Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 50 minutes later[^][v]#1,395,147
Do you know what happens when a country passes 125% debt-to-GDP ratio?
Default, insolvency, and then mass suffering.
We're beyond the point where this can be saved, it's about pulling blood from the extremities so that the essential organs of the nation have a chance at surviving.
A blackity black double-posted this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,395,150
I’m just saying, I haven’t heard anyone scared that Nigeria is going to run out of money and collapse in a while. How much money do they have? Not much.
No, the material world won't just change because you want it to.
The US has more debt than everything it makes in a year, and rates are up. This is the point economists usually point to where insolvency becomes a serious risk.
What's your solution? What magic money trick do you think will produce wealth out of thin air?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,163
@1,395,158 (B)
Wrong. The world's richest people have trillions among them. Plenty of money to help special needs kids and hungry people. Go lick some more boots, fascist.
> Wrong. The world's richest people have trillions among them. Plenty of money to help special needs kids and hungry people. Go lick some more boots, fascist.
They actually have more money than some countries do. For example, Elon Musk’s net worth is more than the GDP of Nigeria, and Nigeria has 200 million people.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,169
@1,395,164 (A blackity black)
And if you take the leftist ideology seriously, we wouldn't just be splitting the money up among priveleged white americans.
Guess how far this all goes when we cut in everyone? Suddenly it doesn't even fund social welfare for a year.
And even if we started by helping the needy in the US, how does that work when the same half believe that anyone, anywhere, is allowed to show up here illegally and use those services just the same as citizens? And when they will show up to protest law enforcement deporting the people?
It just keeps getting diluted, and then all you've done is resentfully destroyed a small group of wealthy people for no material gain to anyone.
A blackity black double-posted this 3 months ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,172
Like if you google the average world GDP per capita, you google China’s GDP per capita, the entire planet could have the same standard of living as China in theory.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,173
@1,395,166 (B)
If the US government can pay huge amounts or money to corporate welfare, we can afford a tiny bit to help the needy, so fuck off, fascist.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,177
@previous (B)
Tax subsidies and bailouts for corporations, and Republican tax loopholes than only corporations and the wealthy can use, like being able to write off private yachts.
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,178
@1,395,176 (B)
Well, Elon Musk gets billions of dollars from the government. SpaceX isn’t actually profitable without a customer and there’s only one customer that’s actually wealthy enough to make it profitable (the government).
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,179
@1,395,174 (A blackity black)
I didn't claim that, but putting words in my mouth is a good way to avoid the point I actually made: confiscating all of that wealth wouldn't actually fix this problem. especially if you're as inclusive as the left wants to be
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,182
@1,395,179 (B)
You know, every country in the world has less money than the United States and there are plenty of countries that offer more socialized services to their citizens than we do. It’s kind of difficult for me to believe you when there’s proof via existence that you’re wrong.
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,185
@1,395,181 (B)
It’s not necessarily wise to defund NASA a government agency, in favor of a corporation that isn’t owned by the government. Now the military depends on Musk and Musk depends on the military.
> It’s not necessarily wise to defund NASA a government agency, in favor of a corporation that isn’t owned by the government. Now the military depends on Musk and Musk depends on the military.
Irrelevant if the entire spending on SpaceX doesnt come close to solvingthe budget.
A blackity black double-posted this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,194
I’m just saying, if somebody actually attacked Germany, they’d probably increase military spending, but the last country that dropped bombs on Germany is us, that’s why we have bases there.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,196
@1,395,193 (A blackity black)
Do you understand why Germany has been discussing, and recently increased their defense spending?
Politicians there are expressing concern about Russia.
The US operates a lot of bases in Germany, and that alone contributes a great deal to their economy.
If the US pulled out they would lose the inflow of money, and need to start spending even more to deter threats.
Germany has a per-person GDP thats 60% of the US. They wouldn't have free college anymore if the US turned off the money. And even now Germany has a lot of travellers who fly to the US for an expensive education rather than get the free option at home.
Anonymous B double-posted this 3 months ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,197
@1,395,194 (A blackity black)
Russia was also the last country to drop bombs on Germany, and the politicians there are worried about that repeating not the US attacking.
A blackity black triple-posted this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,395,200
The point is, in World War Two, Germany tried to become a world power, that ship has sailed, the only question is were they going to be led by an authoritarian or democratic power after the fact. Not sure what that has to do with college tuition though.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,213
@1,395,211 (A blackity black)
Russia colonized Alaska at one point, and they arent the only country that has discovered ships. English and French settlers didnt just materialize there either.
