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Topic: on reddit, moderators are allowed to ban users on their part of reddit if you use another part of re

boof started this discussion 2 days ago #127,098

reddit. I would think that reddit would want to put a stop to having a substantial amount of its user base being prevented from using parts of reddit for using other parts of reddit.

Boatussy !ZVY1oRAJO. joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,373,844

They never cared about the politcal subs (unless it gets the platform publicity). They want everyone on the front page, no adblock, updooting inane "this is so me / I can relate" posts for the ad drip feed (ad firehose really).

(Edited 21 seconds later.)

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 16 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,847

There are four types of posts on Reddit

1. People lying that they’re more successful than they actually are anonymously to people who don’t know who they are.

2. People pretending to be experts on things they know nothing about.

3. People who act overly impressed by technology while lacking a basic understanding of how it actually works. (People who think ChatGPT is sentient and the US military has alien spacecraft unironically.)

4. Porn.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,867

@previous (C)

> There are four types of posts on Reddit
>
> 1. People lying that they’re more successful than they actually are anonymously to people who don’t know who they are.
>
> 2. People pretending to be experts on things they know nothing about.
>
> 3. People who act overly impressed by technology while lacking a basic understanding of how it actually works. (People who think ChatGPT is sentient and the US military has alien spacecraft unironically.)
>
> 4. Porn.

This is apt. I’d add trolls who get the above to double down on stupid for their own amusement.

Banning people for something “objectionable” in another unrelated forum sounds like a panopticon run by assholes.

Which is why I prefer these sites.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,874

@previous (D)
Minichan is even more useless than Reddit in terms of information. I only use it because I don’t write under anything that requires an account. Nobody here even pretends to know anything. At least idiots on Reddit pretend to be smart.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,875

Stack overflow and hacker news are probably the best forums tbh. People on stack overflow don’t always have the best advice or computationally efficient solutions, but the answers always work. People on hacker news actually have opinions on technology that aren’t idiotic.

Anonymous E triple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,876

The only thing is, stack overflow is useful, but I never felt like wasting my time answering other people’s questions or creating an account. I think I posted something dumb on hacker news one time but I don’t remember what it was.

Anonymous E quadruple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,877

There was one post I saw on Reddit where some guy didn’t know how to use the DOM in a job interview and was complaining about it.

tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,882

@1,373,875 (E)
HN is pretty good. I've had an account for ~14 years but I mostly lurk. They can be a very obnoxious, hive-minded bunch when people dare to disagree. It's the only semi-serious community on the Internet where I've witnessed a tabs-versus-spaces argument descend into death threats.

(Edited 20 seconds later.)

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 29 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,883

@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Tabs.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,884

@previous (E)
Spaces. Four spaces.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 45 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,885

@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
As soon as I get my hands on the file, it’s gonna be tabs.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,886

@1,373,876 (E)
StackOverflow has saved me more times than I can count, but I don't bother asking questions. I think their mods must have a competition to see how many threads they can mark [Closed as duplicate] [Off-topic] with a snarky closing comment.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,887

@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Tbh I think all the questions that can be asked have already been asked anyway.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 2 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,888

The poor site is dying anyway. Maybe if it were a little friendlier to newcomers, they wouldn't rush to AI.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 49 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,890

…they should really do something about the questions questions where the top voted answer is MD5 though.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,891

@1,373,888 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Tbh I try to avoid using ChatGPT.

(Edited 26 seconds later.)

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,895

@1,373,887 (E)
Yeah all the basic ones. Pretty much any question about programming fundamentals and the features & quirks of most languages. But there are plenty of emerging frameworks, new tools, Whatever.js 2.0, and so on.

