Topic: fundamentally whats the trump administration's endgame?
Anonymous A started this discussion 4 months ago #129,286
Including MAGA.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #1,391,922
Trump's endgame is to be a dictator and avoid prison. MAGA don't have an endgame. They're just hateful and really stupid. They will believe anything Trump says.
boof joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 9 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,923
oh there's always another salted peanut to eat, certainly if it's been a whole day since the last one
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 5 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,928
Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 20 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,929
He’s a year older than the US life expectancy.
Dunno
Dunno
Anonymous E double-posted this 4 months ago, 31 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,930
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 5 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,931
@previous (E)
Same as anything, until he's gone. It's like when your crazy uncle dies, you don't copy all of his manifestos to distribute, you take his dirty van with schizo screed down to the metal yard and take your $200. Everyone moves on!
Same as anything, until he's gone. It's like when your crazy uncle dies, you don't copy all of his manifestos to distribute, you take his dirty van with schizo screed down to the metal yard and take your $200. Everyone moves on!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 56 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,943
@1,391,928 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
hmm. so whats your take on that gavin newsom fellow? do you think that other side would have their own version of tom cotton if at all?
> Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
hmm. so whats your take on that gavin newsom fellow? do you think that other side would have their own version of tom cotton if at all?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,945
@1,391,928 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this.
This guy makes an interesting point about that:
https://youtu.be/mqjoQOpeAec
> Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this.
This guy makes an interesting point about that:
https://youtu.be/mqjoQOpeAec
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 21 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,947
@previous (G)
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this.
>
> This guy makes an interesting point about that:
>
> https://youtu.be/mqjoQOpeAec
I agree. that was pretty much the vibe from the whole situation. I honestly had no idea who he was. mind you the 11th is my dad's birthday. so when I woke up to wish him happy birthday decided to read the news and pretty much learned about some right wing podcast bro in a span of a week and a half. the whole thing is bizarre. It just feels like a very cultish attempt at mass brainwash and if you defy it they'll send a bunch of agent smiths after you.
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this.
>
> This guy makes an interesting point about that:
>
> https://youtu.be/mqjoQOpeAec
I agree. that was pretty much the vibe from the whole situation. I honestly had no idea who he was. mind you the 11th is my dad's birthday. so when I woke up to wish him happy birthday decided to read the news and pretty much learned about some right wing podcast bro in a span of a week and a half. the whole thing is bizarre. It just feels like a very cultish attempt at mass brainwash and if you defy it they'll send a bunch of agent smiths after you.
Meta joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,950
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 44 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,951
@1,391,947 (A)
I’m a chronically online 20 something so I knew who he was since for some reason the YouTube algorithm spams anti minority right wing content at me even though I’m a minority that’s not right wing. So I knew who he was. Still I can think of maybe 4 or 5 right wing internet people who were more popular on YouTube than he was: Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, Bret Cooper, Matt Walsh, Tucker Carlson, Tyler Olivera, etc.
I’m a chronically online 20 something so I knew who he was since for some reason the YouTube algorithm spams anti minority right wing content at me even though I’m a minority that’s not right wing. So I knew who he was. Still I can think of maybe 4 or 5 right wing internet people who were more popular on YouTube than he was: Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, Bret Cooper, Matt Walsh, Tucker Carlson, Tyler Olivera, etc.
Anonymous I double-posted this 4 months ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,952
I feel like he peaked during Covid I just stopped getting him recommended maybe 2 or 3 years ago.
Anonymous I triple-posted this 4 months ago, 19 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,953
Tbh some of the propaganda is lowkey disturbing. Like someone might have a video that claims to be about economics but then it blames the poverty of Africa on African culture instead of on actual economic principles and then in the comments people are glorifying apartheid and saying blacks are the worst race in the world.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 55 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,959
@1,391,928 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
I think the movement is in total shambles once Trump dies unless one of his kids takes the mantle. It’s a total cult of personality.
> Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
I think the movement is in total shambles once Trump dies unless one of his kids takes the mantle. It’s a total cult of personality.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 4 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,995
@previous (J)
> unless one of his kids takes the mantle
No offense but Baron is autistic, conservative men only like Ivanka because she has big boobs, Tiffany is a dumb blonde, Donald Trump Jr. is a discount Chinese knockoff version of his father, and Eric Trump’s personality is being his father’s son.
https://youtu.be/9Deg7VrpHbM
> unless one of his kids takes the mantle
No offense but Baron is autistic, conservative men only like Ivanka because she has big boobs, Tiffany is a dumb blonde, Donald Trump Jr. is a discount Chinese knockoff version of his father, and Eric Trump’s personality is being his father’s son.
https://youtu.be/9Deg7VrpHbM
Anonymous K double-posted this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,996
@previous (K)
If you tell conservative men that Ivanka is a Jew they’ll say no way, and then proceed to explain why a woman having big boobs makes her Nordic.
If you tell conservative men that Ivanka is a Jew they’ll say no way, and then proceed to explain why a woman having big boobs makes her Nordic.
Anonymous B replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,997
Anonymous K replied with this 4 months ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,998
@previous (B)
I tried reading his Wikipedia page to find what he’s known for, I kept seeing the word "Donald" so I did a control F search and found his dad is mentioned 28 times.
