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Topic: How do religious people reconcile...

Anonymous A started this discussion 3 days ago #127,062

Their belief that everyone should be "saved" and the fact that the vast majority of humans were born before the year 0?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,373,478

"I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob" - Matthew 22:31‭-‬32.

Bless you for the question, friend!

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,479

If you carefully read the Apostles Creed, you will notice that "he descended into Hell" and during the 3 days that he was dead, he was ministering to the ones who were in Hell.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 47 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,484

Pick which flavor of protestantism and you'll get different answers. My flavor leaned into 'you're thinking in human terms Anon A, God transcends time.'
It sounds a little reddit-atheist, but once someone broke down the infinite punishment for finite crime, and saving us from himself, the entire process only works if you get swept up in the frenzy, keep singing those hymns, and absorb the cadence of the whole show rather than the actual content itself.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 18 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,487

@previous (D)

I always find it peculiar that people who choose to go to hell complain that it's a "punishment".

Anonymous D replied with this 3 days ago, 22 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,493

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I don't even play on that court. If this is all bunk then there is no hell/devil/torment. But if I did humor them, yes, eternal separation from the smite monster isn't punishment.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 43 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,498

@previous (D)

So what are you complaining about?

Anonymous D replied with this 3 days ago, 24 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,504

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I need to make a channel and get some eyeballs, I've got a few gripes.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 36 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,506

Skill issue on their part.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,509

Maybe the answers you seek rests in the secular knowledge first.
See: Psychology.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 5 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,581

@OP

> Their belief that everyone should be "saved" and the fact that the vast majority of humans were born before the year 0?

As a Catholic, my answer is I very much do not care.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 4 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,641

I’ve always wondered about the idea of Heaven. Isn’t it just a form of Hell if a bunch of your loved ones don’t make it to Heaven? You spend eternity anxious and tortured because your spouse or kid is spending the same time boiling in a pit of mucous.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 days ago, 13 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,646

@previous (I)

Which is more likely?

1. Humans invented the idea of heaven and hell in order to coerce people to do or not do certain things

2. The creator of this universe created a spirit for each human born, and if the human didn't believe in the creator they'd send the spirit to the bad afterlife rather than the good afterlife. The afterlife versions last forever.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 3 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,693

@previous (A)
Option 1 has a 16.2% chance of being true

Option 2 has an 83.8% chance of being true

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 days ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,740

@1,373,641 (I)

No, it's impossible to feel negative emotion.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 40 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,741

@1,373,693 (J)

> Option 1 has a 16.2% chance of being true
>
> Option 2 has an 83.8% chance of being true

Please show your calculations

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 days ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,743

@previous (K)

100-83.8=16.2

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 days ago, 45 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,745

@1,373,740 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> No, it's impossible to feel negative emotion.

One of my flock asked me the other day, "Father, what happens if someone boots you in the nuts in Heaven? Does it hurt? And if yes, how can it be Heaven?"

I told him that no, taking a boot to the nuts in Heaven would not hurt because there is no pain in paradise.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 days ago, 32 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,749

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

I believe heaven is more metaphysical than how it's usually portrayed in pop culture. In Buddhism they have the notion of a giant well of life force from which all souls emanate and to which all souls return, to be subsumed into the greater source. A very inspirational description of the afterlife.

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,841

Religion is a great racket. Sure, there’s aid and comfort. Early on, the first shamans realized they had a better gig than warriors or farmers, and that they could dazzle chieftains and kings. It’s a casino that can’t lose: If you die from disease, it’s His plan or your faith was wanting. If you live, it’s His plan and your faith was strong. Now where can I give 10% of my income to endorse a particular fairy tale?

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,858

@previous (M)
The IRS.

"All men are created equal" is a fairy tale if you think about it. Some people are born with birth defects.


This is supposed to be a joke I’m not actually evil.

Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 2 days ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,873

I’m 14 and this is deep.
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