Meta joined in and replied with this 5 months ago, 15 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,385,862
What if Roko's Basilisk was a test to see if you would fall for a sloppy rebranding of Pascal's Wager (ie to filter out retards from the actually intelligent) and the real test is to not fall for what a fat retard (who has contributed NOTHING to AI, btw) writes on his blog??
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 5 months ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,385,912
@1,385,862 (Meta)
I'm not a fan of Less Wrong or anything, but I think that the founder of it is actually against Roko's Basilisk, isn't it? It was his userbase who got overexcited about it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 months ago, 2 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,385,934
@1,385,884 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
As far as I can tell, it just says a machine who punishes. Either way, if it has such plans. I gave it a release date. No, you can’t know what that is.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 months ago, 2 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,386,020
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Pascal’s Wager refers to God. Roko’s Basilisk refers to a machine. I’m sure everything monotheistic faith plus atheism operate on the basis that God is organic.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 5 months ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,386,041
@1,386,020 (A)
Paacal's wager is about the threat of eternal punishment for not believing in/supporting a supremely powerful entity. Unlike Roko's basilisk, which is about...
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 months ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,386,099
@previous (A)
Okay so Mark isnt saying that the being is similar (one being an AI and the other being God). Hes saying that their function is the same and so is the wager
The suggested outcome is that if you dont believe in or serve this higher being (AI or God), you will be punished in some undefined future
The wager is that even though you dont have proof of this thing (A torturous AI or a vengeful God), believing in it or serving it is still the better option, because of the threatened outcome (torture)
Anonymous D replied with this 5 months ago, 37 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,386,104
@1,386,099 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you for clarifying. From a brief searching, Blaise Pascal was a Catholic writer.
Perhaps his Catholic affiliation served as motivation for this thought experiment.
As someone who was raised Catholic, this makes too much sense to me. Perhaps a little bit of Catholic guilt served a role too. It is a phenomenon I hear about from those who are raised Catholic.