I tried reading his Wikipedia page to find what he’s known for, I kept seeing the word "Donald" so I did a control F search and found his dad is mentioned 28 times.
Anonymous K double-posted this 4 months ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,391,999
His wife is only mentioned 7 times.
boof replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,392,025
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 9 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,392,058
@1,391,951 (I)
> I’m a chronically online 20 something so I knew who he was since for some reason the YouTube algorithm spams anti minority right wing content at me even though I’m a minority that’s not right wing. So I knew who he was. Still I can think of maybe 4 or 5 right wing internet people who were more popular on YouTube than he was: Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, Bret Cooper, Matt Walsh, Tucker Carlson, Tyler Olivera, etc.
I he@1,391,943 (A)
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
>
> hmm. so whats your take on that gavin newsom fellow? do you think that other side would have their own version of tom cotton if at all?
guess it was one of those "stupid questions" that people tend to lie about when they say "theres no such thing as a stupid question"
> I’m a chronically online 20 something so I knew who he was since for some reason the YouTube algorithm spams anti minority right wing content at me even though I’m a minority that’s not right wing. So I knew who he was. Still I can think of maybe 4 or 5 right wing internet people who were more popular on YouTube than he was: Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, Bret Cooper, Matt Walsh, Tucker Carlson, Tyler Olivera, etc.
I he@1,391,943 (A)
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
>
> hmm. so whats your take on that gavin newsom fellow? do you think that other side would have their own version of tom cotton if at all?
guess it was one of those "stupid questions" that people tend to lie about when they say "theres no such thing as a stupid question"
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 4 months ago, 3 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,392,078
@1,391,959 (J)
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
>
> I think the movement is in total shambles once Trump dies unless one of his kids takes the mantle. It’s a total cult of personality.
I disagree. Trump didn't create the MAGA wave, he just opportunistically chose to ride it. The circumstances that created the movement existed before him. 10 years ago he was able to use the very odd charisma he has to rebrand it in his own image but it's already starting to move away from him and grow into something else. The Trump cultists are currently only a small percentage of MAGA. His rallies are nothing like what they were back in 2016. He can't even pull a bigger audience than a dead Charlie Kirk just got.
The future leader of the movement will be something scarier than Trump: a person who not only says the shit Trump says but sincerely believes it. Trump is an amoral, apathetic, incurious nihilist. Abortion, religion, free speech, the Constitution, he couldn't give a fuck about any of it, he simply says whatever reactionary shit Fox News viewers want to hear. But imagine a leader who SINCERELY believes in all that Old Testament morality. That's scarier to me, and it's what's coming.
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
>
> I think the movement is in total shambles once Trump dies unless one of his kids takes the mantle. It’s a total cult of personality.
I disagree. Trump didn't create the MAGA wave, he just opportunistically chose to ride it. The circumstances that created the movement existed before him. 10 years ago he was able to use the very odd charisma he has to rebrand it in his own image but it's already starting to move away from him and grow into something else. The Trump cultists are currently only a small percentage of MAGA. His rallies are nothing like what they were back in 2016. He can't even pull a bigger audience than a dead Charlie Kirk just got.
The future leader of the movement will be something scarier than Trump: a person who not only says the shit Trump says but sincerely believes it. Trump is an amoral, apathetic, incurious nihilist. Abortion, religion, free speech, the Constitution, he couldn't give a fuck about any of it, he simply says whatever reactionary shit Fox News viewers want to hear. But imagine a leader who SINCERELY believes in all that Old Testament morality. That's scarier to me, and it's what's coming.
boof replied with this 4 months ago, 12 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,392,079
well it's USA trend that was seen by Republican Barry Goldwater in the 1960s and he did not like it. Ronald Reagan was the initial big power capture.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 11 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,392,190
@1,391,959 (J)
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
>
> I think the movement is in total shambles once Trump dies unless one of his kids takes the mantle. It’s a total cult of personality.
It'll probably purity spiral.
> > Trump isn't relevant at this point. Case in point is the absurd scale of Charlie Kirk's memorial that's happening as I write this. Trump is the face and voice of MAGA but he isn't the final form. The final form is someone with those views who isn't a complete shambles of a human being and can actually hold himself together publicly without making himself seem inbred. I'd be more worried about something like a Tom Cotton-led USA than a Donald Trump-led America, from a social perspective. Someone who has Trump's knack for stoking the politics of fear, envy, blame and conspiracy but who knows how and when to rein it all in and whose speech patterns aren't modelled on those of an irritable toddler. That's the kind of thing that's on the way. It won't be another next-generation clown like Gaetz or Marjorie Taylor Green. And as for the endgame, it's a kind of fundamentalist Christian plutocracy.
>
> I think the movement is in total shambles once Trump dies unless one of his kids takes the mantle. It’s a total cult of personality.
It'll probably purity spiral.
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@previous (Q)
> She and this Idiot were a Team
its the legendry Qanon! what are you up to these days?
> She and this Idiot were a Team
its the legendry Qanon! what are you up to these days?
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,402,735
to make you kill yourself