Recently I was completely stumped by random behaviour from Helm (the Kubernetes package manager) that was completely undocumented. I only figured it out by painstakingly reading their shitty Go code; I felt like asking the question on SO myself just to be able to document the solution for future Googlers. Then I remembered how utterly toxic the community is. It doesn't help itself.

tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,897

@1,373,891 (E)
ChatGPT is still pretty shit for coding. Claude 4.0 is surprisingly decent although it suffers the same sort of issues.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 8 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,898

@1,373,895 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I feel like one of the most disappointing things about the internet is at least in America I feel like there’s an ideology that freedom will lead to the utopia. But it turns out when you give people freedom they just start acting like sociopaths over pointless things.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,899

@1,373,897 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I’d be fine with using an LLM for coding on the job. But if it’s anything I actually care about, I don’t trust those companies. Their entire business model is based on IP theft and it’s not even profitable.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,900

@previous (E)
Yeah my current company actually has a clause in my contract that I can't paste code into LLMs or use any AI-assisted IDE integrations or features. Makes sense. Any dev willingly sending their codebase to random AI companies is an idiot. Especially DeepSeek... Jesus wept.

tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 2 days ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,902

@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I also don't trust these companies' data retention policies. And even if I did, OpenAI for example is currently storing all deleted and temporary chats because of an ongoing lawsuit. I expect things like that will continue to happen in the future.

(Edited 16 seconds later.)

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,903

@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
They have an interesting definition of "deleted."

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,905

@1,373,898 (E)
> I feel like one of the most disappointing things about the internet is at least in America I feel like there’s an ideology that freedom will lead to the utopia.

Yeah it's about as logical as the American "arm good guys to stop bad guys" solution for gun violence. Arm teachers, arm students, arm everyone. An armed society is a polite society. More freedom, more guns, and everything will somehow work out. 🇺🇸

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 17 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,913

@1,373,898 (E)
Those things may seem pointless, but end up being vital to a thriving nation. Every 2% optimization in culture that is hard-fought in America multiplies with every other and it results in a system that is hegemonic and undefeatable.

Move to North Korea or the UK if you hate freedom so much.

(Edited 14 seconds later.)

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,914

@previous (G)
The fact you put the UK in the same sentence with North Korea just shows how brainwashed you are.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 27 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,915

@1,373,905 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
In the short run it seems wasteful and pointless, but in the long run you get people with a fine-tuned nervous system because that's all that's left. Then the rest of the world seems slow and inflexible because they've been sheltered by paternalistic governments.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,916

@previous (G)
Wait are you being sarcastic?

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 40 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,917

@1,373,914 (E)
If only I could pay a TV tax so that a media monopoly could tell me how to think properly!

Anonymous G double-posted this 2 days ago, 58 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,919

@1,373,916 (E)
Do you think the effects of evolution that exist everywhere on earth are suspended on American streets? The only difference is that America allows nature to take it's course and guide humanity toward more efficient and effective biological designs.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 18 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,920

@1,373,917 (G)
I’m sure the BBC has its issues but as far as media goes, it could be worse. It’s definitely a lot better than CGTN.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 44 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,922

@1,373,919 (G)
I can’t decide if you’re legitimately crazy or if you’re being sarcastic and this is the funniest thing ever.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,923

@1,373,902 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Punching physical keys over and over again to build a codebase is the same mindset that drives people to handmake clothes because of some abstract feeling of value that can't be put into words.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,924

@1,373,922 (E)
This board has some real nutjobs so it's hard to tell

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 47 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,925

@1,373,923 (G)
Value isn’t real, including the value of human life.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 17 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,926

@1,373,924 (H)
Ikr

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,927

@1,373,922 (E)
It comes off as crazy or sarcastic because it's not something you're familiar with, but where is the flaw in my view?

Anonymous H replied with this 2 days ago, 52 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,928

@1,373,847 (C)
The futurism sub reddits are fucking hilarious. Buncha nerds thinking they're super smart and worshiping technologies they don't understand.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,929

@1,373,927 (G)
It’s true that natural selection exists. It’s also true that if I care about myself, whether my life is beneficial to "evolution" is completely irrelevant to me. Someone might have better genetics than me, but if it’s between me and them, I don’t care about that.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 57 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,930

@1,373,920 (E)
Any Brit looking for cultural validation can compare themselves to the Chinese, but that's a low bar.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 6 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,931

A tiger might be inferior to me for example. The tiger doesn’t give a shit.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 10 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,932

@1,373,928 (H)
All the TESCREAL-type subreddits are the same.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 26 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,933

@1,373,929 (E)
Apathy is the antipode of greatness.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 0 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,934

