Anonymous A started this discussion 5 months ago#128,147
What was Japan planning to do after the won World War Two? Can you imagine white dudes getting bossed around by Japanese people? Like in your mind, can you visualize that?
Dedication replied with this 5 months ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,979
It’s interesting how the Japanese used to be racist against white people until they lost the war, then they started glorifying the white people who nuked them twice.
Japan is the weirdest country because they have this ethnic nationalist thing going on but they collectively have betrayed their own race since the Meiji restoration. First they allied with the British in World War One, weird choice considering they weren’t white and the British were trying to control the world. But at least the British were democratic so you could make an excuse for that. Then they decided to kill a bunch of Asians to prove they were equal to Europeans and allied with Adolf Hitler who wrote that he thought the Japanese would be barbarians if they couldn’t copy Aryans because the Japanese were biologically incapable of creating their own technological innovations due to some innate difference in intelligence that made them inferior but not so inferior they couldn’t copy designs. (Sort of a race traitor thing to do, kill your own race to impress another that wants to exterminate yours). Asians were also sterilized in Nazi Germany due to their eugenics policy, so allying with them was pretty stupid. Then they lost the war, got nuked twice, and have been America’s bitch ever since. They have 1/3rd the GDP per capita of the United States and have to pretend their military isn’t a military and have to have giant American military bases forever even though almost everybody who was alive back then is dead now. But they still feel like they’re special because white people like them more than other Asian people as if it’s not because of their total submission to the west.
Dedication double-posted this 5 months ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,980
Then Neo Nazis have the audacity to act like Japanese culture is superior to black culture and get mad about some black guy in a random ass assassins creed video game like they never go outside and touch grass. They act like black people should feel jealous of Japan for having a superior culture, yet they try to make the Japanese sound worse than white people at the same time, because they want it both ways. They want to say white atrocities aren’t that bad while also saying "oh look how nice Japan is, why can’t blacks be like that?" And it’s like, why the fuck would I want an African country to get nuked twice and have American military bases forever? What the fuck type of idiot black person would want that?
Dedication replied with this 5 months ago, 47 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,985
It’s also weird people have this idea that their economy is great, even though being an ethnically homogenous country with a low birth rate and low immigration that became sort of wealthy but not actual Western European level wealthy-wealthy through a historical accident has actually caused their economy to stagnate for decades. They fell behind Germany, next they’re going to fall behind India. Never mind I googled it, they already fell behind India. Next is the UK. It was news recently when they fell behind Germany so I just assumed they were still ahead of India but nope.
Dedication triple-posted this 5 months ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,987
@1,381,984 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I don’t like racism, it’s just, if you’re going to create a racial hierarchy, it pisses me off more if they don’t even put themselves on the top of the racial hierarchy they created. Like black people fucking hate black people who glorify white people. If you’re a black person that’s like social suicide, but in Japan that’s just their culture.
Dedication quadruple-posted this 5 months ago, 38 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,988
@1,381,986 (Dedication)
And I agree with you on that takes away their agency and makes them seen like monkeys… which is why them allying with Hitler was stupid.
Dedication quintuple-posted this 5 months ago, 9 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,989
It’s also weird how much people hate on India but they don’t notice if you look at a graph of India’s GDP over time, it’s on a very obvious exponential trajectory.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 months ago, 50 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,990
@1,381,986 (Dedication)
These are your words, not Hitler
Then they decided to kill a bunch of Asians to prove they were equal to Europeans and allied with Adolf Hitler who wrote that he thought the Japanese would be barbarians if they couldn’t copy Aryans because the Japanese were biologically incapable of creating their own technological innovations due to some innate difference in intelligence that made them inferior
Also, you've said this about other unsavory things that people of color have done
Dedication replied with this 5 months ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,997
Here’s the exact two paragraphs from Mein Kampf I’m retrenching: (the second is more important than the first)
If we divide mankind into three categories—founders of culture, bearers of culture, and destroyers of culture—the Aryan alone can be considered as representing the first category. It was he who laid the groundwork and erected the walls of every great structure in human culture. Only the shape and colour of such structures are to be attributed to the individual characteristics of the various nations. It is the Aryan who has furnished the great building-stones and plans for the edifices of all human progress; only the way in which these plans have been executed is to be attributed to the qualities of each individual race. Within a few decades the whole of Eastern Asia, for instance, appropriated a culture and called such a culture its own, whereas the basis of that culture was the Greek mind and Teutonic skill as we know it. Only the external form—at least to a certain degree—shows the traits of an Asiatic inspiration. It is not true, as some believe, that Japan adds European technique to a culture of her own. The truth rather is that European science and technics are just decked out with the peculiar characteristics of Japanese civilization. The foundations of actual life in Japan to-day are not those of the native Japanese culture, although this characterizes the external features of the country, which features strike the eye of European observers on account of their fundamental difference from us; but the real foundations of contemporary Japanese life are the enormous scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America, that is to say, of Aryan peoples. Only by adopting these achievements as the foundations of their own progress can the various nations of the Orient take a place in contemporary world progress. The scientific and technical achievements of Europe and America provide the basis on which the struggle for daily livelihood is carried on in the Orient. They provide the necessary arms and instruments for this struggle, and only the outer forms of these instruments have become gradually adapted to Japanese ways of life.
