tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 2 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,457
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I mean he's retarded but I can't be that happy at watching a 31-year-old father shot in the neck bleeding out violently on TV.
boof replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,459
@1,388,456 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
The cost of freedom apparently is tens of thousands of lives to feed the insatiable Moloch each year
"Gun-related deaths from preventable, intentional, and undetermined causes totaled 46,728 in 2023, a decrease of 3% from 48,204 deaths in 2022. Suicides account for 58% of deaths related to firearms, while 38% were homicides, and about 1% were preventable/accidental."
"The truth is that while those on the left - particularly the far left - claim to be tolerant and welcoming of diversity, in reality many are quite intolerant of anyone not embracing their radical views."
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 42 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,522
@1,388,518 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Not many years ago, before you married Brie and did a 180 on most of your beliefs, you openly and loudly mocked trans people. Say someone took a rifle and shot you in the throat, would that be justified? Would you be crying about "marginalized people?"
Anonymous K replied with this 4 months ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,525
@1,388,521 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You didn't either. You loudly and proudly talked about men who "dressed as women" and called them grotesque, for years. Do you deserve to be killed for that? What's wrong with you?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 4 months ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,536
@1,388,531 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
That he wouldn't care that his children saw him die. He also wouldn't care if other people's children were shot either
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 37 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,600
"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
Anonymous I replied with this 4 months ago, 49 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,609
@1,388,607 (Lady D !Pool..v42s)
He was employing the motte and bailey fallacy after losing to his debate partner who had proven him wrong about trans mass shooters
Lady D !Pool..v42s replied with this 4 months ago, 17 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,613
@1,388,608 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That's such a cop out answer too, duh too many cause any mass shooters is too many, but 5 over the last 10 years vs super way too many cis folk.
Anonymous Q replied with this 4 months ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,636
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Is it bad if a part of me feels embarrassed whenever politics figures communicate via social media? I get this is 2025, but it’s like… the same platform you can find OnlyFans girls on? The same platform dudes be busting a nut on? Really?
Anonymous P double-posted this 4 months ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,650
@1,388,617 (I) > There are no public biographical details about the shooter, since they remain unidentified and at large.
I am 99% certain I'm not going to be surprised in the slightest when they catch the culprit and we learn those biographical details.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 29 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,651
@1,388,649 (P)
If you provoke enough people and constantly go out in public over and over again in front of crowds of people you’re pissing off with no security whatsoever in a country where there are more guns than people, at some point it’s just a numbers game.
Anonymous R double-posted this 4 months ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,654
Like the whole reason conservatives like Charlie Kirk is because he agitates crowds of left leaning college students in shouting matches over and over and over and over again. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that might not be a smart thing to do.
Anonymous R replied with this 4 months ago, 43 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,658
Rich and important people like politicians and billionaires, they have crazy amounts of protection. People buy bulletproof suits and Jeff Bezos for example, whenever he’s in public he’s always with his bodyguard who has a fake hand so he can always have his real hand on his gun. You can’t be famous and be safe at the same time. That’s not how it’s ever worked before.
> I mean he's retarded but I can't be that happy at watching a 31-year-old father shot in the neck bleeding out violently on TV.
He totally supported Trump cutting off Cancer drug trials and Cancer drug studies at Harvard and many other universities.
Supported Trump/Musk cutting off children from food/school lunch programs.
Supported Immigrant Children having to go before a Federal Judge and Federal Prosecutor with no provisions for legal support. Imagine a child of 10 who has traveled from Honduras to USA for food and safety, facing adults with no support.
Supported ICE forcing women who were raped to be deported back to their rapist.
What's not to be loved with a guy like that. (Satire)
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 4 months ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,669
@1,388,664 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That's true but also Kash Patel is a part time FBI director who lives out of Vegas and has whored the FBI out to ICE so they can arrest 3 illegal roofers in Home Depot parking lot. The number of actually competent investigators who are still around and able to work on this is probably considerably lower than a year ago. Not to mention this is going to be a Herculean task under the best of times. You need to sort through thousands of separate videos and interviews and shit to figure out who was where. Good luck to them.
Anonymous P replied with this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,689
@1,388,655 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > Maybe because his entire career was encouraging violence and discouraging empathy
Except it wasn't. Have you ever actually tried really listening to what he himself had to say, instead of making assumptions or believing what other people tell you they think he said?
