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Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,147
Africa is a problem then because Sapiens are an invasive species which are causing huge destruction to local ecosystems, displacing native wildlife and causing global environmental degradation through a massive overpopulation.
DarkDude joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,167
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Nigeria has about 200 million people and produces about 122 million tones of CO2 emissions, the United States produces 4.8 billion tonnes of CO2 emissions per year with a population of about 300 million people.
African countries actually contribute far less to environmental distraction and pollution than western countries do because Africans ironically use their land more efficiently (not the economic definition of efficiency) since they’re underdeveloped. For example, 60% of the world’s unused arable land is in Africa, even though they have 1.5 billion people. In the United States and Europe, virtually every plot of land is used for farming even though they have smaller populations.
DarkDude double-posted this 3 months ago, 28 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,168
Which is also ironic since Nigeria’s economy is basically completely dependent on oil exports. The downside of that being that the oil industry doesn’t really need that many workers so the wealth doesn’t really get redistributed to benefit the larger economy, and the price of oil is highly unstable.
DarkDude triple-posted this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,169
Basically: the US, Europe, and China pollute the most, and Africa isn’t really a big deal as far as climate change goes. The amount a country pollutes correlates more with the size of its economy than it does with the size of its population. For example, India pollutes less CO2 than the US despite being 4x larger in terms of population.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 24 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,174
Most African countries have been independent for about 60 years. I don’t understand why the West thinks they can airdrop institutions that took hundreds of years to form. More so when the former colonial powers like France kept most of the old economic relationships in place to favor export heavy activity, which occurs on the lower portion of the value stream than finished goods.
Dark joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 6 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,194
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Honestly, I don’t feel too worried about Africa in the long term. Russia and China are trying to gain influence in Africa because they recognize that there’s a lot of potential for growth given their demographics. China’s population will definitely decline in the future. The United States will only decline if we stop accepting immigrants (immigrants are actually currently the only reason the United States isn’t on the same trajectory of economic stagnation as Japan right now).
If you actually think about it, the reason why Russia backs far right anti immigrant politics in Europe and also supplies mercenaries to African countries to prop up pro Russian governments, it’s not contradictory. Their goal is to weaken Europe and strengthen Russia and they’re taking a bet on Africa’s future growth. The same is true with China only China mostly does infrastructure stuff.
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 months ago, 9 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,196
Like, Russia literally funds far right groups that advocate for defunding science, cutting western foreign aid to Africa, and makes bot farms that troll about how Africans are inferior and don’t have any technology to make right wing politics more popular in the west, and they’re building nuclear power plants in African countries at the same time. They’re not doing that because they’re stupid.
DarkDude triple-posted this 3 months ago, 45 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,198
People tend to look down on Africa, but there are actually some positive signs for future growth. Urbanization in Africa has been happening faster than it did in Europe.
For example, Lagos Nigeria had less than a million people in the 1950s, and estimates of the current metro population range from 17 to 20 million people in 2025.
DarkDude quadruple-posted this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,397,199
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(The Y axis on the NYC graph doesn’t start at zero, the growth of NYC is less dramatic than it looks if you actually look at the number).