Ironically the most anti Chinese people will vote yes for this because they can’t see how giving their enemies weapons could ever go wrong since when their enemies are empowered with weapons they’ll obviously realize you’re right and take your side.
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It would probably be fine because there's probably less than a billion Chinese, that's part of the reason you have ghost cities, all that housing was for ghost people. Worst case scenario we help all the indians get guns
2014 calling (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,183
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If Indians get guns, they’re probably going to commit genocide against their ancient ancestral oppressors who disrespected Indian cultural heritage for generations and looted and destroyed India turning it from the wealthiest civilization in the history of the world into a third world backwater where people shit in the streets: Pakistan. Then after a while they might eventually remember England did something way back when.
2014 calling (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 46 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,185
India and Pakistan with nuclear weapons: that the world can tolerate. But India and Pakistan with guns, no. That can never be allowed under any circumstance.
> Do you think we should help arm all of Africa in that case?
You know how Africa has had a lot of civil wars since they became independent from Europe but they were colonized by Europe because Africans didn’t have guns but Europeans did?
…where do you think all the guns in Africa came from?
2014 calling (OP) triple-posted this 4 months ago, 4 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,187
Remember when we left Afghanistan and we just left behind all that military equipment and all those helicopters and armored vehicles? You don’t think in the 2020s the US military, the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen, might have been more competent than the British empire in the 1960s when they left Africa? All I’m saying is, I wasn’t alive back then, but I imagine they didn’t bother figuring the logistics of getting all those guns and tanks out of Africa so they probably just left them there. Take South Africa for example, they took the nuclear weapons apart, but uranium is an element. The white South Africans didn’t take their uranium back to Denmark or England or whatever. They left it all right there and let the blacks have it as long as they promised to the world they wouldn’t make a bomb with it. And they still have it.
2014 calling (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 1 second later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,190
Like, Africans literally never bothered enriching uranium. White people went to Africa, enriched uranium to weapons grade, then when they decolonized Africa, they just left it there. So like in the media when they fear monger about "Iran could enrich uranium in months/years/weeks" technically, South Africa could make like 10 nuclear bombs right now today. But they signed a treaty saying they won’t do it.
2014 calling (OP) double-posted this 4 months ago, 47 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,191
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I think Europe has better luck of befriending the Africans than the US does tbh. We’re kinda pulling out and letting the Russians and Chinese win over there.
2014 calling (OP) replied with this 4 months ago, 3 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,195
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China does have a long history in Africa though. The one thing I worry about is how much Africans trust Europe vs China given the difference in their past histories in Africa.
2014 calling (OP) double-posted this 4 months ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,388,198
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Idk, I feel like sometimes people have an attitude of "well it was 200 years ago get over it" but in South Africa for example, they weren’t really decolonized until the 1990s. That’s not super long ago.
True but people are very forgetful, especially if the environment changes. Like the soviets collapsed, and then a lot of Europeans thought Russian aggression was over... But you see a lot of the same people were still running things there, meanwhile Europeans had new leaders over and over. With a young population like in Africa, there's chance for many new beginnings
It's interesting to imagine what that looks like, one continent respecting another continent, but I think it could take the form of pure economic interest. It's always about the money right? There is big corporations eyeing the quietly declining western populations and then looking over at the huge and young African population.
In the most dream like way, I like to imagine Nike demanding the end of malaria because they want to have more people to sell their shoes too
Yes I suppose it would be easy enough to think of Europeans as old foes, but active enemies? Hopefully not, I think instead it will be a more generalized "outsiders" should be treated with suspicion and that includes everyone, not just Europeans
It's going to be fine, stuff like AI is going to ease the language barrier, some sort of golden African age is going to ease the pain of old wounds. Believe in them, believe in you. Humanity is us ;)