> > Maybe because his entire career was encouraging violence and discouraging empathy > Except it wasn't. Have you ever actually tried really listening to what he himself had to say, instead of making assumptions or believing what other people tell you they think he said?
No I’ve just seen the videos where he has trillions of clips of 20 year old college kids where he cut out 30 seconds of the argument made them seem like an idiot, and thousands of people made fun of the college student in the comments.
Anonymous P replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,696
@1,388,691 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > Yes I have and yes it was
Point me to one of his many videos on YouTube where he is inciting or encouraging violence (not a news article claiming he said something, an actual speech or debate where he himself is speaking... and not just a small sound bite taken out of context either).
Anonymous U replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,697
I can’t imagine how he became popular on TikTok - a Chinese social media app. Have you ever seen Chinese state run media talk about America, like ever? They don’t like us lol.
Anonymous P replied with this 4 months ago, 9 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,699
@1,388,692 (U) > No I’ve just seen the videos where he has trillions of clips of 20 year old college kids where he cut out 30 seconds of the argument made them seem like an idiot, and thousands of people made fun of the college student in the comments.
Strange... the debates I've seen him do are full length, uncut, not just short clips, and every time he schools them.
He was pro televised public executions where children should watch, he called empathy a new age liberal hoax, he was okay with a certain amount of mass shootings to keep America "free", he denounced the civil rights act, he called MLK Jr a terrible person
He was a piece of shit and nothing you say will change that or being him back to life
> He spews violent rhetoric against a variety of minority groups
Read the Wikipedia article about him. He is as FAR Right as Far Right can be:
"He received criticism for a variety of controversial statements regarding his opposition to gun control, COVID-19 vaccines mandates, abortion, LGBTQ rights, his criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr., and his promotion of Christian nationalism and the Great Replacement conspiracy theory."
Having NO Clue what Christian Nationalism IS - Wiki to the rescue
"Russia
President of Russia Vladimir Putin has been described as a global leader of the Christian nationalist and Christian right movements. As President, Putin has increased the power of the Russian Orthodox Church and proclaimed his staunch belief in Eastern Orthodoxy, as well as maintaining close contacts with Patriarchs of Moscow and all Rus' Alexy II and Kirill.
The Russian Imperial Movement is a prominent neo-Nazi Christian nationalist group that trains militants all over Europe and has recruited thousands of fighters for its paramilitary group, the Imperial Legion, which is participating in the invasion of Ukraine. The group also works with the Atomwaffen Division in order to network with and recruit extremists from the United States.
I suppose Carlie would not have been opposed to being called a Clone of Hitler. Racist and Anti Black, he was the purfect model for a Modern Jesus (Sarcasm)
+Syntax !IL3gvTJy3M replied with this 4 months ago, 46 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,719
@1,388,709 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You and I recently have agreed on little lol - I have lots of friends who were even more far right than Charlie
One a best friend and I had to part company because he got a Job with the John Birch Right Wing Nuts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society
+Syntax !viQfopLf82 replied with this 4 months ago, 13 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,728
@previous (U)
I only say Commie because er hummmmm Take ex KGB Putin for instance - Clearly a Commie except he as with most Commies do NOT want to share THEIR Income.
Fascist no question. It's my way or the Highway - Putin wants Ukraine for the Wheat and other Agi products.
Never could understand how so called Christian Trump and Putin do what they do to people - Trump is happy to deport raped women back to the rapist. Abused children back to the abuser -
Charlie openly anti Black and Trump almost never hiring Blacks at his businesses. Real great Christians LoL
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,761
Jokes aside, and there are many funny jokes you can make about this considering his stance on guns, political violence is bad and self-perpetuating. Morons should be beaten at the ballot box, not shot, because then their supporters might shoot at your candidates too and the whole system breaks down. Yes seeing your ideological enemies shot dead is perversely satisfying, but I think it's better and more mature to not want anybody to be shot if possible.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,762
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
That is assuming it's a political attack, anyway, and not somebody with an insane or just inscrutable motive. I mean, I would assume it was, but still.
Interesting they haven't caught the shooter yet. Wonder if he'll get away?
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 4 months ago, 12 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,767
@previous (D)
There was no ballot box to beat them at (after a point for Hitler). Yes violence is necessary if you're living in a brutal dictatorship but that's not America.