@1,373,930 (G)
I’m talking about the Chinese government not Chinese culture. Chinese culture is amazing, don’t get it twisted.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 21 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,935

@previous (E)
Chinese culture led to the Chinese government, don't get that twisted.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 48 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,936

@previous (G)
Karl Marx was German.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 18 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,937

@1,373,932 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Let's take advice from someone running PHP on a homelab powered by steam.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 17 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,938

In Berlin they still have a Karl Marx street actually.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 40 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,939

@1,373,936 (E)
Legalism and Confucianism primed the country to adopt communism, the hegelian influences that created it in Germany would never allow it to take root in it's home country.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,940

@1,373,915 (G)
> In the short run it seems wasteful and pointless, but in the long run you get people with a fine-tuned nervous system because that's all that's left.
How long does the 'long run' take? I'm not sure it's working very well. Can we speed things up?

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 52 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,942

@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Yes, by gutting medicaid.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,943

@1,373,939 (G)
The Chinese government tries to use Confucianism to justify their governance, but they don’t actually live up to his standard for government. For example, China executes more people each year than any other country.

The Master said, "'If good men were to govern a country in succession for a hundred years, they would be able to transform the violently bad, and dispense with capital punishments.' True indeed is this saying!"


From the Analects by Confucius

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 49 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,944

Personally, I actually agree with Confucius on the death penalty.

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 days ago, 28 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,945

@1,373,937 (G)
It's actually a gerbil in a wheel.
But don't diss steam -- even nuclear power plants are just fancy steam engines. Steam gets shit done.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 40 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,946

@1,373,943 (E)
It doesn't matter if they lived up to it, the culture that preceded it allowed it to take over.

The cultures of western europe weren't the fertile soil it needed to destroy those countries.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,947

@previous (G)
The communist party took over during the Chinese civil war which happened at the same time as Japan’s imperial invasion of China, which happened because China had been weakened by western colonial powers. That doesn’t have anything to do with Confucius.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,948

@previous (E)
If they had embraced trade and Jesus they could have developed the maritime culture that would have allowed them to conquer the Japanese hundreds of years earlier.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 39 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,949

@previous (G)
Dude, you think China hasn’t embraced trade? They make literally everything!

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,950

@previous (E)
Their manufacturing base was the direct result of the influence of Hong Kong, before that they were trying to stop silk worms from leaving the country because it was all they had. They didn't even know how to utilize the gunpowder in fireworks.

(Edited 18 seconds later.)

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 6 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,951

I like Jesus and everything I think he had a good message, but like… Japan was not, is not, has never been a Christian nation. If you think Japan is so much better than China, it can’t be because of Christianity.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 35 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,952

@1,373,950 (G)
They invented gunpowder… I still can’t tell if you’re joking or not lol

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 37 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,953

@1,373,951 (E)
Japan had a Maritime culture for other reasons, and ultimately became an American vassal for their many other failing. My contention was that China had ample opportunity to conquer the dwarf, but rejected freedom, and freedom would have led them to trade and Jesus.

Anonymous G double-posted this 2 days ago, 25 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,954

@1,373,952 (E)
That's my point, they invented gunpowder and made fireworks. It was the west that utilized the same technology to colonize the planet.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 28 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,955

@1,373,953 (G)
People who like freedom tend to not conquer others because conquering others is fundamentally opposite of freedom. But go off.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 26 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,956

@1,373,954 (G)
China invented guns stupid.

Anonymous E triple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,957

@1,373,954 (G)

> That's my point, they invented gunpowder and made fireworks. It was the west that utilized the same technology to colonize the planet.

China had contact with East Africa before Europeans colonized Africa.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 14 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,958

@1,373,955 (E)
It sounds correct on the face of it, but free nations have supported other free nations in war, and even spread those ideals proactively. It's not the contradiction you imagine it to be.

@1,373,956 (E)
China had rudimentary guns and fireworks. Europe came, saw the technology, and invented usable firearms and rifling. Why didn't China colonize every corner of the globe? They had no idea what kind of head start they had, an accident they couldn't monetize.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 16 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,959

I’m also black so I don’t really consider enslaving my people to be evidence of the goodness of Europeans.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 47 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,960

@1,373,957 (E)
And where are their colonies? Baden-Powell did individually to influence east Africa than all of China.

