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Topic: What is the best car one can get for under $23,000?

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q started this discussion 15 years ago #12,991

Used, new, I don't care.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later[^] [v] #233,976

A college education and a bicycle.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,978

chevy empala

sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,981

What are you looking for? I'd get a Prius, cause gas sucks dick.

Falco !PZmcClOUDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,982

Prius.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,983

Definitely not new. But to answer your question, I need more info first: What are you looking for? The fastest? Most luxurious? Least expensive to maintain?

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,984

@233,981 (sluggy)
I'm thinking of getting this car: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=303794140
What do you think?

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,985

@233,983 (F)
I'd like fast AND luxury. I'm looking into buying an M-series BMW but am WILLING to go with other suggestions.

Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,988

@previous (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
If you can afford the mark-up on imported parts, sure.

sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,989

@233,984 (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
I don't know dick about cars, but that gets my pussy wet.

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,992

@233,988 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
I'll be able to afford them when I get a job after driving to North Dakota.

Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #233,999

@233,985 (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)

Then a BMW is great for you. Although a Z4 isn't really luxurious at all. You'd love a BMW 540i/545i/550i. It's a very nice sedan with a surprisingly quick V8 engine. I used to have a 540i and it was quicker than a C4 Corvette and a Cobra Mustang, but you'd never know it by how smooth the ride was.

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #234,002

@previous (F)
Would this be better?
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=300293750

dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #234,005

fiat punto evo

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #234,006

I know it's not luxurious but is it any good? http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=307888913

dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #234,035

@previous (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
see
@234,005 (dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46)

bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #234,042

You can proably find one with really nice painted calipers for that kinda money.

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #234,044

@previous (bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
Isn't it dangerous to drive with painted calipers? I hear they could fail and cause an auto accident, which is something I don't want to ever happen to my precious future BMW.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #234,047

I wouldnt buy a manual car with 90k+ miles... fucking broken clutch and the rest. Seriously mate get a 30-40k mileage max.

Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,120

@234,044 (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
To answer your questions: Painted calipers aren't dangerous. The M5 is a nice car if you want to spend that kind of money. If you're looking for more of a daily driver I'd get a 540i from the same generation. The engines aren't meant to be as high-strung and so they usually last longer. If you get an E39, though, make sure to have the cooling system serviced at 100k. It's not in the recommended maintenance schedule, but do it anyway. It should cost around $1000-$1500 at a decent independent shop. If there are no records of having the cooling system serviced and it's above 100k, assume it hasn't been serviced and do it propmtly. The reason for this is that each car has some design flaws. And these cars tend to have their design flaws in the cooling system, necessitating some preventive maintenance. The good news is that if you do that preventive maintenance the car's cooling system will be just as reliable as any other car's.

I can't say anything about the Challenger. Totally not my style and surprising to compare to a 5-series BMW. But if you like it I'm definitely not going to hate.

@previous (J)
Your advice is a little backward. It's automatic cars that begin to have trouble above that mileage. Clutch packs wearing out in an automatic is much worse than a clutch wearing out on a manual.

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,134

Your first car shouldn't cost more than five grand... but whatever.

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,141

@234,120 (F)
Thank you! Are the 540i cars as luxurious as the M5?

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,154

@234,134 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I know, but I'd like to get a head-start in life.

bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,156

@234,134 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Lol this.

Don't forget that you'll need periodic (probably yearly or more) maintenance on a used car. You need to factor in future repairs into the price.

If you spend all your money on the car then you can't afford to drive it for terribly long. Since you'll be a new driver you'll probably rag it out and/or wreck it within 2 years.

Tl;dr get a beater, learn how not to ruin a car by ruining your first car (because you will anyway.) every little kid wants a bad ass car, sure, but all you'll really get it assloads of expenses and frustration.

Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,169

@234,141 (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
They are exactly the same car. The M5 is just a version of the E39 chassis, and so is the 540i. Make sure you get a 540i 6-speed though.

And I have to agree with the people saying not to spend a lot of money on a first car. It's supposed to get you around, nothing more, nothing less. An expensive car isn't smart to use to learn how to have a car on, so to say.

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,174

@234,156 (bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
@previous (F)
I guess I'll have to get a cheap-ass car like this: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=303848223
Perhaps I could use the rest of the money to get a cheap home like this: http://www.remax.com/property/94290265-60110504/322-Langer-S-Ave-Casselton-ND-58012/
EDIT: the house is a pre-auction bit bullshit. Fuck that.

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Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,178

@previous (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Think long-term, bud. Get a reliable gas-saver. All older people say that for a reason, heed good advice. =D

Why are you house shopping? You got cash to spend?

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,179

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I've got myself a college fund that is just waiting to be withdrawn.

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bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,183

@previous (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Ah, yeah, good idea. Buy a car with it, that's what i'd do.

Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,191

@234,174 (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Nah, you don't have to get a cheap car like that. Get a reliable gas saver. The Camaro is neither of those. Think along the lines of simple used family car that was owned by the husband of a soccer mom and now he wants to get rid of it cheaply because the next Camry is ready for purchase. It will get you from A to B easily, conveniently, and cheaply. And use your college money for college. If you're so worried about having money and showing it, a college degree is basically a necessity.

Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,199

@234,179 (ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Use it for an out of state college??

bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,203

@234,191 (F)
yup. Just set a reasonable budget, 5k will get you a nice and reliable car that won't be impossible to afford maintenance on. You can likely find a car that is 3-5 years old that is totally in that range. It'll get you to a job, or to school, and eventually you'll work your way up to that brand new car of whatever make and model you want.

It's the American Dream. blowing your college savings on a thing that won't last 10 years is just stupid

ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,237

@234,191 (F)
Ugh... Will I have to resort to having some POS Toyota? Maybe I can get an MR2 which is cheap AND efficient!
@234,199 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Nah. I'll move to the state so I can have a $7k tuition rate instead of $17k.

Nickalollyoff !Aw0s40dyqw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,246

LOL I spent £800 on my car.

Now it needs new brakes, tyres, exhaust shield and road tax.

lol goodbye another £800.

Still, wear and tear, when I can afford to fix the cunt, it will still be a bargain.

I love Jap cars.

Nickalollyoff !Aw0s40dyqw double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,248

@previous (Nickalollyoff !Aw0s40dyqw)
Ajd yes all the problems are just wear and tear. Shit happens. Just a shame it's a 1.8l engine so the road tax is like £250 a year.

Beats riding a fucking bike though.

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,311

@previous (Nickalollyoff !Aw0s40dyqw)
> road tax
> tv tax
ive said it before, but still, lolbritain

Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 56 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,324

@previous (N)
this

❍ᴥ❍ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #234,340

@233,999 (F)

> Then a BMW is great for you. Although a Z4 isn't really luxurious at all. You'd love a BMW 540i/545i/550i. It's a very nice sedan with a surprisingly quick V8 engine. I used to have a 540i and it was quicker than a C4 Corvette and a Cobra Mustang, but you'd never know it by how smooth the ride was.

> 550i
Aww yee!
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