> Jokes aside, and there are many funny jokes you can make about this considering his stance on guns, political violence is bad and self-perpetuating. Morons should be beaten at the ballot box, not shot, because then their supporters might shoot at your candidates too and the whole system breaks down. Yes seeing your ideological enemies shot dead is perversely satisfying, but I think it's better and more mature to not want anybody to be shot if possible.
when nancy pelosi's husband paul was attacked in his home. almost every one on the right was applauding it. when we voted for biden, they accused the left of rigging the elections and then Jan 6. happened.
the left by no means are saints themselves but some of us tried to play fair. We tried to beat one moron from being president again and look what we're at now. we got him because nobody wanted a woman running things.
so yeah while I get the sentiment. I really do. what happenend to that guy will eventually happen to people like him because civil discourse was thrown out the window long ago by them. its hard to feel remorse when their's school shootings back to back and yet those same morons will blame everything progressive and liberal as the demonic evil of the world.
> My advice: don’t get into an argument with killer lettuce, she’s an absolute cunt.
regardless it needs to be said. im seeing the alt-right coded people asking for compassion, amnesty and sincerity and im not going to be one to offer that.
Anonymous N replied with this 4 months ago, 14 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,783
@1,388,769 (Z-1)
Yeah, I can't help but feel similarly. I mean sure ideally this sort of thing would never happen to anyone. But it's hard to feel bad when it happens to someone so disgustingly evil. Calling them "ideological enemies" may be technically true but kinda misrepresents the divide between this extremist far right movement and... everyone else. Like by omission such a description kind of paints the two sides as merely disagreeing on issues of policy where there is no clear right or wrong, when prominent public figures of one side regularly say things like @1,388,738 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 4 months ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,800
@1,388,768 (X)
Haha, no. As great as the Romans were, studying them has made me appreciate modern democracies even more. The Romans would frequently have massive civil wars if an Emperor died without a clear successor. Modern democracies aren't perfect but they are much more stable than absolute monarchies.
@1,388,769 (Z-1) @previous (N)
Yes, this man indeed said horrible things and encouraged violence himself. I don't like the far-right either, I think they raise up incompetent morons to be their leaders and are fuelled by fake nostalgia and anger. I just don't think that murder will solve the larger issues that are behind them.
Whatever else has happened, you're not living in an authoritarian state, and the Republicans are not invincible at the ballot box by any means. And indeed, I suspect that all this shooting has achieved politically is to galvanise and legitimise this man's movement further.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,801
I have a similar feeling about this to when that health insurance executive was shot. Sure, you can take the view that both men profited by hurting the little guy, so in that sense you could feel quite cathartic that they got their comeuppance. But, taking a longer view, it hasn't really solved the bigger problem at all, and I don't think that further murdering will either.
Anonymous V replied with this 4 months ago, 30 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,388,804
@1,388,800 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
News tonight said he was speaking about the need to make guns easier to buy and was talking about the new serial killings just as the bullet hit his neck.
> Would you apply that to, say, Hitler and Pol Pot?
"We're not mentally ill, but don't criticise us using mean words or we'll compare you to Hitler and shoot you in the neck in front of your infant children. >:("
> Haha, no. As great as the Romans were, studying them has made me appreciate modern democracies even more. The Romans would frequently have massive civil wars if an Emperor died without a clear successor. Modern democracies aren't perfect but they are much more stable than absolute monarchies.
Our "representatives" are bought and paid for by corporations, and the U.S. is becoming increasingly authoritarian. The people are given no seat at the table, and won't be heard, so this is what happens. Even Charlie Kirk knew that: a large part of his Brand was "When people stop talking, Violence starts". Well, the people have no representation!
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,388,945
@1,388,942 (E)
I don't think that has been confirmed yet. It's supposedly been leaked by an inside source, but it's still up in the air.
Later on Thursday, a senior law enforcement told the New York Times that preliminary reports on the shooter's ammunition “might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted.”
boof replied with this 4 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,388,949
@1,388,942 (E)
whoa there tiger. sometimes early reports are true, sometimes not. just sayin', you can put it out as a possibility, but no need to jump the gun
Green !!bO/s3MBcD joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,388,953
I don't know much about him, but did enjoy some of his debates. No matter what his opinions were though, he didn't deserve to die. The people celebrating are reprehensible.
> I don't know much about him, but did enjoy some of his debates. No matter what his opinions were though, he didn't deserve to die. The people celebrating are reprehensible.
