Topic: invading Portland, Orgegon is like if the wizard invaded Munchkinland
boof started this discussion 3 months ago #129,741
like so(Edited 23 seconds later.)
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #1,394,460
Federal law trumps municipal
MGWA joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,394,462
Make Genocide White Again!
Lady D !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,394,597
boof (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 20 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,394,684
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 3 days later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,086
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 21 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,243
One group is in Portland illegally. 🇲🇽🥴
The other is working legally. 👮🛃
The other is working legally. 👮🛃
boof (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,245
one stick is up your ass
oh, it looks like the other stick is also up your ass
oh, it looks like the other stick is also up your ass
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 1 day later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,460
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,464
@1,395,245 (boof)
im laying down eating popcorn watching criminals get arrested on my screen.
your kind are screaming in the streets dressed up like demons so that corporations can use desperate slaves to push down wages and put more strain on housing so landlords get rich.
im laying down eating popcorn watching criminals get arrested on my screen.
your kind are screaming in the streets dressed up like demons so that corporations can use desperate slaves to push down wages and put more strain on housing so landlords get rich.
boof (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,468
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,469
@1,395,460 (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
Federal immigration laws, passed by congress. You can't just pass an municipal ordinance to override them. It's also true that states have no right to make their own immigration policies, that's all set by congress in DC.
For a specific statute that can be cited in charges against insurrectionist mayors and councils I'd say 8 U.S. Code § 1373 which prohibits local governments from restricting communication with federal immigration authorities regarding an individual’s citizenship or immigration status. There are staff at the white house who have already said that federal funds can be withheld when local police don't comply with federal agents, and that when the declarations are made by the city it is enough to invoke the insurrection act.
Federal immigration laws, passed by congress. You can't just pass an municipal ordinance to override them. It's also true that states have no right to make their own immigration policies, that's all set by congress in DC.
For a specific statute that can be cited in charges against insurrectionist mayors and councils I'd say 8 U.S. Code § 1373 which prohibits local governments from restricting communication with federal immigration authorities regarding an individual’s citizenship or immigration status. There are staff at the white house who have already said that federal funds can be withheld when local police don't comply with federal agents, and that when the declarations are made by the city it is enough to invoke the insurrection act.
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Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,525
@previous (B)
Oregon law prohibits assisting state and local law enforcement from assisting federal enforcement agencies, I don't believe information about federal immigration status is being blocked.
Whitehouse staff who are former podcasters can say what they want about federal funding that wasn't what I was asking about so it doesn't really matter. what kind of declarations are actually being made that pass the threshold of invoking the insurrection act?
Oregon law prohibits assisting state and local law enforcement from assisting federal enforcement agencies, I don't believe information about federal immigration status is being blocked.
Whitehouse staff who are former podcasters can say what they want about federal funding that wasn't what I was asking about so it doesn't really matter. what kind of declarations are actually being made that pass the threshold of invoking the insurrection act?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,542
@previous (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
> Oregon law prohibits assisting state and local law enforcement from assisting federal enforcement agencies
Aiding and abetting federal crimes isn't legal just because of a state law, that's what the supremacy clause means.
> Oregon law prohibits assisting state and local law enforcement from assisting federal enforcement agencies
Aiding and abetting federal crimes isn't legal just because of a state law, that's what the supremacy clause means.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 11 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,624
@1,395,525 (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
They are blocking information, they are required to tell ICE when they have an illegal. Instead they've been assisting them in evading law enforcement, some sanctuary cities have had judges sneaking them out back doors to sneak past federal law enforcement.
Just as it's illegal for a civilian to hide a fugitive, police that obstruct justice are also breaking the law.
They are blocking information, they are required to tell ICE when they have an illegal. Instead they've been assisting them in evading law enforcement, some sanctuary cities have had judges sneaking them out back doors to sneak past federal law enforcement.
Just as it's illegal for a civilian to hide a fugitive, police that obstruct justice are also breaking the law.
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,701
@1,395,542 (E)
Source supporting the claim that local law enforcement is aiding and abetting criminals?
@previous (B)
Please provide sources?
Anyways, all of the "legality" of it is kinda moot from the moral standpoint. It was totally "legal" for German forces to go around rounding up specific types offolk, it was totally legal to own people, and it's apparently totally legal for Israel to bomb the shit out of children at the smallest provocation.
Source supporting the claim that local law enforcement is aiding and abetting criminals?
@previous (B)
Please provide sources?
Anyways, all of the "legality" of it is kinda moot from the moral standpoint. It was totally "legal" for German forces to go around rounding up specific types offolk, it was totally legal to own people, and it's apparently totally legal for Israel to bomb the shit out of children at the smallest provocation.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,704
@previous (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
The Germans rounded up their own citizens and killed them, and Israel went into their neighbors territory to kill.
Arresting and deporting a noncitizen who broke the law back to their own country isn't comparable.
The Germans rounded up their own citizens and killed them, and Israel went into their neighbors territory to kill.
Arresting and deporting a noncitizen who broke the law back to their own country isn't comparable.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 months ago, 14 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,395,817
@1,395,701 (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
When everyone ignores the law and makes up their own rules you don't have a society.
When everyone ignores the law and makes up their own rules you don't have a society.
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 2 days later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,182
@1,395,704 (E)
@previous (B)
Sorry I didn't make up the rules, non citizens are still covered under the constitution, so things like due process still apply.
@previous (B)
Sorry I didn't make up the rules, non citizens are still covered under the constitution, so things like due process still apply.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 50 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,184
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,186
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,212
@previous (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
You compared deporting people here illegally with the Nazis imprisoning law abiding citizens.
You compared deporting people here illegally with the Nazis imprisoning law abiding citizens.
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,259
@previous (E)
I compared the current example of what's happening to a past example of what has happened, yes.
Deploying federal troops that aren't ICE to towns with blue mayors is simply deporting people here illegally?
A side question, did you have opinions on operation Jade Helm?
I compared the current example of what's happening to a past example of what has happened, yes.
Deploying federal troops that aren't ICE to towns with blue mayors is simply deporting people here illegally?
A side question, did you have opinions on operation Jade Helm?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 23 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,492
@previous (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
That's their mission, yes. You can't have ICE do it alone when insurrectionists are forming mobs to attack federal officers.
That's their mission, yes. You can't have ICE do it alone when insurrectionists are forming mobs to attack federal officers.
DarkDude joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 53 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,503
@previous (E)
> That's their mission, yes. You can't have ICE do it alone when insurrectionists are forming mobs to attack federal officers.
Brain rot
> That's their mission, yes. You can't have ICE do it alone when insurrectionists are forming mobs to attack federal officers.
Brain rot
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,567
@1,396,492 (E)
That's not their mission, no. They can not legally carry out ICE tasks, although, they would be more apt to the task humanely and with restraint given the more adequate training they are required to go through.
That's not their mission, no. They can not legally carry out ICE tasks, although, they would be more apt to the task humanely and with restraint given the more adequate training they are required to go through.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,396,571
@previous (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
They can legally assist ICE so that ICE can do their job. That is their mission, as set by their commander-in-chief
They can legally assist ICE so that ICE can do their job. That is their mission, as set by their commander-in-chief