Topic: I was watching Friends over the weekend and realised how fucking based it is.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 6 months ago #127,716
I remember it being a bit mainstream cringe and safe but imagine if it was made today. Six friends who are white and straight in NYC, today it would be two black, one Indian, one Asian and two white with at least three being some kind of lgbt and one being on the autism spectrum. Then onto the writing, you know 85% of it would be political with all olof that taking the side of the left.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,378,650
Do you think having all-white TV and movies is good?
boof joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 50 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,651
well at least half of them are retarded
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 6 months ago, 19 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,652
@1,378,650 (B)
Well yeah, they are not trying to be all inclusive and diverse. You can have all black tv shows too. Its fine
Well yeah, they are not trying to be all inclusive and diverse. You can have all black tv shows too. Its fine
Anonymous B replied with this 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,653
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
What is wrong with inclusivity? Doesn't that represent humanity more accurately?
What is wrong with inclusivity? Doesn't that represent humanity more accurately?
T-34 joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,654
So I’m not a racist, so I’m fine with it, but I’m just going to point out that they’re actually Jewish.
T-34 double-posted this 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,655
@1,378,653 (B)
> What is wrong with inclusivity? Doesn't that represent humanity more accurately?
Erik posts updates every time he buys cocaine or thinks about paying for a prostitute. He’s not the brightest bulb. The reason why he is the way that he is is because he’s incapable of being anything more than that. He even said he dropped out of college because he wanted to play video games instead. He’s just not a smart person and he literally can’t be.
> What is wrong with inclusivity? Doesn't that represent humanity more accurately?
Erik posts updates every time he buys cocaine or thinks about paying for a prostitute. He’s not the brightest bulb. The reason why he is the way that he is is because he’s incapable of being anything more than that. He even said he dropped out of college because he wanted to play video games instead. He’s just not a smart person and he literally can’t be.
T-34 triple-posted this 6 months ago, 4 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,656
Like, doing drugs in the first place is stupid. Doing weed is stupid if weed is illegal because you can go to jail for it. Weed usually can’t kill you on its own (unless it’s laced with something). So out of all the drugs one could do it’s less dangerous, admittedly. Cocaine can kill you. Somebody who does cocaine is probably dumber than your average stoner. Now someone who does cocaine and tells other people about it, now that’s pretty stupid. On the internet on a website where you can’t delete posts… like this is a level of stupid that scientists have not even theorized about. It was not known that this is mathematically possible to be this stupid. It violates the laws of physics. You can’t have a head that has negative mass. It doesn’t make sense.
T-34 quadruple-posted this 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,657
From google AI: "A lethal dose of cocaine varies greatly depending on a variety of factors, making it impossible to state a definitive amount. Several sources indicate that a minimum dose of 1.2 grams (1200 mg) is considered lethal."
boof replied with this 6 months ago, 45 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,658
Jeepers! someone should do something about this
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 12 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,659
didn't you fail to differentiate white cultures earlier?
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 6 months ago, 52 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,678
@1,378,653 (B)
It doesn't have to be in literally everything. Not everyone's friends group is a rainbow
It doesn't have to be in literally everything. Not everyone's friends group is a rainbow
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,680
Oh, I'm sure the BET channel had a black version in the 2000's and Netflix remade it with the diversity crew during COVID, they did with everything else.
@1,378,650 (B)
> Do you think having all-white TV and movies is good?
No. Pop culture sucks regardless.
@1,378,650 (B)
> Do you think having all-white TV and movies is good?
No. Pop culture sucks regardless.
T-34 joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,682
T-34 double-posted this 6 months ago, 18 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,683
You will never be as racist as me, not in a million years.
T-34 triple-posted this 6 months ago, 24 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,684
I hate over 8 million species of beetle.
T-34 quadruple-posted this 6 months ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,685
(Four of them were British.)
boof replied with this 6 months ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,688
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,697
@1,378,684 (T-34)
I'm impressed that you can differentiate between 8 million species of beetle. They all look the same to me.
I'm impressed that you can differentiate between 8 million species of beetle. They all look the same to me.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,708
Its weird that you're like this over race
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 39 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,711
Modern TV still has standouts. I got through 20 minutes of Ballard and tapped out. Maggie Q hasn’t learned to act and has gone mid-life anorexic. Within those 20 minutes the forced diversity was laughable. A fat black woman in a wheel chair is the commander. Everyone else represents something else from the box of crayons. Harry Bosch is a loathsome and invasive white man. This would have been the perfect show in 2021.
