Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 day later[^][v]#234,942
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hamfist !!snnYcROO9 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#234,967
He's not senile
He doesn't believe the founding fucktards (lolololol) wanted America to be a "robustly Christian nation"
He doesn't have a crazy "REVOLUTION" campaign
He doesn't want to go back to the gold standard
Just an all-around better guy
RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#234,970
I lived in New Mexico for all 8 years of Johnson's governorship, so I think I'm qualified to answer this.
> What do you view as the differences between Gary Johnson and Ron Paul?
Gary Johnson is younger and more idealistic, and he actually has 8 years of experience holding the highest office in a state government, as opposed to just being a member of the legislature. He is also much more liberal on social issues.
> Which of these differences do you think makes him superior to Ron Paul?
The age and idealism are a given. Being younger, he's more in touch and connected to the people. His experience as a top official in a government, as well as his social policies (specifically pertaining to drugs and abortion) make him a lot better than Ron Paul. Paul is a bigger name because he has campaigned on a national level much harder that Johnson, but I will say this. I have actually had the privilege of speaking to Gary Johnson in person and asking him questions pertaining to my life. He is well-spoken, straight forward, and really cool. It's plainly obvious that he has no ties to lobbies or special interests. Now for some trivia about Johnson...
He was a very successful local businessman before he got into politics.
When he left office, New Mexico had a balanced budget.
He has summited Mt. Everest.
He regularly contends in the Ironman Triathlon.
Sorry if that's kinda tl;dr, but I figure that someone who has actually been a subject of his government could give you some good info.
This is all irrelevant, though, because he has no chance of winning the nomination. If it came down to an election between Obama and Romney, and Johnson ran third party, I would vote for him
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hamfist !!snnYcROO9 replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#234,974
@previous (RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw)
Yeah, I have no doubt he's not going to make it, but it's one less vote for Obama, Romney, or Cain even, who knows?
Unless the Democrats have a secret weapon they're ready to unleash
Seth McFarlane 2012
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Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#235,001
I think Obama has the election in the bag. I don't think Romney or Cain could beat him. Perry looked like a good GOP candidate until he showed up at a debate.
I'll probably end up voting for Obama again, grudgingly, but I don't expect anything out of him this time around. Fuck it. My line of work that I'm in right now (inspecting and maintaining foreclosed and shortsale houses for Wells Fargo and GMAC) thrives on a shitty economy, so I'm good either way.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#235,020
@234,967 (hamfist !!snnYcROO9) > He's not senile
Ron Paul is not senile. > He doesn't believe the founding fucktards (lolololol) wanted America to be a "robustly Christian nation"
Read the writings of the founders, and look at what they did in their respective home states. They did want this - whether this should guide our actions is another matter. > He doesn't have a crazy "REVOLUTION" campaign
He doesn't have any campaign, > He doesn't want to go back to the gold standard
Finally a legitimate issue. > Just an all-around better guy
lolfag
So your entire antipathy to Ron Paul is from his opposition to central banking?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#235,025
> Gary Johnson is younger
What do you see as the benefit of being younger? The president is not an athlete. His job is to sign documents. Don't need to be an ironman to do that, even if there is an Everest of paperwork (lol @ my funny jokes).
> and more idealistic,
Actually, he is less idealistic. He says this himself. He claims not to act out of any ideology other than a cost-benefit analysis. Ron Paul acts out of a consistent philosophy of constitutional republicanism.
> and he actually has 8 years of experience holding the highest office in a state government, as opposed to just being a member of the legislature.
One could also say that he has no experience at the federal level, whereas Ron Paul has many decades. Serious objections only please lol.
> He is also much more liberal on social issues.
lolno. What social issues is GJ more liberal than RP?
> The age and idealism are a given.
Age is not a given (I can't understand it at all, actually) and GJ is less idealistic than Ron Paul (for better or worse).
> Being younger, he's more in touch and connected to the people.
lolno. srs replies only plz!
> His experience as a top official in a government,
RP has this experience too. This would be a good argument in a, say, why is GJ better than Herman Cain thread, but a poor one here.
> as well as his social policies (specifically pertaining to drugs and abortion)
Ron Paul advocates ending the War on Drugs, and leaving abortion to the states.
> It's plainly obvious that he has no ties to lobbies or special interests.
Same with Ron Paul. Keep in mind I'm not trying to say RP is better than GJ, this thread is made for a troll who says RP is the devil and GJ is a hero. I contest that they are very similar.
> He was a very successful local businessman before he got into politics.
RP too.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#235,027
Hmm okay. All good points. Honestly I'm not educated enough on the details of Ron Paul's experience and policies.
All bullshitting aside, I'm just partial to Johnson because I lived in New Mexico the entire time he was governor, and he did a fine job. I've certainly never been to whatever congressional district in Texas Paul is from.
As for voting for Obama, well, I'm not gonna fucking vote for Romney, or Herman Cain, or any republican besides Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. If it's a close election, I'll vote for Obama because I still hold some hope for him getting shit done, and a completely new administration will ensure 4 more years of stagnation. If Obama will win in a landslide then I'll vote 3rd party so as to not be a complete fucking whore.
I know that the electoral votes are what really matter, but I don't know.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#235,080
@previous (C)
I think RP and GJ are both great candidates! I'd love them to be Pres and VP (in any order lol). I just don't understand hamfist can hate one and love the other when their only difference appears (I haven't checked to confirm this) to be about central banking.