If suffering after the death is less than the suffering before the death, then it was worthwhile.
Anonymous D replied with this 4 months ago, 46 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,388,966
@previous (P)
Hitler had children too. How does that affect a person's character? I am against violence. I am only saying the mere fact of having children does not make someone unique or good inherently.
Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 4 months ago, 42 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,388,972
@previous (D)
False equivalency. Hitler was a psychopath who didn't just say evil diatribe, he acted on it. He is responsible for the Holocaust, Charlie Kirk is not, he just held opinions and said stuff you disagree with.
Anonymous M replied with this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,388,973
There needs to be a hit list of people who are gonna get gunned down if they don't shut up. The list can't be too long, maybe 50 maximum. If you are caught killing someone on the list you have your sentence halved.
> There needs to be a hit list of people who are gonna get gunned down if they don't shut up. The list can't be too long, maybe 50 maximum. If you are caught killing someone on the list you have your sentence halved.
Anonymous I replied with this 4 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,389,217
Laura Loomer, a far-right activist and vocal Trump supporter, publicly accused Charlie Kirk of betraying former President Donald Trump in early September 2025, shortly before Kirk's assassination. In her statement, she claimed Kirk had been acting like a "charlatan" by professing support for Trump while undermining him on key issues. Specifically, Loomer criticized Kirk for pushing for the full release of Jeffrey Epstein's files—despite Trump's reported efforts to block their disclosure—and for platforming critics of Israel, which she viewed as inconsistent with unwavering loyalty to Trump's pro-Israel stance and alliances. These positions were seen by Loomer and some in the MAGA faction as a "stab in the back" because they potentially embarrassed Trump or conflicted with his policies, positioning Kirk as more moderate within far-right circles.
Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and a prominent conservative influencer, was fatally shot on September 10, 2025, while speaking at a college event in Utah. A 22-year-old suspect, Tyler Robinson, was taken into custody the following day after being turned in by a family member.
In the aftermath, Loomer and other right-wing figures quickly blamed "the left" for the killing, with Loomer calling it an act by "terrorists" and warning that more violence could follow unless political opponents were suppressed.
Some online commentators have speculated that Loomer's recent attacks on Kirk as a traitor may have contributed to heightened tensions, though no direct link to the shooter has been established.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 4 months ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,389,277
@1,389,274 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Looking into the contribution, if he's 22 today he wouldve barely been 18 at best in 2020 and donating 200 bucks is a lot for someone that age, though obviously not impossible. Could be just another dude with the same name since it is a fairly common one.
Anonymous Z-6 joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,389,408
dude was psycho - the casings are pretty indicative that he thought he was fighting fascism by killing Kirk
I didn’t care for Kirk - I thought his schtick of debating dumb college kids wasn’t all that interesting but I really didn’t have a strong opinion one way or the other about the guy. He was just another social media dude
I saw the video of him getting shot and seeing the blood burst out of his neck and then him falling over was horrible. Sure you could argue he was a bigot racist or sexist but he didn’t deserve to die like that
I’ve gotten softer with age and am no longer the edgy anon I used to be. seeing him die grossed me out and made me feel sad
> No. He thought Charlie Kirk wasn't conservative enough > > The bullet casings messages were all memes and video game stuff
According to Cox, of the three unfired casings, one read: "Hey fascist! CATCH!" with an arrow symbol pointing up, then to the right, and then three arrows pointing down.
The arrow designs they are talking about are the arrows on the antifa flag. It seems pretty clear what his ideology is
> You've not bothered to do any research or even read the many things Ive posted here
I don’t find the random twitter screenshots you posted to be very credible nor do I find you to be very credible
I’ll patiently wait for the official explanation ty. I understand that it’s important for you that this shooter is a right wing guy because it’s easier for you emotionally and I’ll leave it at. Now you can go ahead and have the final word. Peace ✌️
tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,389,795
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
For me it's just Occam's razor at this point. He had shells with "Hey fascist! Catch!" and he's just assassinated a well-known conservative figure. His family and friends describe his beliefs as leftist, and increasingly radical. So yeah I don't know, maybe he's some sort of crypto-groyper using nebulous layers of irony -- but I doubt it. I'm more than ready to eat my words though!
Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 4 months ago, 26 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,389,799
@1,389,780 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It's more likely that the shooter was someone who disagreed with Charlie Kirk than agreed with them. What makes more sense, murdering someone because you disagree with them and think they're full of hate or murdering them because you agree with their opinions but think they're not going far enough?
Anonymous Z-12 joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,054
@previous (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)
Someone told me but I forgot because I’m too black to know what a groyper is so even if somebody tells me again I’ll forget the next day.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 4 months ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,079
@1,390,022 (Z-11)
First it was the shooter was a random transwoman, then it was the bullet casings had pro trans messaging, and now it's the shooter's roommate is trans. It's totally possible they're right this time but I think it's wise to slow down on the accusations after tripping over your dick and faceplanting twice.
Anonymous Z-13 joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 6 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,080
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Maybe the shooter had a friend who’s uncle had a sister who’s best friends coworker once talked to a Korean teacher who had a college roommate who had been to Thailand who met a man in Thailand who’s brother hired a man to work for his restaurant who had slept with a woman who had previously slept with a man who slept with a ladyboy.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 4 months ago, 3 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,081
@previous (Z-13)
Yes and even if that were true the shooter is still a cis white man! Maybe he's a groyper maybe he's a communist maybe he's both or neither but the one thing he isn't is transgender!
Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,082
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It is a bit strange if you think about it that they immediately assumed that the shooter was a minority because Charlie Kirk totally wasn’t a bigot. They just all thought a minority would want to shoot him specifically… for some reason.
Anonymous I replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,148
@1,389,795 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
But wait, those were the unused shell casings! Why hasn't there been any reporting on what was written on the spent shell casing? 🤔
Anonymous P replied with this 4 months ago, 6 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,456
@1,390,452 (Z-15) > in the New York Times.
The Utah County Attorney has just done a press briefing giving us the whole story. Watch it for yourself instead of getting a second hand spin.
Anonymous P replied with this 4 months ago, 41 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,458
@1,388,650 (P) > > There are no public biographical details about the shooter, since they remain unidentified and at large. > I am 99% certain I'm not going to be surprised in the slightest when they catch the culprit and we learn those biographical details.
Oh, and I was right. I am not in the slightest bit surprised at who this guy turned out to be and what his motives were.
Anonymous Z-18 joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 2 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,567
@previous (Z-17)
Crazy how in all of history, all these places you listed only ever had one shooter each so we’re supposed to know who you’re talking about based on the place name alone. These must be the safest places in the world.
> JD Vance was just on an episode of Kirkleton's podcast encouraging reporting people who say mean things about ol' Charles to their employers. > > Right wingers embracing cancel culture was not something I was expecting to see
You do raise an interesting point there! If you asked me as recently as 2010 or so I would have said the right wing was more censorious and what we would today call "cancel culture" (like when the Dixie Chicks got blacklisted from a lot of radio stations for criticizing Bush on Iraq, moral panics about Harry Potter, "Family Values", trying to get TV shows/radio hosts/video games censored, etc). Then it shifted to the left from 2014 to like 2023 now it's back to the right!
I do recall seeing one or two people who five years ago would have been the first to cheer someone losing their job for celebrating George Floyd's murder being utterly shocked that they lost their jobs for celebrating Charlie Kirk's.
> If you asked me as recently as 2010 or so I would have said the right wing was more censorious and what we would today call "cancel culture" (like when the Dixie Chicks got blacklisted from a lot of radio stations for criticizing Bush on Iraq, moral panics about Harry Potter, "Family Values", trying to get TV shows/radio hosts/video games censored, etc). Then it shifted to the left from 2014 to like 2023 now it's back to the right!
Good point. What do you think drives these shifts? I was thinking about this recently too. Remember when the biggest defenders of free speech in the US were the ACLU? They defended the free speech rights of the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK ferociously over decades. One major identity crisis later and now look at how they spend their time (good article on this in the NYT).
> All the "groyper!" idiots settled down quickly. 🤣
It seemed pretty obvious to me it wasn't going to be a groyper. Even before the trans roommate thing was verified to be true, it felt vanishingly unlikely Kirk would be taken out by someone who thinks he isn't extreme enough as opposed to someone on the left who just thought he was hateful/evil/fascist/etc.
