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,425
(60% of their workforce is software engineers).
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,426
@1,398,422 (J)
They've spent most of their time doing R&D to make the first cars, and are now testing their cars in a few cities.
While they are in the development phase they will have a different ratio then when they finally roll out to most cities.
They've spent most of their time doing R&D to make the first cars, and are now testing their cars in a few cities.
While they are in the development phase they will have a different ratio then when they finally roll out to most cities.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,427
@previous (K)
Waymo was founded in 2009, so they’ve been in "the development phase" for 16 years now.
Waymo was founded in 2009, so they’ve been in "the development phase" for 16 years now.
Anonymous J double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,428
The estimates vary but google has somewhere between 40 to 60 thousand software engineers.
Anonymous K replied with this 3 months ago, 40 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,429
Anonymous J replied with this 3 months ago, 41 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,430
Anonymous K replied with this 3 months ago, 24 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,431
@1,398,428 (J)
So Waymo has relatively few engineers, and they've already made software that has a lower accident rate than a human, and that software can be copied and pasted for free into new cars. Retaining engineers just allows them to improve the software further, so it just gets better.
So Waymo has relatively few engineers, and they've already made software that has a lower accident rate than a human, and that software can be copied and pasted for free into new cars. Retaining engineers just allows them to improve the software further, so it just gets better.
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Anonymous K double-posted this 3 months ago, 56 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,432
@1,398,430 (J)
No, I said they "spent most of their time doing R&D" and you decided that meant they have always and continue to be in that phase.
Your comprehension skills are terrible. Most =/= all.
No, I said they "spent most of their time doing R&D" and you decided that meant they have always and continue to be in that phase.
Your comprehension skills are terrible. Most =/= all.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 months ago, 19 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,433
Anonymous J double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,434
@1,398,432 (K)
@1,398,426 (K)
> While they are in the development phase they will have a different ratio then when they finally roll out to most cities.
@1,398,429 (K)
> No, they've had a commercial product for a few years now.
You said they have more employees than cars because they’re in the development phase and when I said they’ve been in the development phase for 16 years, you said no they’re not in the development phase because they have a product.
So which is it? Are they in development or are they not in development?
@1,398,426 (K)
> While they are in the development phase they will have a different ratio then when they finally roll out to most cities.
@1,398,429 (K)
> No, they've had a commercial product for a few years now.
You said they have more employees than cars because they’re in the development phase and when I said they’ve been in the development phase for 16 years, you said no they’re not in the development phase because they have a product.
So which is it? Are they in development or are they not in development?
Anonymous K replied with this 3 months ago, 49 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,436
@1,398,433 (J)
> They have more engineers than cars
They have more engineers than cars now, but aren't done expanding.
Do you think they're going to have 10x as many engineers when they are in 10x more cities? R&D doesn't scale when they expand to a new market, but customer support would.
> that get paid more than uber drivers do.
Users are willing to pay more to use a Waymo over Uber or Lyft.
> They have more engineers than cars
They have more engineers than cars now, but aren't done expanding.
Do you think they're going to have 10x as many engineers when they are in 10x more cities? R&D doesn't scale when they expand to a new market, but customer support would.
> that get paid more than uber drivers do.
Users are willing to pay more to use a Waymo over Uber or Lyft.
Anonymous K double-posted this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,437
@1,398,434 (J)
> > While they are in the development phase they will have a different ratio then when they finally roll out to most cities.
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Yes, they have had a commercial product for years, and they are no longer in the pre-rollout phase. That doesn't mean they have zero employees working to improve the product further.
It took 9 years of development before users could order a car. It's been 6 years since and they have expanded from 1 to 3 cities, with 2 more planned.
> You said they have more employees than cars because they’re in the development phase and when I said they’ve been in the development phase for 16 years, you said no they’re not in the development phase because they have a product.
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> So which is it? Are they in development or are they not in development?
They finished their 9-year long pre-rollout development. They won't stop refining the product unless they go out of business.