Anonymous G double-posted this 2 days ago, 41 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,961

@1,373,959 (E)
Then you might need to brush up on more German philosophy, namely the idea of biased thinking in "slave morality".

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,962

@1,373,958 (G)
Maybe because colonizing other nations is evil? You mentioned Jesus. Jesus said it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven. If God created all humans in his image, do you think that God would support mistreating people to satisfy the sins of pride and greed?

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,964

@previous (E)
I'm not interested in your heretical mistranslation aimed at appeasing the slaves.

Europe improved the lives of the people with institutions that benefited all who lived there.

(Edited 34 seconds later.)

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 46 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,965

@previous (G)
I believe in God but I don’t think that you do.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,966

I’m a Catholic, Catholic means universal. The purpose of the Church isn’t to make one society superior to another, the purpose of the Church is to bring humanity closer to God. God isn’t the God of just Europe, God is the God of everyone. God created everything. The Bible doesn’t say that Africans and Europeans or Africans and Asians have a different origin, the Bible says we all come from one creator.

Anonymous E triple-posted this 2 days ago, 19 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,967

Anything else, any other belief that conflicts with that isn’t Christian and is an insult to Jesus.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 17 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,968

@1,373,965 (E)
I know that god exists, and that he looks favorably on the one nation that allows agency to exist.

Anonymous G double-posted this 2 days ago, 52 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,969

@1,373,966 (E)
If you believe people can be closer or farther away from god then you do acknowledge the existence of superior and inferior states.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 44 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,970

@1,373,968 (G)
The Untied States was founded by Freemasons. Being a Freemason can get you excommunicated from Catholic Church.

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 days ago, 29 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,971

The Catholic Church is the only church that was founded by Jesus. Every other church was founded by humans.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 48 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,972

@1,373,967 (E)
Your sockpuppets aren't sly Toby, and I wish you would take a look at how the people of Ulster have benefited from the civilizing projects Britain has brought to the land. It's the closest case where you can see how people have been pulled out of animalistic chaos, and brought a little closer to holiness.

Anonymous E replied with this 2 days ago, 42 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,973

@previous (G)
Something is wrong with you. You need a doctor to look at your brain or something.

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,974

@previous (E)
Jesus reaffirmed the proper order of man and woman laid out in the first testament, and he would not look warmly on someone who fornicated with another man, nor would he look warmly on that other man who idolizes marble statuettes of young boys.

(Edited 16 seconds later.)

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,975

@1,373,970 (E)

> The Untied States was founded by Freemasons. Being a Freemason can get you excommunicated from Catholic Church.

I remember that part of the Bible where God said you can say or do anything you want and still go to Heaven. Lol

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,976

@previous (I)
What translation do you use? I worry for the souls of everyone here.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,977

@previous (G)

> What translation do you use? I worry for the souls of everyone here.

Kjb

Anonymous G replied with this 2 days ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,978

@previous (J)
That's reassuring, it's the proper text unless you happen to know Greek.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,979

@1,373,976 (G)

> What translation do you use? I worry for the souls of everyone here.

Your worldview seems to be pretty much the exact opposite of Jesus. In the Bible, the Romans weren’t the good guys. By your logic that the imperialist European powers were the good guys in Africa, the Romans in Israel were doing the right thing and Jesus was doing the wrong thing. I think your views are rooted in narcissism more than in any kind of reverence for the divine.

Anonymous K double-posted this 2 days ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,981

In all honesty, the view that might makes right and the poor who suffered through the violence of imperialism deserved it because they were inferior sounds more like Satan than God to me, personally. What happened to loving your neighbor and caring for the sick and the hungry? Whatever belief you have it’s not Christianity, call it something else. Maybe Nazism.

Anonymous K triple-posted this 2 days ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,982

Before colonization, there were Muslims in sub Saharan Africa. Now I know Muslims aren’t Christian, but all Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet. If you’re enslaving and killing a bunch of people who believe in Jesus and saying you’re a Christian, something’s not right there.