It's a global world, and the northern passage is strategic.
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,217
@previous (B)
Do we though? Why would anyone attack Canada if the United States didn’t exist? How many countries actually seriously want to see the downfall of Canada?
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,219
@previous (B)
I don’t really see why anyone would be interested in invading Canada, it’s a huge country that’s relatively underpopulated relative to its size that’s an ocean away from most of the world’s landmass. It seems like a lot of trouble for a small amount of benefit.
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,225
All I’m saying is, if the US didn’t exist, and hypothetically, I was the president of Russia, and I wanted to sail a ship through Canada, I’d offer to pay Canada, if Canada refused, I’d just say, well I have 5,000 nuclear weapons, I’m gonna sail on through and pay you a price I made up and tell you thank you for renting the passage to me.
Except Canada can point to certain wordings in maritime law, and that will be enforced by the most powerul navy in the world.
American taxpayers labor and die, without a gurantee that they will get healthcare, so that entitled Canuks can be snobs on campus without paying for the resources they use.
> All I’m saying is, if the US didn’t exist, and hypothetically, I was the president of Russia, and I wanted to sail a ship through Canada, I’d offer to pay Canada, if Canada refused, I’d just say, well I have 5,000 nuclear weapons, I’m gonna sail on through and pay you a price I made up and tell you thank you for renting the passage to me.
Russia decided they wouldnt do that because of MAD.
Do you know who specifically mutually assures destruction with Russia in MAD?
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 27 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,228
@1,395,226 (B)
Right but like I wouldn’t try and overthrow Ottawa or anything because what would be the point in trying to rule over like 40 million people on the other side of the world who don’t like me?
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,231
@1,395,228 (A blackity black)
They don't need to conquer Ottowa to sail through the sea without paying Canada.
Does Canada need to spend the money to build up a powerful Navy? No, the US pays for the defense of their seas. The passage will be protected at the expense of the American public, and the fees will be collected by spoiled Canadians.
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,233
I guess the only thing that doesn’t make sense to me about the northern passage argument is why would Russia want to fight a war over a passage it could use to get access to the Pacific Ocean from Europe when Russia already has a land border with China and a Pacific coast?
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 36 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,235
Like I can see why Europe would want it so they can trade with China if the US closed the Panama Canal, but Europe is friendly with Canada anyway. But I don’t see why Russia would need ships to access China when they can just do that anyway over land.
So there’s a benefit to going to war with Canada if it’s more fuel efficient, but there’s also a cost of going to war with a country of 40 million people who have no cultural connection to you on the opposite side of the world. So I’m not sure that, if you’re Russia, a country of 100 million people with a low birth rate and aging population that that’s a good decision to make.
A blackity black triple-posted this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,237
Especially when Panama is so much smaller. And if the US was out of the picture, it does seem like overthrowing the government in Panama would be much less expensive to pull off.
A blackity black replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,242
Tbh I don’t really buy the argument that without the US countries will just invade each other. What about Africa? Most African countries aren’t allied with the US but nobody is trying to conquer Africa.
A blackity black joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,247
@previous (B)
Right but like, if the argument is that you need one democracy to be super powerful to stop other countries from taking over the world, how come in Africa where no African countries have nuclear weapons, and quite a few African countries have authoritarian governments, there’s no country in Africa that’s trying to be like Russia and take over all the other African countries?
> Do you know what happens when a country passes 125% debt-to-GDP ratio? > > Default, insolvency, and then mass suffering. > > We're beyond the point where this can be saved, it's about pulling blood from the extremities so that the essential organs of the nation have a chance at surviving.
You make a good point but you’re rationalizing the actions of a corrupt and inept oligarchy with your higher intelligence.
A blackity black double-posted this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,395,274
It feels sort of like one dimensional thinking, where everything in the world is simple. America spends money and fights all wars on behalf of everyone and every single country in the world should be thankful they have free healthcare because we’re paying for the defense of all African countries or whatever. I mean, that’s obviously not true. Remember last year when the DRC sentenced three American citizens to death before that whole thing where Rwanda sent troops into the DRC and then Trump took credit for ending the war?
There’s no way that the United States actually took the side of a country that sentenced American citizens to death and defended that country from Rwanda.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 13 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,395,390
@1,395,274 (A blackity black)
The US isn't going to base its foreign policy on publicly defending mercs who plotted to overthrow the DRC government. If they really did contract them, they will have no reason to confirm it, its easier to write off the casualties.