To be clear, I don’t care if a cast is diverse. I roll my eyes when it’s jarring or forced. Jarring as in there’s suddenly diversity in 16th century England.
To be clear, I don’t care if a cast is diverse. I roll my eyes when it’s jarring or forced. Jarring as in there’s suddenly diversity in 16th century England.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 months ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,714
Also, Friends was considered to be pretty groundbreaking at the time
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 9 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,716
It was an extremely schizophrenic show, even at the time. It bent over backwards to celebrate its progressive bona fides with stuff like "TV'S FIRST LESBIAN WEDDING!!!", interracial relationships, de-shaming single motherhood, female independence, all that. But then in literally the same episodes that were celebrating diversity and empowerment you'd have the relentless fat-shaming of young Monica, jokes about Rachel's pre-plastic surgery nose, ENDLESS 'jokes' about Chandler possibly being gay, relentless mockery of his trans father, jokes about Rachel's "slutty" student years, and so on. I don't criticise it for any of this, it remains an interesting snapshot of a rapidly changing social time period.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 6 months ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,717
Oh yeah, and all the jokes about Ross 'turning Carol into a lesbian' didn't sit all that comfortably with the "look how progressive our lesbian couple storyline is" narrative.
But again, great show, flaws and all, and a major part of my generation's pop culture. Its heart was in the right place.
But again, great show, flaws and all, and a major part of my generation's pop culture. Its heart was in the right place.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 12 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,721
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 23 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,726
@previous (L)
> It's a shame it took place in New York.
A very isolated and bubble New York. They never trip over heroin addicts and the muggers are “stick yer hands up” white guys.
When the show started some parts of NYC still looked like the Thriller video due to AIDS.
> It's a shame it took place in New York.
A very isolated and bubble New York. They never trip over heroin addicts and the muggers are “stick yer hands up” white guys.
When the show started some parts of NYC still looked like the Thriller video due to AIDS.
boof replied with this 6 months ago, 3 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,378,760
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,105
Friends had some pretty homophobic and transphobic storylines by modern standards
10/10 show
10/10 show
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 months ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,176
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 12 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,299
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 6 months ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,319
@1,379,105 (N)
I saw someone having a shit fit recently because they watched Austin Powers, having remembered it to be quite funny, and now they find it problematic.
I saw someone having a shit fit recently because they watched Austin Powers, having remembered it to be quite funny, and now they find it problematic.
boof replied with this 6 months ago, 26 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,322
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
oh come now, who can have a problem with "help help I'm in a nutshell"
oh come now, who can have a problem with "help help I'm in a nutshell"
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 8 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,356
Look, no one told them life was gonna be this way.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 6 months ago, 5 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,379,398
@1,379,319 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I was watching a YouTube video a while ago by this young woman who does mostly excellent reviews of classic Victorian literature but when she got to Oliver Twist she kept droning on about how it's a "highly problematic novel" because of Fagin being a Jewish stereotype. She wouldn't let the issue go. "HIGHLY problematic" she kept saying, with emphasis on "highly". I wanted to say to her "Here, I'll solve the problem for you - it was published in 1839. There, problem solved. It's not the job of the present to deliver a tutting rebuke to the past. Let it go. Oliver Twist would only be problematic if it were written today, not nearly 200 years ago".
She's young, doing a PhD in English literature, and I'm confident she'll grow out of the childishness. She's an otherwise perceptive and intelligent reader.
I was watching a YouTube video a while ago by this young woman who does mostly excellent reviews of classic Victorian literature but when she got to Oliver Twist she kept droning on about how it's a "highly problematic novel" because of Fagin being a Jewish stereotype. She wouldn't let the issue go. "HIGHLY problematic" she kept saying, with emphasis on "highly". I wanted to say to her "Here, I'll solve the problem for you - it was published in 1839. There, problem solved. It's not the job of the present to deliver a tutting rebuke to the past. Let it go. Oliver Twist would only be problematic if it were written today, not nearly 200 years ago".
She's young, doing a PhD in English literature, and I'm confident she'll grow out of the childishness. She's an otherwise perceptive and intelligent reader.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 6 months ago, 6 days later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,380,717
boof replied with this 6 months ago, 1 day later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,381,167
so I wanted an automatic but all they had in stock was problematic