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,983

@1,373,979 (K)
@1,373,981 (K)
@previous (K)
Spreading civilization is not narcissism. Indeed a healthier country will be "mightier" and have an easier time winning a war, but that is righteousness makes one mightier not that might makes right, you have it reversed.

Spreading Christianity is an act of charity, not malice.

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,986

@previous (G)
Europeans didn’t spread civilization. Africa was civilized for far longer than Europe was. Africans actually colonized parts of Europe before Europeans colonized Africa. Carthage was an African empire. An empire with a capital in Africa conquered European soil 2,000 years before Europeans colonized Africa. The pyramids in Egypt were already 2,000 years old when Rome was founded.

Anonymous L double-posted this 1 day ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,989

Wooly mammoths hadn’t even gone extinct on Wrangel Island in Russia yet when the pyramids were built. Do you even understand how fucking insane it is to say Europeans brought civilization to Africa?

(Edited 22 seconds later.)

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,991

@1,373,986 (L)
Carthage was a Phoenician colony, their culture originated from the Levant.

Anonymous L replied with this 1 day ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,992

@previous (G)
Carthage was a North African empire. It doesn’t matter if they had cultural borrowed from non-Africans, all humans came from Africa originally. Homo Sapiens are an African species of primate.

Anonymous L double-posted this 1 day ago, 54 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,993

@1,373,991 (G)
You know there’s an Egyptian obelisk in the middle of the Vatican in Rome right?

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 23 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,994

@1,373,989 (L)
I never said Africa lacked any civilization, my point is that you would have to go back thousands of years to find a time that they were the pinnacle of civilization, and that is because at the time few people even lived in Europe. Almost everyone lived in either Egypt or the fertile crescent at the time.

Anonymous L replied with this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,995

Before Homo Sapiens got there, Europe was populated with Neanderthals. If you removed all your African ancestors and were nothing but a European you wouldn’t be a Homo Sapiens, you’d be a Neanderthal, a different species. Africans are humans and humans are Africans.

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 34 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,996

@1,373,993 (L)
Yes, and that's one of many examples of how the Catholic church has adopted paganism.

Anonymous L replied with this 1 day ago, 31 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,997

@1,373,994 (G)
Europe didn’t "spread civilization" by killing and destroying civilizations all over the place and wiping out the native Americans with diseases you got from spending too much time around animals in unsanitary crowded cities.

Anonymous L double-posted this 1 day ago, 55 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,998

@1,373,996 (G)
Dude, you’re such an idiot. That Egyptian obelisk was brought to Rome by the Roman Emperor Nero before Europe was Christian because the plot of land the Vatican stands on used to be a stadium for racing horses.

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 21 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,999

@1,373,995 (L)
For the duration of this conversation I have tried to engage civilly and help inform people in this thread, but I am not going to continue any discussion where someone brings up vulgar subjects like Nederlanders.

Anonymous L replied with this 1 day ago, 13 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,000

It was an example of how African civilizations are older.

Anonymous L double-posted this 1 day ago, 37 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,001

@1,373,999 (G)
I’m black, you’re saying it’s a good thing Europeans enslaved my ancestors. You’re not being nice.

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,003

@previous (L)
Swapping sockpuppets and keeping the same pro-catholic textvoice isn't fooling anyone.

Anonymous L replied with this 1 day ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,005

@previous (G)
If you’ve convinced me of anything at all it’s that you’re a grandiose narcissist.

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 1 day ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,096

@1,373,933 (G)
What is a TESCREAL?

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 1 day ago, 13 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,097

@1,373,932 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Shit i meant to cite you

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 1 day ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,114

@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Transhumanism, Extropianism, Singularitarianism, Cosmism, Rationalism, Effective Altruism, and Longtermism!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL

The idea the ideologies are overlapping enough to be grouped together has plenty of pushback, but I think it holds (broadly) true.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous G replied with this 1 day ago, 42 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,121

@1,374,096 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I'm the only other one here that's not one of his sockpuppets.

Anonymous G double-posted this 1 day ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,374,122

@1,374,114 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
This, but on a civilization scale.
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