Anonymous N replied with this 4 months ago, 12 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,642
@1,390,632 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Did something else come out about the shooter's motivations? What's the roommate thing? It's hard to keep track and sort through all the made up bullshit that's constantly being put out
> JD Vance was just on an episode of Kirkleton's podcast encouraging reporting people who say mean things about ol' Charles to their employers. > > Right wingers embracing cancel culture was not something I was expecting to see
Anonymous Z-26 joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,719
He was a clever shitposter who enriched himself as a provocateur. He didn’t deserve to die. I don’t know why this has to be a national conversation disrupting Congress.
He certainly wasn’t an intellectual. He argued through rhetorical tricks and logical fallacies, offering more invective than argument.
Anonymous P replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,736
@previous (Z-26) > I don’t know why this has to be a national conversation disrupting Congress.
Because he was such a hugely politically divisive figure. Anything that keeps left and right separated and arguing with each other is very good for politicians and the people who fund them. It's all a big game, not to mention a massive con.
Anonymous P double-posted this 4 months ago, 5 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,390,737
@1,390,702 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU) > I await your apology for your terrible rudeness to me when actually I was correct all along.
lol, never going to happen. Rule number 1, never apologise and always double down.
boof replied with this 4 months ago, 22 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,390,777
@1,390,768 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
since I can't be bothered to wade in the media muck, could you detail what Omar said that was bad
so far, I find
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[[[Omar's comments on "Kirk":
"You have people like Nancy Mace, who constantly harass, you know, people that she finds inferior and wants them not to exist in this country or ever,” Omar told left-wing pundit Mehdi Hasan in an interview on his Zeteo platform.
“And, you know, you have people like Trump, who has incited violence against people like me. And so, you know, these people are full of shit, and it’s important for us to call them out while we feel anger and sadness,” she added.
Her only comments specific to Kirk were empathy and condolences to his family ]]]
Omar is a person that was being circulated on twitter alongside tweets that said "I hope Charlie Kirk gets evaporated tomorrow" and "Something big is going to happen tomorrow"
> > I don’t know why this has to be a national conversation disrupting Congress. > Because he was such a hugely politically divisive figure. Anything that keeps left and right separated and arguing with each other is very good for politicians and the people who fund them. It's all a big game, not to mention a massive con.
> Omar is a person that was being circulated on twitter alongside tweets that said "I hope Charlie Kirk gets evaporated tomorrow" and "Something big is going to happen tomorrow"
I don't know what "alongside tweets" is supposed to mean. Just tell me what Omar said.
I think your bizarre slanders have got very little to do with the fact that you majorly crashed out over me saying that the shooter was a lefty with a trans rights grudge.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 4 months ago, 25 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,390,815
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My bizarre slanders about something that actually happened and your deep-seated insecurities over said experience?
I'm sure the scarecrow you're talking at is deeply insecure and has gone through all kind of strange and disturbing and/or wonderful experiences, but not me.
boof replied with this 4 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,390,908
Evangelical preachers have been demonizing (describing in such a manner that they would be assumed to be of the devil) what they call secular humanists for decades. Jerry Falwell was a particularly virulent piece of shit, the money of donors to buy time on television for his hatefomercials. I should mention that it was also fags. Always had to talk shit about the fags.
+Syntax !mxcVR2w7Wg replied with this 4 months ago, 24 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,391,892
@previous (Meta)
Wonder how many speakers will be BLACK and LGBTqxyz speakers.
"Kirk applied to the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, but was rejected in 2012."
On January 5, 2021, the day before the Washington, D.C., protest that led to the January 6 United States Capitol attack, Kirk wrote on Twitter that Turning Point Action and Students for Trump were sending more than 80 "buses of patriots to D.C. to fight for this president". A spokesman for Turning Point said that the groups ended up sending seven buses, not 80, with 350 students. In the lead-up to the storming, Kirk said he was "getting 500 emails a minute calling for a civil war". Publix heiress Julie Fancelli gave Kirk's organizations $1.25 million to fund the buses to the January 6 event. Kirk also paid $60,000 for Kimberly Guilfoyle to speak at the rally.
A February 2023 Brookings Institution study found Kirk's podcast contained the second-highest proportion of false, misleading, and unsubstantiated statements among 36,603 episodes produced by 79 prominent political podcasters
Kirk praised Martin Luther King Jr. prior to December 2023, variously calling him a "hero" and a "civil rights icon".
That December, he used a speech at AmericaFest to describe him as "awful ... not a good person" and as someone who is admired only because he said "one thing he didn't actually believe".