If, from to-day onwards, the Aryan influence on Japan would cease—and if we suppose that Europe and America would collapse—then the present progress of Japan in science and technique might still last for a short duration; but within a few decades the inspiration would dry up, and native Japanese character would triumph, while the present civilization would become fossilized and fall back into the sleep from which it was aroused about seventy years ago by the impact of Aryan culture. We may therefore draw the conclusion that, just as the present Japanese development has been due to Aryan influence, so in the immemorial past an outside influence and an outside culture brought into existence the Japanese culture of that day. This opinion is very strongly supported by the fact that the ancient civilization of Japan actually became fossilizied and petrified. Such a process of senility can happen only if a people loses the racial cell which originally had been creative or if the outside influence should be withdrawn after having awakened and maintained the first cultural developments in that region. If it be shown that a people owes the fundamental elements of its culture to foreign races, assimilating and elaborating such elements, and if subsequently that culture becomes fossilized whenever the external influence ceases, then such a race may be called the depository but never the creator of a culture.
Dedication double-posted this 5 months ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,998
Of course Nazis like to cite a handful of individual sentences where he said things that make it sound like he liked the Japanese, but I don’t think he thought too highly of them.
Dedication triple-posted this 5 months ago, 7 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,381,999
He says it in a tone that makes it feel like there’s some level of respect, but if you look at the meaning of the words, he’s saying that the Japanese literally don’t have a culture because they’re too stupid to create one, which is actually pretty offensive if you think about.
Deflation joined in and replied with this 5 months ago, 18 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,382,003
I think you might be conflating me saying that Japan was trying to prove they were equal to white people with Hitler saying the Japanese copied white people. He was talking about civilization and technology and scientific progress and I think that his view is racist. What I’m saying is that the Japanese envied western empires and they wanted to do what the British had done but in a much shorter timespan in order to prove themselves. Which isn’t racist, that’s just human nature, it happens all the time.
Dedication joined in and replied with this 5 months ago, 35 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,382,011
@1,382,004 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Hitler wanted an ally in the east in order to fight the Soviet Union. He wrote positively about the Japanese and the Chinese because he was hoping one of the two would ally him, but in Mein Kampf, he wrote negatively about the Koreans since Korea had already been occupied by Japan. However, Japan didn’t invade the Soviet Union at the same time as the Nazis, and Japan also invaded China which made an alliance with China impossible, so his plan in Asia failed. He didn’t like Asians, he only talked about them positively in order to justify allying with Asians to the German people since it directly contradicted the ideological worldview of German superiority.
Dedication double-posted this 5 months ago, 11 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,382,014
@1,382,004 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
In the next paragraph directly after those two he says this:
"If we subject the different peoples to a strict test from this standpoint we shall find that scarcely any one of them has originally created a culture, but almost all have been merely the recipients of a culture created elsewhere."
Dedication triple-posted this 5 months ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,382,015
The Nazi view was literally that Japanese culture doesn’t exist and ancient white people taught the Japanese how to be civilized but the Japanese never invented anything. (Which there is zero evidence of).
Dedication quadruple-posted this 5 months ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,382,017
If you look into esoteric Neo Nazism, there’s a conspiracy theory about a lost continent called Hyperborea. There are some Russian Neo Nazis that believe that ancient Celtic tribes (so basically Irish people) are actually aliens from another planet and there used to be a continent in the Arctic Ocean that sunk (Nazi Atlantis / Hyperborea) and white people actually come from an ice planet like Europa or something. If you look through comments from Neo Nazis on the internet, you can occasionally find someone unironically talking about Hyperborea. Everything they believe is literally insane schizophrenic stuff.
ErikTest joined in and replied with this 5 months ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,382,087
Black women are responsible for my sex addiction. I don’t have any problem with the Japanese for putting Black people in concentration camps during World War One. I would have done the same. Do you have any idea what those Blacks were doing to Japs down in Africa when the Japs went to Africa to build infrastructure? Those Blackies was charging interest! As Christians we don’t do that. In England, I never have to pay back any interest on my loans, because we don’t get our loans from Jews.
Anonymous C replied with this 5 months ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,382,090
@1,382,087 (ErikTest) > As Christians we don’t do that.
Christians raped and pillaged for centuries. In the name of Jesus, zillions of people were slaughtered, for the pure joy of how they worshiped Jesus.
Currently Priests of the Catholic Church, are most famous for raping choir boys.