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Yes, they have had a commercial product for years, and they are no longer in the pre-rollout phase. That doesn't mean they have zero employees working to improve the product further.
It took 9 years of development before users could order a car. It's been 6 years since and they have expanded from 1 to 3 cities, with 2 more planned.
> You said they have more employees than cars because they’re in the development phase and when I said they’ve been in the development phase for 16 years, you said no they’re not in the development phase because they have a product.
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> So which is it? Are they in development or are they not in development?
They finished their 9-year long pre-rollout development. They won't stop refining the product unless they go out of business.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,626
Shinkansen: built in 5 years, no deaths since it opened 61 years ago.
Waymo: still in development after 16 years, has killed people.
Waymo: still in development after 16 years, has killed people.
Anonymous K replied with this 3 months ago, 59 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,627
@previous (M)
> Shinkansen: built in 5 years, no deaths since it opened 61 years ago.
Building a faster train isn't the same challenge as building a car that can drive itself.
> Waymo: still in development after 16 years
And no, they took 9 years of development
> has killed people.
It's safer than human drivers already, there are fewer deaths because of self-driving cars. Pointing out that it isn't 100% perfect missed the point: it just needs to be better than humans.
> Shinkansen: built in 5 years, no deaths since it opened 61 years ago.
Building a faster train isn't the same challenge as building a car that can drive itself.
> Waymo: still in development after 16 years
And no, they took 9 years of development
> has killed people.
It's safer than human drivers already, there are fewer deaths because of self-driving cars. Pointing out that it isn't 100% perfect missed the point: it just needs to be better than humans.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,630
@previous (K)
If a broke and war-torn country like Japan can build a profitable form of transportation that kills nobody, then why can't Waymo do the same thing?
If a broke and war-torn country like Japan can build a profitable form of transportation that kills nobody, then why can't Waymo do the same thing?
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,646
@previous (N)
> If a broke and war-torn country like Japan can build a profitable form of transportation that kills nobody, then why can't Waymo do the same thing?
What decade is it? That was 80 years ago. The only reason why Japan was successful is because the United States spent billions of dollars rebuilding Japan because they wanted an ally in the east during the Cold War to oppose communism. Japan has terrible demographics, they have low immigration, Asians don’t like the Japanese because of what the Japanese did in the Second World War, so even if the Japanese wanted immigrants they probably wouldn’t get them, their economy is stagnating, they’ve gone from the second largest economy to falling behind China and Germany, and with basically zero GDP growth, they’re basically guaranteed to fall behind India next.
> If a broke and war-torn country like Japan can build a profitable form of transportation that kills nobody, then why can't Waymo do the same thing?
What decade is it? That was 80 years ago. The only reason why Japan was successful is because the United States spent billions of dollars rebuilding Japan because they wanted an ally in the east during the Cold War to oppose communism. Japan has terrible demographics, they have low immigration, Asians don’t like the Japanese because of what the Japanese did in the Second World War, so even if the Japanese wanted immigrants they probably wouldn’t get them, their economy is stagnating, they’ve gone from the second largest economy to falling behind China and Germany, and with basically zero GDP growth, they’re basically guaranteed to fall behind India next.
Anonymous P double-posted this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,647
And by next I mean, India has a 3.9 trillion dollar GDP, Japan has a 4 trillion dollar GDP, India grows at 7% every year, Japan grows by 0.1% every year, it will probably happen literally next year. They’re a declining civilization, and the west is next.
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Anonymous K replied with this 3 months ago, 35 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,653
https://www.1x.tech/order
You can order a humanoid robot now, deliveries start next year.
$20k to own it, and it can work longer days than a person, for many years, for less than a minimum wage employee costs for one year.
You can order a humanoid robot now, deliveries start next year.
$20k to own it, and it can work longer days than a person, for many years, for less than a minimum wage employee costs for one year.
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Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,790
AI slop is blacked
https://x/Zimalarey
https://x/Zimalarey
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,398,823
When is the Hyperloop opening?