The speech also saw Kirk condemn the Civil Rights Act of 1964, calling its passage a "huge mistake" and alleging that it had created a "permanent DEI-type bureaucracy" In a 2022 episode of his podcast, Kirk called for a "patriot" to bail out of jail the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked and tried to murder her husband with a hammer In a 2022 episode of his podcast, Kirk called for a "patriot" to bail out of jail the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked and tried to murder her husband with a hammer In a 2022 episode of his podcast, Kirk called for a "patriot" to bail out of jail the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked and tried to murder her husband with a hammer
White Americans
Kirk had voiced a belief in the decline and victimhood of White Americans. In 2015, Kirk said that his dream in life to attend West Point was lost to a candidate of a different ethnicity. The rejection, which he blamed on affirmative action, deepened his turn to the right wing. In 2018, Kirk told a college audience that the concept of white privilege is a myth and a "racist idea". Assuming "more hard-right positions", he told followers of his radio podcast in 2021 that Democratic immigration policies were aimed at "diminishing and decreasing white demographics in America" and called for Texas to "deputize a citizen force and put them on the border" to protect "white demographics in America
Editorial Comment: I think Karma finally came to Charlie which allows todays Party.
Kirk's outspoken political activism received criticism and controversy. The New York Times said Kirk symbolized hope for the Christian right. His rhetoric was described as divisive, racist, xenophobic, and extreme by groups that studied hate speech, including the Southern Poverty Law Center. Kirk disagreed with critics that he created a toxic environment online, arguing: "Disagreement is a healthy part of our systems. Kirk's positions have been described as far-right by a variety of outlets and academics, while others state these positions are the mainstream in American conservatism.
Kirk promoted debunked claims about George Floyd, such as that he was "illegally counterfeiting currency" and had once "put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach". On Facebook, YouTube, and Rumble, Kirk repeatedly promoted the false claim that the medical examiner who performed the autopsy declared Floyd had died of an overdose. After a fact check by Agence France-Presse that noted the doctor stood by the classification of Floyd's death as a homicide, corrections were added to Kirk's posts on social media
Ahead of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Kirk spread falsehoods about voter fraud
In 2020, Kirk spread false information and conspiracy theories about COVID-19 on social media platforms, such as Twitter.
Kirk believed in the superiority of the Western world, credit for which he gave to the role of Christianity in civilization. In a 2023 speech, he said that "all men are created equal in the eyes of God, all men and women, but not all cultures are created equal. To say that, you get attacked in every direction, but excuse me when I say that Western civilization is the best that humanity has produced. It's an outgrowth of the Bible
According to a 2024 NBC News report, Kirk was relatively secular regarding LGBTQ rights in the United States in 2018, but shifted toward more conservative stances.
Anonymous Z-39 joined in and replied with this 4 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,391,896
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I’ll never understand why Protestant Christian nationalists think the Bible is evidence of the superiority of the west. Did these people not read the Bible? The Romans aren’t the good guys lol.
> You gotta be careful lending your hammer to random people you bring home from the gay bar.
Well Charlie looking for some random reason made up that gay shit. FACT CHECKED
CONVICTED for that Crime -DePape, a Canadian immigrant to the United States, had a history of mental health issues and drug abuse. Before the attack, he had embraced various far-right conspiracy theories, including QAnon, Pizzagate, and Donald Trump's false claims of a stolen election in 2020. Online, he made conspiratorial, racist, sexist, and antisemitic posts, and pushed COVID-19 vaccine misinformation. His blog also contained delusional thoughts[7][8]. At his subsequent trial, DePape testified that he was motivated by conspiracy theories and had hatched a "grand plan" to target Speaker Pelosi and others.
Within days, prominent right-wing figures, including former president Donald Trump, shared disinformation and misinformation about the attack, casting doubt on the assailant's motives and claiming that the attack was a false flag operation
YOU Meta you Ain't going to find and truth to the gay shit - Charlie was truly into the gay shit theory and hummmmmmmm He totally enjoyed the Attack and well KARMA Cause he failed to stop the Bullet LoL
One would think Charlie could with all his powers just grab the bullet - Guess he was not so much so good at such a hummmmm Feet.
Anonymous Z-46 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,403,653
@1,388,457 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
you just know his children will be a greater threat to the shooters ideology than poor, retarded, israel first charlie kirk ever was.